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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Ok my friend just got 10 stacks from an inheritance, and he is dead set on a NA 350, for some reason he doesnt want to uses a big block, we're aiming for max power and torque before 6500prm. We want to build something with crazy amounts of hp and torque. What would be the BEST setup? Also the block is not included in the price cause we have one ready to go.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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If it's a stock block, sell it & get a big bore block. 434" type motor will give the most torque.
With the big bore block you get the best of both worlds. New crank, rods, springs, lifters, cam for sure.
Heads you can get used, if you know where they are coming from. Just my thoughts, good luck.

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Add a couple of more Gs for the 454 motown small block. 600 HP, pump gas. What else could you ask for?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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6.0 lsx with t76 and th400

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 01:56 AM
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get a small block 350 stock block carbed and a gt67 turbo and call a day
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Actually, if boost was a route, get a short block 434, god heads like brodix IK200s, boost the hell out of it.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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**** it
dart big block, big chiefs and twin s475's
or dart block with sb2's and twin t76's
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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Here is the cheapst way I would buy some HP.And I have looked at it I spent more money putting my last motor together than I could have bought it assy.http://www.shafiroff.com/sportsman/540_825.asp
Shafiroff Chevrolet Drag Racing Engines and Ultrastreet High Performance Crate Engines
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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get an iron block 6.0 and stroke it to a 40Xci..... get some AFR heads from advanced induction along with a cam that is matched for your goals for the car..... if you build the right stroker LSX motor you can have 500+rwhp NA and ber very reliable if set up right!

or get a 350 4 bolt block from a GM company and get a good hydro or solid roller setup with some nice AFR or dart pro 1 heads and have advanced inductions work them as well..... get a victor jr or dart single plane intake along with a 383 stroker forged eagle/JE setup and have it balanced..... get a good engine builder to assemble it and be on your way!

those are 2 good ways to go about getting "pleasing" power from a GM small block NA!
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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heres one for 11k

http://www.dougherbert.com/434sports...th=614_616_754

or if you want to put a little more cash at it

http://www.dougherbert.com/468megasm...th=614_616_754
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Tell him that you know deep down inside, he wants to build a big block.


If I had 10,000 to spend on an engine alone, I would build a nasty big block on a 300 shot.
The combo would be:

Iron block
Iron heads
Single plane intake
950 carb
Forged internals
2 stage plate kit spraying 150 out of the hole, and another 150 after the 60 ft.
Big solid roller cam and supporting valvetrain.

Just my opinion.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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i have spend more money building it piece by piece and i wasn't happy in the end. i would recomend this 2 engine builder or let them know u only have under ten thounsand $$$$ budget, i know they can work something out. two of my favorite motor parts.

http://www.shafiroff.com/sportsman/540_825.asp
http://www.dougherbert.com/434sports...th=614_616_754
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Toss the 350 and get an after market block from one of the above outfits. If your budget was a 1/3 of what is it might make sense to keep it but 10 g's can buy a much better foundtion than a stock 350.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Well not sure on how many cubes you want but I'm either going with a 406ci or 434ci,
but for a street warrior I most diff would go with a 406ci roughly 525hp and peak torq of 550 at 4500rpm on pump gas

I'm going with these guyz, all forged shortblocks under $4500.00
http://www.coasthigh.com/

And just get some of these heads http://www.dartheads.com/products/he...cnc-heads.html
GOOD LUCK

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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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6.o truck motor [very cheap to find] add forged rods,pistons,f.a.s.t intake, 60lb motron injectors, stock ecu, borg warner s480 turbo[500$] front mount intercooler,and razors alky system and you should fly!! friend put one in his 87 grand national on 18lbs boost, pump gas and alky ran a 9.42 @145mph!!
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Tell him to get a 540 BBC. Dart block, pro 1 heads and a good cam...good for 700FWHP
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Try this one at http://www.summitracing.com


World Products 108050

CHEVROLET
Engine Type V8
CID 540
Liter 8.8
Engine Size 8.8L/540
Engine Family Chevy big block Mark IV
Fuel Delivery Carburetor

Plug one in and fly.
Wanna make your ride fly? Just plug in one of World Products' 540 c.i.d., 580 hp Merlin crate engines. These Chevrolet ground-pounders really crank out the torque--625 ft.-lbs. of it, in fact. That's more than enough to make the competition get small in your rearview mirrors. World builds these engines around their 4-bolt-main Merlin III cast-iron block, to which they add a 4130 forged-steel crankshaft (4.250 in. stroke), 9.5:1 forged-aluminum pistons (4.500 in. bore) with 4340 forged-steel I-beam connecting rods. Next up are Merlin rectangular-port cast iron heads with Manley stainless steel valves, plus a Merlin 360 degree, single-plane aluminum intake manifold, and a Hardcore-modified 870 cfm Holley 4-barrel. The valvetrain features a high-performance cam, aluminum roller rockers, hydraulic lifters, 4130 pushrods, and a true roller timing set. Ignition components include an HEI distributor, 8mm plug wires, and Accel spark plugs. All engines are assembled with Clevite bearings and top-quality assembly components from Fel-Pro, ARP, and Manley. They are internally balanced and come with a Hardcore CNC-machined harmonic balancer. Each engine is carefully broken-in, and then run on the dynamometer to certify that performance levels meet or exceed published specifications.
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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had a buddy do a forged 408 in a 00 frc vette. with aft 225's, mid 240's cam, fast 90/90, car made 550 wheel and was capable of taking a big shot of spray. right around 10-12k start to finish
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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its an old thread that wa sbrought up, but put the cash in an ira and mutual funds. but since its an old thread, the cash has probly already been spent on beer and hookers.
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ive got a dart block 406 ci ,4340 crank h beam rods je nitrous piston with ported dart heads. solid roller and streetable... its been in the 8s in a light car with spray .. im lookin to sell it for 5k.
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