My 02 CETA Vs Ford Lightning
11-20-2008, 11:22 AM
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Are those Ford Lightning trucks really all that fast? I've seen one or two but never took them serious...They look like an fancy F150... I remember the Cyclone trucks being peppy.. Is that a boosted six banger or LSx motor in the Ford Lightning? I would think the weigh a ton and are heavy as ****...
11-20-2008, 12:05 PM
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11-20-2008, 12:34 PM
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Have you not had it dyno tuned? WHat are your mods if you dont' mind me asking.
11-20-2008, 12:36 PM
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11-20-2008, 12:37 PM
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ALso, 375-400 stock is incorrect. The early 2nd gens are 360FWHP rated and the later 2nd gens are 380FWHP and 450FWTQ.
11-20-2008, 01:10 PM
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COrrect, 5.4L Iron block with HyperUcrappy rods and pistons. Their short block is like a mach/GT and best maxed at 450RWHP. they don't have forged internals like the Cobras.
ALso, 375-400 stock is incorrect. The early 2nd gens are 360FWHP rated and the later 2nd gens are 380FWHP and 450FWTQ.
ALso, 375-400 stock is incorrect. The early 2nd gens are 360FWHP rated and the later 2nd gens are 380FWHP and 450FWTQ.
11-20-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 02txceta
Stock they run mid 14's. They can easily be manipulated to move much better. This gentlemans truck was quite the exception and I believe could run with a new stock Z06....Is that quick to you?
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mid 14s would be on the slow side or the 97-00 L years. They are generally mid high 13s. 01-04 are generally closer to mid 13s.
That may be with a expert test driver, but I had my GN at the track a couple years ago and had a club of about 50 come out. 80% were 14's or higher, 15% were in the 13's, and 5% were better than that. Not taking anything away from them but 13's would be a great run for a stock L.
Stock they run mid 14's. They can easily be manipulated to move much better. This gentlemans truck was quite the exception and I believe could run with a new stock Z06....Is that quick to you?
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mid 14s would be on the slow side or the 97-00 L years. They are generally mid high 13s. 01-04 are generally closer to mid 13s.
That may be with a expert test driver, but I had my GN at the track a couple years ago and had a club of about 50 come out. 80% were 14's or higher, 15% were in the 13's, and 5% were better than that. Not taking anything away from them but 13's would be a great run for a stock L.
11-20-2008, 04:05 PM
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11-20-2008, 04:16 PM
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I have heard really good things about the KB blowers. I have had a couple of blown Mustangs in the past but never went with KB. Why not headers? Cam/Headwork?
11-20-2008, 05:06 PM
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Well I guess with mods then the Lightning truck can move well... I remember racing a stock one years ago and it just wasn't all that... A cyclone gave me a better challenge if my memory serves me correctly...
Kinda cool to think you gotta truck that can haul some stuff for work, then empty the bed and go find a race after... Talk about multi purpose
Kinda cool to think you gotta truck that can haul some stuff for work, then empty the bed and go find a race after... Talk about multi purpose
11-20-2008, 10:04 PM
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No headwork/cam. When the GenII came out the only headers available were shorties and you did not pick up any with them. Then came longtubes which are pretty expensive and to really benefit from them you really need a good set of heads/cam combo. Just never did them and my truck combo works so well is why, however may consider them because I probably would pick up some more torque and release some of that high boost level.
11-21-2008, 11:22 AM
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That may be with a expert test driver, but I had my GN at the track a couple years ago and had a club of about 50 come out. 80% were 14's or higher, 15% were in the 13's, and 5% were better than that. Not taking anything away from them but 13's would be a great run for a stock L.
Well I guess with mods then the Lightning truck can move well... I remember racing a stock one years ago and it just wasn't all that... A cyclone gave me a better challenge if my memory serves me correctly...
Kinda cool to think you gotta truck that can haul some stuff for work, then empty the bed and go find a race after... Talk about multi purpose
Kinda cool to think you gotta truck that can haul some stuff for work, then empty the bed and go find a race after... Talk about multi purpose
11-21-2008, 11:25 AM
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Cams and Headwork is relatively expensive on Modular motors. KB's are great blowers, I agree. I looked into a setup for my mach, but went with ATi instead. (got a great deal on one. LOL).
