Thunder Racing or Futral
10-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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It must have been our 3 year tune!!!! After 3 years BOOM!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
10-14-2010, 07:30 AM
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Maybe so but......(And I was going to stay out of this) Once upon a time....there was this little prince who worked at avondale, and he wanted to go 408 in his white camaro SS. With some help from myself and his wallet, his wish cam true...even better with the NX shark nozzle jetted @ 125hp. He was happy until he saw low 10sec e/t slips and, like all of us, wanted to go 9s. He brought the car to FMS for plumbing/install of the direct-port nitrous as well as final tuning. The prince (not questioning the tuner) watches as his call is pulled on the dyno several times and was told it was *RICH*.......the car was removed from the dyno and THEN #24 fuel jets were replaced with #20 fuel jets...NO N2O jet change and NO re-dyno.
Can any of u kids guess what happened when they sent him off to the track? I can tell u it got ugly because the car came back to the builder. When the prince saw his spark plugs he became just another frog. It did not help matters when the plugs were replaced and it went over a second slower N/A.
The story u just read is true, the names have been changed to protect Mark (
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I am not usually a nut-swinger, but when in need of the dyno I aim my rope at Geoffs' fly................
Can any of u kids guess what happened when they sent him off to the track? I can tell u it got ugly because the car came back to the builder. When the prince saw his spark plugs he became just another frog. It did not help matters when the plugs were replaced and it went over a second slower N/A.
The story u just read is true, the names have been changed to protect Mark (
)I am not usually a nut-swinger, but when in need of the dyno I aim my rope at Geoffs' fly................
10-14-2010, 01:43 PM
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my 2 cents most of you guys leave geoff and allen to go and **** with your car just because someone tells you it shouldn't surge or sound a certain way. i have personal experience with both. if you want a car that hauls ***, go to allen. if you want a conservative tune that you can tip around and brag about how fast you should run, go to geoff. it don't matter who we take most our setups to. if your ***** not build right, it's going to let go anyway. allen has tuned redell, nathan, rowe and my car(corey). these are just some of the cars that everyone knows that haulass. not one of these cars have blown and there well respected when they come on tha scene. not going to put geoff on blast, but he didn't wanna tune my car because of my motor being 13.5 compression and a high volume of nitrous. allen had no problem. allen tuned the car with 13.5 compression and a 400 jet. its easy to dyno and tell what the car puts to tha rear wheels, what it will put to tha pavement is tha real power. allen has come to tha track numerous times to make adjustments to my car. i haven't seen geoff at a track since tha thunder shootouts. and to travis, before you get off your knees in geoffs office. look up at him and say. daddy, who car faster? coreys or mine!!!!!!
10-14-2010, 03:34 PM
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most of you guys leave geoff and allen to go and **** with your car just because someone tells you it shouldn't surge or sound a certain way. i have personal experience with both. if you want a car that hauls ***, go to allen. if you want a conservative tune that you can tip around and brag about how fast you should run, go to geoff. it don't matter who we take most our setups to. if your ***** not build right, it's going to let go anyway. allen has tuned redell, nathan, rowe and my car(corey). these are just some of the cars that everyone knows that haulass. not one of these cars have blown and there well respected when they come on tha scene. not going to put geoff on blast, but he didn't wanna tune my car because of my motor being 13.5 compression and a high volume of nitrous. allen had no problem. allen tuned the car with 13.5 compression and a 400 jet. its easy to dyno and tell what the car puts to tha rear wheels, what it will put to tha pavement is tha real power. allen has come to tha track numerous times to make adjustments to my car. i haven't seen geoff at a track since tha thunder shootouts. and to travis, before you get off your knees in geoffs office. look up at him and say. daddy, who car faster? coreys or mine!!!!!!
10-14-2010, 04:15 PM
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Question to Charley at FMS: Ask Allen how would you tune a stock bottom end car with H/C to run good N/A and make the pcm demand more fuel when the 175 shot dry is kicked in?
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
10-14-2010, 04:37 PM
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Question to Charley at FMS: Ask Allen how would you tune a stock bottom end car with H/C to run good N/A and make the pcm demand more fuel when the 175 shot dry is kicked in?
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
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10-14-2010, 06:24 PM
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Question to Charley at FMS: Ask Allen how would you tune a stock bottom end car with H/C to run good N/A and make the pcm demand more fuel when the 175 shot dry is kicked in?
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
I believe both guys are good tuners it just matters what kind of experience you have had with either Allan or Geoff. They both have different tuning styles and get close to the same result when you go down the track. I have seen cars go to Futral and come out running like a raped ape and some that run like a turd and won't even start up like an EFI car should. The way Allan handles the people whose cars don't run correctly when they leave him will show the character of him. Good customer service will ALWAYS bring repeat business.
I have seen cars from Geoff also that run like crap at the track just like some Futral cars but it is because of the selection of parts used in that person's build. I have called Futral many times and never got an answer, the phone just rang. I have called Geoff and he has answered the phone. That is my only complaint of Allan though.
I like Allan and Geoff both, but I prefer a conservative tune so you know where my money is going.
10-14-2010, 07:20 PM
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You need to re-edit your post again. "when you wanna sit on the porch, holla at Allen". Thats exactly the case.
I want a car to do it all. I want it to idle my big 110 lsa cam when coming to a stop at a redlight and after doing a burnout. I want it to start at the turn of the key not start like a carb car that has been sitting for a month and never started. I want to street drive in bumper to bumper traffic and not have the car cut-off everytime I stop. I know Allen can do it, but making him do it is another story.
You can take that 9.24@149 on a 1.40 at smoke it. Junk has you beat 9.0 with a 1.38 with a street driven pump gas car, not 13.5:1. Take the car to California and back and still run a 9.0. You are right though we can talk about this for days.
