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Old 12-13-2007, 04:30 PM
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Hello everyone, I need some advice. We are thinking of upgrading one of my GMMG cars to either the Phase IIX or the 475 package. One of my concerns is the driveability of the IIX, I have a Phase III in my ZL1 and that is very radical to drive I dont want anything that crazy for this car, that is why I am leaning toward the 475 package. Can anyone with either of these GMMG packages give me some feedback on there cars and what they think of the Phase IIX

Ok I thought the phase 2x was the 525 hp package apparently this is another number. Does anyone know all the phase packages ?

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P2X is the 475 package..or at least it was a few years ago.The early P2 cars were rated at 435,then 475,and the current one's are 500+ depending on components.The 475 cars are very streetable,you can cruise in traffic with the air on at 190 degrees.The X6 and X6R versions are more radical..
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Originally Posted by ZL1 #14
Hello everyone, I need some advice. We are thinking of upgrading one of my GMMG cars to either the Phase IIX or the 475 package. One of my concerns is the driveability of the IIX, I have a Phase III in my ZL1 and that is very radical to drive I dont want anything that crazy for this car, that is why I am leaning toward the 475 package. Can anyone with either of these GMMG packages give me some feedback on there cars and what they think of the Phase IIX

Thank you,
Doug
Hey Doug I drove the phase2 x 525 horse from matt its very steetable big cam rocks the ground sounds like your phase three or close.I did have a phase2 x on my le car but it was done up north that was a little diffent it did not like to run with the air on .Then i took it to vengeance to tune it it was much better then .Go with the 2 x kit 525 that matt is doing it has a diffent throttle body and intake.
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Originally Posted by LateBrakeU2
P2X is the 475 package..or at least it was a few years ago.The early P2 cars were rated at 435,then 475,and the current one's are 500+ depending on components.The 475 cars are very streetable,you can cruise in traffic with the air on at 190 degrees.The X6 and X6R versions are more radical..
What is the X6 or X6R ?
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6 = LS6 heads . . . forgot what "R" meant . . .
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Not sure on the R version .Matt would know that
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Go with the P2X or the P2X6. Mine is the 525 HP LX6 heads and I have no trouble. As long as you have a good tune, that I think Vengence does anyway you will be very satisfied. And did I mention one BAD *** ride.
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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
6 = LS6 heads . . . forgot what "R" meant . . .
Full ARP,and maybe a higher lift cam but not sure on that one.
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R = Race
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Jerry,you need to buy Jordan's Berger Intimidator so you'll have one for every day of the week
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Hey guys I will answer this one. The R if for Race and includes everything the P2X6 except is has Flycut Pistons, ARP rod bolts top and bottom, and one BIG CAM.
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I have the P2X6 and I drive it where ever I want to go. It turns a lot of heads!
One thing that I did run into, is that it has too much torque for the stock A4 (burnt my drive bands up just driving, not racing). I had a Torco/Art Carr 4L60E built and put back in her. It is the same tranny used in the P3 Camaros. I really love driving it now!
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How many phase packages are there ?
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LateBrakeU2 wrote:
Jerry,you need to buy Jordan's Berger Intimidator so you'll have one for every day of the week
Hey Mark, If Jerry buys one more GMMG car, there won't be any left for any of us!!!!!! I'm trying to catch up to Jerry, but I don't think he has to worry.

Jerry, I finally took your advice and put the deposit on the last DH car. Maybe by the next Fbody show we can park the two side by side! Hope the toothpick business is going well....
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Berger has a trick green D.H car for sale $101k and change, owned by Matt Berger
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Looks like they have a few 2002 Camaro's are any of the other ones Bergers?
I see they have a yellow one and I know thats not a factory color?
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Originally Posted by JS
Looks like they have a few 2002 Camaro's are any of the other ones Bergers?
I see they have a yellow one and I know thats not a factory color?
I dont think so, the DH car is the only GMMG car I saw for sale, I offered 95k cash for the DH car and they refused, go figure

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Hey Mark, If Jerry buys one more GMMG car, there won't be any left for any of us!!!!!! I'm trying to catch up to Jerry, but I don't think he has to worry.
Jordan,
There is one private collector that is laps up on even Jerry's impressive stable.He owns probably 20+ GMMG cars,half of which are P3ZL1's-(kinda like the Hunt brothers sucking up all the silver in the seventies)..look how hard it is to find one now!
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Well if u go to there site it sez they have a yellow camaro?
There were no yellow camaro's ever built other than gmmg cars so what is this car?
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Originally Posted by LateBrakeU2
Jordan,
There is one private collector that is laps up on even Jerry's impressive stable.He owns probably 20+ GMMG cars,half of which are P3ZL1's-(kinda like the Hunt brothers sucking up all the silver in the seventies)..look how hard it is to find one now!
I sold one of my GMMG cars to him about 2 years ago, his name is Andy


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