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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Alright, this is my first time posting on this site, so hopefully everything will go smooth. Anyways, my turning 18 this summer, and starting a build on what i want to be a 427 small block. I have some things in mind, and hopefully will either by right, or could use some guiding.
First, what i want this to be is a streetable, but somewhat wild small block. Im looking for a low compression, possibly blower and/or nitrous later on, and pump gas. Making hopefully 550+ HP.
As of now, i own a 69 camaro with a 350. I'll be taking it out, and replacing it with a Dart aftermarket block bored 4.185 and stroked 3.875. Id imagine id probaly use JE pistons with forged aluminum, and a scat forged aluminum crank. The heads and and cam is where im not positive on where to go. Im thinking AFR 210cc's with a Cam along the lines of 240-250. Any have any better idea's/advice?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Yes....But its a forged STEEL crank and I would use the AFR 227cc on an engine that large. and a roller cam in that range with lotsa lift will be in order.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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I've got a great cam/lifter set-up brand new in the box that's pretty wild! $175 if interested.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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if its that .525" lift solid flat tappet?, then it aint right for this build....NOT EVEN CLOSE! It will need another .100" of lift.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Yea, 550 HP isnt exactly asking for a easy "low compression" motor, need to go blown dish pistons or back compression off a bit to use nitrous easier, or go high compression all motor.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by moge11
if its that .525" lift solid flat tappet?, then it aint right for this build....NOT EVEN CLOSE! It will need another .100" of lift.

Your correct if the pistons are relieved for it....
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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i agree with the afr 227 runner heads. i had a solid roller 259/267 @ .050 .638/.638 lift cam in my 11:5-11:7 scr 406 that ran great,in a 427 it would have been really sweet.
with those afrs and a cam anywhere near that size you should be able to get 550-600 hp with the right intake also.i used a victor jr but a super victor may have been alittle better.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Alright thanks. I was originally thinking the 227's, but were afraid they would be to big. Appreciate the feed back on that As for the low compression, im almost positive i'll go with Dish Pistons. Now any suggestions for the Cam?
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Here's a little bigger small block we did this spring that runs mid 9's:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1967372
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My last other concern is any ever used the 427 SBC by Worlds products. They build a crate motor which i beleive comes with a prepped block. Im looking into it, and also they're short block low compression. Wondering if anyone has any works with either MoTown or World Products?
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Originally Posted by FeaRJN
My last other concern is any ever used the 427 SBC by Worlds products. They build a crate motor which i beleive comes with a prepped block. Im looking into it, and also they're short block low compression. Wondering if anyone has any works with either MoTown or World Products?
Both are good, but if you want the absolute best go to: www.ReherMorrison.com We can sell you theirs, none better.
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I just finished up a 427 that used a dart block,brodix track 1 cnc ported heads,made 675 hp on pump gas.built a couple of race 427's that made over 800hp.And you will def need a big head to feed that thing.I would not reccomend boring the block to the 4.185 though.The extra cubes arent worth the life you lose from the block,if you keep the 4.125 bore you can still bore the thing several times before it totally worn out.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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What was you're stroke on it? The site recommends only a maximum of 3.875 but ive heard of plenty going to 4.000. The only problem with that is getting the block prepped, and the price of it.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
I just finished up a 427 that used a dart block,brodix track 1 cnc ported heads,made 675 hp on pump gas.built a couple of race 427's that made over 800hp.And you will def need a big head to feed that thing.I would not reccomend boring the block to the 4.185 though.The extra cubes arent worth the life you lose from the block,if you keep the 4.125 bore you can still bore the thing several times before it totally worn out.
Thats what he needs!! You will be far better off to let a good shop build the whole motor so you get every component complimenting every other. It's critical to have it all come together properly.
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Well, i mean, whats the price difference of a shop. I honestly would like to get the experience of building my own motor too. Also like i said, MoTown makes already built 427 small block.
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4'' stroke 4.125 bore.the problem with going to a 4'' stroke is that you cant go forced induction with it.usually end up with a 1.00'' pistons unless you use a tall deck block.the other things is that you need a small base circle cam.
If your looking a getting a crate engine i strongly suggest not to-not that they are not good engines its just that i size doesnt fit all.for the same money you can get a custom built engine just for you.I like to match everything to what the customer wants.Everything is a factor when building an engine-what your doing with it,what kind of vehicle,weight of vehicle,manual or auto trans,all of this makes a difference in the engine as far as camshaft selection-cyl head size-etc.If you want to build the engine yourself,that fine as well but hook up with a good shop that can help you out with parts selection to get you a good combo of parts-not just a bunch of parts that dont work well together
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That would make plenty of sense. I understand that easily.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
4'' stroke 4.125 bore.the problem with going to a 4'' stroke is that you cant go forced induction with it.usually end up with a 1.00'' pistons unless you use a tall deck block.the other things is that you need a small base circle cam.
If your looking a getting a crate engine i strongly suggest not to-not that they are not good engines its just that i size doesnt fit all.for the same money you can get a custom built engine just for you.I like to match everything to what the customer wants.Everything is a factor when building an engine-what your doing with it,what kind of vehicle,weight of vehicle,manual or auto trans,all of this makes a difference in the engine as far as camshaft selection-cyl head size-etc.If you want to build the engine yourself,that fine as well but hook up with a good shop that can help you out with parts selection to get you a good combo of parts-not just a bunch of parts that dont work well together

Very well put. We have seen far to many people spend a small fortune w/mismatched parts & end up w/a mess.
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