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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Okay I got a 350 4 bolt main block, victor jr intake, and 18* steel race heads and a 750 carb. Now i dont know which way to go...... 358ci or 383 stroker! what do yall think I should do. Like anyone else I want monster power.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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If all the parts are going to be new go stroker. Not that much more when compared "new" to "new".
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Just curious, who's the manufacture of the heads? I didn't know anyone was making an 18* iron head.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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they were off our super late model racecar. the cam went on the motor and broke a lot of mess inside but the heads intake and carb were still good. the motor was a 358ci and dynoed at 580hp. But the answer to your question was that they are GM Performance racing heads it was the spec head we were allowed to run. i will get the part number when I get home later.
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Another vote to go 383. I've had four 350 engines, and after my first (and current) 383, I'd never go back. Not much $$$ difference if new stuff, and you'll love the extra power and torque!

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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how much power are you making in your 383? what internals are you running?
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Originally Posted by raceking33
how much power are you making in your 383? what internals are you running?
Currently making 370 rwhp through a loose 3800 stall 10" convertor and TH400 trans, so I figure that's about 475 hp at the flywheel.

I'm running Eagle internals in the current one with their cast crank and SIR rods (both are about $250-275 each) and they are rated to 500 ponies.
Next bullet will have Eagle forged internals rated to 1000 ponies with a forged crank and set of H-beam rods, but they are double the cost. Actually a kit with rods, crank, SRP forged pistons and rings costs about $1700 through most speed places.

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475 without spray? I was looking at t-56 trannys cuz my car now is already a 5 spd so it will just be an easier swap. O yeah and the funn factor goes up with a 6 speed. but also yeah all new parts either way i go the only used parts will be the heads, carb. and victor jr intake.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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okay buddy here is the details on the heads I have......
10134392 Phase 2 Cast Iron Bow Tie Head
The Phase 2 Bow Tie cylinder head (casting P/N 14011034) has the highest performance potential of any cast iron Chevrolet head. It is intended for off-highway applications only. Although the Phase 2 cast iron Bow Tie cylinder head has the same casting number (14011034) as the Phase 1 head it replaced, there are several significant differences between these two heavy-duty cylinder heads. The Phase 2 cast iron Bow Tie head can be identified by its redesigned outer water jacket wall with a machined bar between the exhaust manifold flanges. (Phase 1 castings have a raised parting line between the exhaust manifold flanges.) The area around the tapped water temperature sensor hole is also machined flat on the Phase 2 head. The Phase 2 Bow Tie head has a revised combustion chamber design with a true volume of 64cc's. The quench areas beneath the spark plugs are filled to increase compression in competition engines. The intake valve seats are machined for 2.02" diameter valves; the induction hardened exhaust valve seats are finished for 1.60" diameter valves. The intake and exhaust ports are identical in Phase 1 and Phase 2 cast iron Bow Tie heads. The 184cc intake runners will satisfy the airflow requirements of most competition engines while enhancing throttle response and mid-range torque. In unmodified form, the Phase 2 Bow Tie head will flow more air than any production cast iron small-block head. Extra-thick wall sections allow the ports to be enlarged to increase their flow capacity. The manifold heat riser passages are deleted in Phase 2 Bow Tie heads to produce a cool, dense intake charge.
Technical Notes: The valve spring pockets in cast iron Bow Tie heads are machined for up to 1.50" diameter competition valve springs. The rocker stud bosses are tapped for screw-in studs; studs and pushrod guideplates are not included. Use GM Performance Parts studs P/N 3973416 (3/8") or P/N 3921912 (7/16") and hardened pushrod guideplates P/N 3973418. Use 5/8" hex-head spark plugs with tapered seats and 3/8" reach. A bare casting weighs approximately 42 pounds. Valve seats are heat-treated.
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