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Old 08-08-2009, 05:37 PM
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Anyone done it? I know it wont fit without cutting but even if the diameter would work I think the side impact bar would get in the way so a shallow depth is essential.

Any suggestions? if 8" won't work in the doors I am thinking of doing dayton rs180 6.5" and some decent tweeters (relocating the tweeters to the a pillars) as I think these will have better midrange/midbass than infinity 62.7. and I can better position the tweeters. thoughts on this guys?

I'll be running the stock 01 camaro monsoon amp
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kicker makes a shallow 6.5 sub---the kicker cvt65
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kicker makes a shallow 6.5 sub---the kicker cvt65
no sure I want to put subs in the doors rather than something that can play midrange. Question: can I wire SVC 4 ohm subs in parallel to get a 2 ohm load to the monsoon amp in a camaro (mainly want to do it to increase the selections of sail panel replacements)? if possible are there any downsides?
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8" Rainbow W 200 X-Plain is a good candidate for the doors, but with a 6.5" speakers your selection goes way up!
IMO, put 1 or 2 layers of sound deadening with a layer of closed cell foam glued on top of it, inside the doors for a better sound.
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You DEFINITELY want to keep components in the front. Bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Flaring Afro
You DEFINITELY want to keep components in the front. Bad idea.
yeah I had thought it might be a bad idea. Should I stick to the infinity 62.7i or go with the 63.9i for the doors? the 63.9i have better tweeters and better midrange (I think) and are 3 way.
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I havent heard the 63.9i, but if you arent satisfied with the others I wouldnt buy more infinitys.
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I had those infinitys in my camaro, got them cuz they were 2 ohm so i thought they would work well... they arnt a bad set of speakers but do not get the power they need to really shine


if you want to redo a camaro get a good set of comps up front 2 or 3 way depending on how much you want to spend. then a set of those 8 inch kicker subs in the sails for midbass, and finally a 10 or 12 in the back for some low end

do that and give them some good power and you will not be disapointed
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Originally Posted by Silver Rocket
I had those infinitys in my camaro, got them cuz they were 2 ohm so i thought they would work well... they arnt a bad set of speakers but do not get the power they need to really shine


if you want to redo a camaro get a good set of comps up front 2 or 3 way depending on how much you want to spend. then a set of those 8 inch kicker subs in the sails for midbass, and finally a 10 or 12 in the back for some low end

do that and give them some good power and you will not be disapointed
did you use the infinity's off of the monsoon amp?

yeah, what I meant to say in the title of the thread was 8" in the sails not the doors. I did some measuring and it looks like 8" wont fit in the sails... anyone been able to make 8" work in the sails with/without modification?
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Originally Posted by CarolinaCamaro
... anyone been able to make 8" work in the sails with/without modification?
Kee Audio has mentioned that he did that in his car and wished he hadn't. He said there was no appreciable difference in sound so he had chopped up his sail panels for no good reason.

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The RS180 would be a good choice, but let me tell you from experience - they are too deep for our doors. Even with 3/4" MDF. Used with a tweeter that can dig down reasonably deep like the Seas Neo that I use, it would make a good 2-way system.

Not sure where any of you got the idea that he was talking about a subwoofer, because they are not even CLOSE to the same thing. A "midbass" driver can be thought of as half midrange, half woofer. Most decent 2-way systems will use a midbass and a tweeter. Some people still call them woofers and some still call them midranges, but midbass is a pretty accepted term these days, and either way, they are NOT subwoofers.
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What do you think about these for the doors (running off the stock monsoon amp)?

Polk Audio MM6501

Detailed item info
Key Features
Car Speaker Type Component System
Elements 2-Way
Car Speaker Function Mid-Range Speaker, Tweeter
Size 6.5"
Nominal Power Handling 125 Watt RMS


Technical Features
Peak Power Handling 250 Watt
Frequency Response 40 Hz - 25 kHz
Sensitivity 94 dB
Impedance 3 ohm (Dual Coil) (really 2.7 ohm)


Components
Tweeter Design Dome
Tweeter Size 1"
Woofer Material Glass Fiber (PMI)
Surround Material Butyl Rubber


Mounting
Enclosure Non-Enclosed
Top Mounting Depth 2.56 In.


Additional Information about Polk Audio MM6501

Car Component System

Key Features
Car Speaker Type: Component System
Elements: 2-Way
Car Speaker Function: Mid-Range Speaker, Tweeter
Size: 6.5"
Nominal Power Handling: 125 Watt RMS


Technical Features
Peak Power Handling: 250 Watt
Frequency Response: 40 Hz - 25 kHz
Sensitivity: 94 dB
Impedance: 3 ohm (Dual Coil)


Components
Tweeter Design: Dome
Tweeter Size: 1"
Woofer Material: Glass Fiber (PMI)
Surround Material: Butyl Rubber


Mounting
Enclosure: Non-Enclosed
Top Mounting Depth: 2.56 In.
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Should sound fine, but won't have the bass capabilities of Rainbow... or the RS180. (Which, btw, is a 7", so depth isn't the only problem)
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Should sound fine, but won't have the bass capabilities of Rainbow... or the RS180. (Which, btw, is a 7", so depth isn't the only problem)
true but I looked at some others like the rainbow rs180 and they are 4 ohm with a much lower sensitivity and since I am using the stock monsoon amp for now the 2.7ohm and 94db sensitivity at 1W of the polk's looks to be the best bet for the stock amp... do you agree?
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I don't agree that they're 94dB. That's BS. There's something in audio called Hoffman's Iron Law. With the surface area of a driver held constant, you have a compromise between:

-System efficiency (sensitivity)
-Output and bass capability
-Box size

You can't really dig deep and have a high efficiency is what it comes down to.



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