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Old 03-16-2018, 03:44 AM
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Default Is a 3 inch bumper exit exhaust restrictive ? T4 S480

I’m going to run a full exhaust with my bw s480 but I’d like to run a short 3 inch down pipe dumped up front at the bumper. I plan on using an electric cutout or loud valve. The dumped pipe wouldn’t be much longer then 2-2.5 feet
Am I leaving a bunch of Hp on the table by doing it this way ?

My other option is to run a 4inch dumped down pipe up front and run a 3 inch Y off it to my back bumper.
If possible I’d like to stick with my first plan with the 3 inch dump upfront.

How long can I expect the electric cutout to live that close to a turbo ?

Id like to hear what you guys have to say. I’m trying to get away from running a full 4 inch exhaust to keep my ground clearance decent. It’s a street car that might make it to the track
a couple times a year at most

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3" dump will support ~900 HP. The good thing about a cutout is that the exhaust isn't redirected. You will have the 3" dump PLUS the rest of your exhaust.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
3" dump will support ~900 HP. The good thing about a cutout is that the exhaust isn't redirected. You will have the 3" dump PLUS the rest of your exhaust.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I didn't think of it that way. Will it matter the exhaust is coming out just one 3 inch pipe for a 12-18 inches.
Can that little section cause too much back pressure ? Maybe Ill come off the turbo with a 4 inch pipe and Y to the cat-back while its still 4 inch and neck it down to 3 and dump it.
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Im doing the 4 inch fender exit with a loud valve and 3 inch to the back. I think its the best for power and street manners. Plus it really isnt that much more work.
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If you have a 3-4" dump... What is the point of running 3" to the back? Run come crush bent crap 2.5" with a decent OEM style muffler so it's actually quiet (and cheap).
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
If you have a 3-4" dump... What is the point of running 3" to the back? Run come crush bent crap 2.5" with a decent OEM style muffler so it's actually quiet (and cheap).
I already have a quality 3 inch system on it now going to all the way trip the rails pipes.
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Ah, gotcha.

Sounds like a sellable item… not to mention extra weight! Have a cheap exhaust shop install a single 2.25” crush bent quickie to the back with a Cadalliac muffler and you get the best of both worlds with a cutout!

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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Ah, gotcha.

Sounds like a sellable item… not to mention extra weight! Have a cheap exhaust shop install a single 2.25” crush bent quickie to the back with a Cadalliac muffler and you get the best of both worlds with a cutout!
Ya but I love my SLP Quad Tip CME exhaust and the car is pretty quiet already.
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Im in the same boat. Already have the 3 inch set up on the car. Why get rid of it. Mine sounds good and on low boost should be plenty then when i decide to go to kill open the cutouts and race exhaust.
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That S480 is a pretty big muffler I'd say just run it out the fender all the time

Forcefed's idea seems the best to me for what you're trying to do that'd make it almost silent until you cracked into boost
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i would come off the turbo with 4" then split it to 2 3" should be more then enough but i wouldnt do 3" right off the turbo
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It seems the closer to the turbo the cutout is the shorter its life span.
Mine is located under the driver floor board near my feet with a front mount setup and has been in operation for over two years.
It seems like guys only get six months or so out of them when they're mounted close to the turbo.
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Originally Posted by ls3fox
i would come off the turbo with 4" then split it to 2 3" should be more then enough but i wouldnt do 3" right off the turbo
Anyone sell a nice 4 in and Dual 3 out Y. Im going to look into trying that.
Thanks.
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i'm looking at a similar set up for my switch to a billet 80

howe makes a y pipe pn H4022

i'll probably fab mine since i like that kinda stuff
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
That S480 is a pretty big muffler I'd say just run it out the fender all the time

Forcefed's idea seems the best to me for what you're trying to do that'd make it almost silent until you cracked into boost
I am curious about how loud and how quiet some are. I have heard some that seem pretty quiet, but my buddy just got his 6.0/475 running with a 4" downpipe, and its just freakin' loud. He was hoping to run just a downpipe, but thats clearly not going to happen now. Its almost if not as loud as his small block was with 3" exhaust. Do the wheels/ a/r have anything to do with how much they cut sound down?
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Originally Posted by rpturbo
I am curious about how loud and how quiet some are. I have heard some that seem pretty quiet, but my buddy just got his 6.0/475 running with a 4" downpipe, and its just freakin' loud. He was hoping to run just a downpipe, but thats clearly not going to happen now. Its almost if not as loud as his small block was with 3" exhaust. Do the wheels/ a/r have anything to do with how much they cut sound down?
I think the camshaft has a lot to do with how loud the car is. The milder the cam the quieter it's.
I've got a big old dirty cam and I live in Canada. So I have to run a full exhaust We can't get away with the stuff u guys can. I've never seen are car in Canada driving around with a bumper or fender exhaust.
We wouldn't make it across town without getting yanked
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Not the same setup but a 5.3, ported heads, 218/228 custom blower cam (Engine had a centri) and it had 1 7/8 into 3” LT headers into a 4” merge necked down into a 3” Summit catback with a dynomax ultraflow SS muffler. Car was decently loud on the street and prob alittle too much for me.

same everything but took the supercharger off and added a CX single turbo kit 76/65 turbo single dumping into the same 3” catback with a 3” resonator where the merge was. Car is stupid quiet and sound gets alittle louder on the throttle. My WG dumps to atmosphere but have only need up to 6psi so it hasn’t opened (12psi spring). I like it a lot more than the supercharger as just cruising around the car is more enjoyable. I can get on it alittle more and more often without bringing any attention to myself. I put a dump on it but removed it before starting it with the turbo as I was worried about noise/leaks and rattling. Mines a street car so I won’t be in boost enough to warrant it and I’m not looking for every available HP.

Ive heard dumps before and they are quite loud even when the turbo is a muffler. I’m thinking I might need to put a muffler on the WG dump when I eventually hear it so t doesn’t scare the **** out of me.
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Not the same setup but a 5.3, ported heads, 218/228 custom blower cam (Engine had a centri) and it had 1 7/8 into 3” LT headers into a 4” merge necked down into a 3” Summit catback with a dynomax ultraflow SS muffler. Car was decently loud on the street and prob alittle too much for me.

same everything but took the supercharger off and added a CX single turbo kit 76/65 turbo single dumping into the same 3” catback with a 3” resonator where the merge was. Car is stupid quiet and sound gets alittle louder on the throttle. My WG dumps to atmosphere but have only need up to 6psi so it hasn’t opened (12psi spring). I like it a lot more than the supercharger as just cruising around the car is more enjoyable. I can get on it alittle more and more often without bringing any attention to myself. I put a dump on it but removed it before starting it with the turbo as I was worried about noise/leaks and rattling. Mines a street car so I won’t be in boost enough to warrant it and I’m not looking for every available HP.

Ive heard dumps before and they are quite loud even when the turbo is a muffler. I’m thinking I might need to put a muffler on the WG dump when I eventually hear it so t doesn’t scare the **** out of me.
Ya those Waste gates dumped can be pretty darn loud. Mine scares the crap out of my kids when the gate opens. Ill probably have it plumbed into the exhaust this time around. Sometimes its nice to go fast without sounding like hells gates are opening
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On a 5.3 running 14 lbs, S369 turbo, 3.5 downpipe to muffler then 3" to the rear bumper, I opened a 3" cut out at the end of the downpipe and the truck made 5lbs more boost and 100 more hp on my dyno, (Dj).

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damn. thats some gains



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