11-21-2008, 02:36 PM
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I'll throw in a little insight to this story, since the big dummy driving the truck is one of my best friends, yet he's also my biggest racing rival. It is definitely a very fast truck, and it runs like a scalded dog from a roll; as the two of you learned.
I can explain why he stayed at your rear bumper too for the second run. He was waiting for you to back down rather than him speed up. That truck from a 60mph punch is brutal, and he wants you to run his race. And typically in street racing if someone starts slowing back a slight bit, it's there way of indicating they want you to do the same, and when you do --- it's a clear indication both parties want to race.
Anyway, I had a 99' LS1 383 stroker in my Z28 that ran a best of 11.43 @ 119.8. It was an automatic. Typically it ran 11.50's on Nittos.
Me and "Fasttruck" would run each other any chance we got, and like I said; it was his race from 60 to about 90. After that I'd begin walking him hard. Ironically though, he considered the race to always be over at 90mph,,, go figure...
If you "02TXCETA" were to spray him from that range you would clearly take him. However, w/o spray up til about 100 he's going to be out on you, based on your rwhp stats and conservative rpm limit. I would however think the 6-speed would give you some help over my automatic. I was making 441rwhp and 448 rwtq, if that gives you any comparison, but it was a very flat curve on the dyno, carrying well throughout the pull.
My only hopes now is that a different kind of lightning will strike me to get off my lazy butt and finish my GN so I'll have something to beat that dang truck w/ again! In the mean time I'd suggest bringing out your own GN and using it to reclaim victory. Not that I'm rooting against my friend, but I guess I've got a bit of bias towards the old Buicks. And I won't even go into the stories of how I destroyed him at the track w/ mine back in the day, before he became so modded...
Sounds like I missed some fun w/ y'alls races, but I did get a quick summary of it via a phone call immediately following.
And on a side note, we do have an active Houston Buick Club if you're interested in checking it out. www.houstonbuick.org
I can explain why he stayed at your rear bumper too for the second run. He was waiting for you to back down rather than him speed up. That truck from a 60mph punch is brutal, and he wants you to run his race. And typically in street racing if someone starts slowing back a slight bit, it's there way of indicating they want you to do the same, and when you do --- it's a clear indication both parties want to race.
Anyway, I had a 99' LS1 383 stroker in my Z28 that ran a best of 11.43 @ 119.8. It was an automatic. Typically it ran 11.50's on Nittos.
Me and "Fasttruck" would run each other any chance we got, and like I said; it was his race from 60 to about 90. After that I'd begin walking him hard. Ironically though, he considered the race to always be over at 90mph,,, go figure...
If you "02TXCETA" were to spray him from that range you would clearly take him. However, w/o spray up til about 100 he's going to be out on you, based on your rwhp stats and conservative rpm limit. I would however think the 6-speed would give you some help over my automatic. I was making 441rwhp and 448 rwtq, if that gives you any comparison, but it was a very flat curve on the dyno, carrying well throughout the pull.
My only hopes now is that a different kind of lightning will strike me to get off my lazy butt and finish my GN so I'll have something to beat that dang truck w/ again! In the mean time I'd suggest bringing out your own GN and using it to reclaim victory. Not that I'm rooting against my friend, but I guess I've got a bit of bias towards the old Buicks. And I won't even go into the stories of how I destroyed him at the track w/ mine back in the day, before he became so modded...
Sounds like I missed some fun w/ y'alls races, but I did get a quick summary of it via a phone call immediately following.
And on a side note, we do have an active Houston Buick Club if you're interested in checking it out. www.houstonbuick.org
11-23-2008, 09:44 AM
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I believe the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 is the fastest production made pick up truck to date...
http://www.actioncorp.net/index.php?showtopic=3477
http://www.actioncorp.net/index.php?showtopic=3477
11-23-2008, 10:53 AM
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I believe the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 is the fastest production made pick up truck to date...
http://www.actioncorp.net/index.php?showtopic=3477
http://www.actioncorp.net/index.php?showtopic=3477
BTW - the SRT10 ram is fastest in top speed, even if only by 3 MPH, it's still faster on the top end.
HOWEVER, it is not quicker than an L. Lightings are still quicker in the 1320.