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Old 05-06-2005, 01:20 AM
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I was looking on ebay and they have both a Dale Ernhardt edition and a Berger edition on there i was wondering which one is rarer and which do you guys think is a bigger potential for a collector car?

Also how rare is the Black bird ive only seen maybe one or two on ebay.

I guess this is Pretty rare Berger



Dale Ernhardt
Old 05-06-2005, 09:06 AM
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The Intimidator SS, is rarer, only built for 1 maybe 2 years. A handful were signed by Dale Sr. before his untimely passing.

Berger SS's are unique. There are a total of 100 production cars, built over 3 years.
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how many Dale sr. were there made i think it said only 83 were made?
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According to the Camaro White Book - 2003 Edition.........

Berger SS:
2000 = 31
2001 = 28
2002 = 45

Intimidator SS:
2001 = 84
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by price looks like the berger
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you also have to look at the stages of the cars...
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Please... Earnhardt

I'd say the Berger is definately more rare but they're still both pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by NC Guy
According to the Camaro White Book - 2003 Edition.........

Berger SS:
2000 = 31
2001 = 28
2002 = 45

Intimidator SS:
2001 = 84
Actually Craig, I gotta jab ya on this one . According to the Camaro White Book - 2003 Edition, and I quote

Two prototypes and 83 numbered cars were built (car #13 was not built)
Doesn't add up to the 84 that they show above this in the White Book for the total amount does it?

Maybe we should teach the White Book how to add?
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You're right J.D., it doesn't add up to 84 and I noted that the first time I saw those numbers. My guess is that since the 2 prototypes were not offered for sale to the public, they were not included in the production count. Last I heard, the 00 proto was with Dale Jr. Don't know about the other.

As for the #13 car.....OH BOY.....thats' opening a real can of worms! Some say it was built, others say no. Some say it was built as a convertible, others say if it was - it was destroyed. I ain't getting into that controversy on this public forum.

Enjoy that ZL1.
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oh man I hope someday i can afford an Intimidator SS. They are one of my top 2 fav camaros.

Brad
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Originally Posted by Diolar Magnum
oh man I hope someday i can afford an Intimidator SS. They are one of my top 2 fav camaros.

Brad
Some are offered 'for sale' from time to time. Understand though that there are lots of clones/fakes out there. Do your home work first if you're looking to buy.
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There has always been contention as to "if" the Prototypes were or were not part of the "production numbered" cars.

Reason why I say that is there are only "100" production "numbered" Berger SS's. Now I know of "1" extra 2002 that Matt Berger had made that is not numbered . . So the White Book says there are 104 Berger SS's . . 100 produced, 3 Prototypes and Matt's 2002 = 104 . . . ?

So for the Intimidator's are there 83, produced and 1 Prototype?
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Two proto Intimidators that I know of. One is a 2000, the other a 2001. To my knowledge, neither are numbered. Highest number in my registry so far is car #55.

How many numbered cars were actually built? Seems only a few people know and they ain't talking for whatever reason.


TO EVERYONE: Please let me know of any Intimidators that you know of. I'd like to include them on the registry which is strictly confidential any only shared with other owners.

Thanks for any help folks.
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Originally Posted by Diolar Magnum
oh man I hope someday i can afford an Intimidator SS. They are one of my top 2 fav camaros.

Brad
ill take a 68/69 yenko camaro over these cars any day of the weekmuch, much harder to find and pay for but they are the originals
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or a COPO
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Originally Posted by 8KickassRS9
ill take a 68/69 yenko camaro over these cars any day of the weekmuch, much harder to find and pay for but they are the originals
What makes you think my Intimidator is not '" original "?

BTW, check my sig ....!....!....!....!....! I also own a hard to find all original Van Nuys built 68 Rally Sport Z28. I know a little something about desirable first generation Camaros.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix57
or a COPO
Love em.................how many do you own....?
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i have 2







1/24 models
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Originally Posted by Phoenix57
i have 2







1/24 models

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I would buy the Ernhardt before a Berger, just because of the man himself. But if I had my ultimate choice in cars it would be a ZL1, any year, any color, any stage.


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