GTR vs LS3 vs 03 Cobra vs GT500 vs SRT8 vs dumdumdumdum
01-28-2009, 10:59 AM
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LOL.....******' GTR jumped the gun on the second honk on EVERY race.
What a *****.
Also...how the HELL does an intake LS3 stay even/inch on a 600rwhp GT500? Weight or no weight, I'm here to tell you guys either that LS3 Vette has a lot more done to it than that, or the GT500 isn't running right. An intake, catless, tune LS3 vette should be good for right around 120mph through the traps.
What a *****.Also...how the HELL does an intake LS3 stay even/inch on a 600rwhp GT500? Weight or no weight, I'm here to tell you guys either that LS3 Vette has a lot more done to it than that, or the GT500 isn't running right. An intake, catless, tune LS3 vette should be good for right around 120mph through the traps.
01-28-2009, 12:03 PM
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Listen, I know people on here don't like the GTR and that there's a HUGE amount of hype surrounding them but last I checked Hennessey had a 600hp package available for them on stock turbos (still expensive anyway).
Not likely that the tranny will hold up to that though
On a side note, I was at a NJ auto show this previous saturday and a rep. for a major local Nissan dealership (biggest in NJ anyway) said that the GTR was the fastest car at the show. That would be great and all if the show was smaller, but there was a C6 ZR1 on the other side of the showroom floor
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Not likely that the tranny will hold up to that though
On a side note, I was at a NJ auto show this previous saturday and a rep. for a major local Nissan dealership (biggest in NJ anyway) said that the GTR was the fastest car at the show. That would be great and all if the show was smaller, but there was a C6 ZR1 on the other side of the showroom floor
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01-28-2009, 05:35 PM
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01-28-2009, 11:09 PM
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I do not recall seeing that. Also, if you look at the comments by the Vette owner below the video posting he states that it only has an intake, tune, and no cats.
01-29-2009, 08:22 AM
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i dunno if this might clear things up a bit but this is a ported/sprayed cobra against a ls3 vette with spray.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQEGbK2hTh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQEGbK2hTh8
If so... NO sir... there's WAY more to that story than what the video gives up... Nuh uh... Not hardly.
01-29-2009, 08:31 AM
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Listen, I know people on here don't like the GTR and that there's a HUGE amount of hype surrounding them but last I checked Hennessey had a 600hp package available for them on stock turbos (still expensive anyway).
Not likely that the tranny will hold up to that though
On a side note, I was at a NJ auto show this previous saturday and a rep. for a major local Nissan dealership (biggest in NJ anyway) said that the GTR was the fastest car at the show. That would be great and all if the show was smaller, but there was a C6 ZR1 on the other side of the showroom floor.
Not likely that the tranny will hold up to that though
On a side note, I was at a NJ auto show this previous saturday and a rep. for a major local Nissan dealership (biggest in NJ anyway) said that the GTR was the fastest car at the show. That would be great and all if the show was smaller, but there was a C6 ZR1 on the other side of the showroom floor
.Say what ya want, but this generation of Vette is the best muscle car in the world today and all the crying about interior appintments and weak leather seats from Road and Track isn't going to change that. Stock they're BEASTS and the list of potential mods is endless; which takes them into the 'screw you, let's race' category... and that doesn't even consider the ZR-1. She's taking everything at which she bothers to show... 1.1 lateral Gs... 3.3 to 60, breaking is ridiculous and power... well ****, there's plenty to spare without regard to who is in the next lane.
The video is not EVEN telling the whole story here... Nuh uh...
01-29-2009, 09:00 AM
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What is so hard to believe about a 500+ RWHP car + spray beating a <400 RWHP car + spray?
01-29-2009, 09:37 AM
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because from what the owner of the vette said! he said his spray was not working right, even if the cobra would win it WOULD NOT pull that hard on a bolt on LS3 with a 150 shot
01-29-2009, 09:48 AM
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We had a new GT-R roll down to our 1/8th mile track and he ran consistent high 7s... Which is fine and all, but considering the "Godzilla" hype and the coin... dollar for dollar, the Vette kill's em add induction to the Vette and it's over before it even begins.
Say what ya want, but this generation of Vette is the best muscle car in the world today and all the crying about interior appintments and weak leather seats from Road and Track isn't going to change that. Stock they're BEASTS and the list of potential mods is endless; which takes them into the 'screw you, let's race' category... and that doesn't even consider the ZR-1. She's taking everything at which she bothers to show... 1.1 lateral Gs... 3.3 to 60, breaking is ridiculous and power... well ****, there's plenty to spare without regard to who is in the next lane.
The video is not EVEN telling the whole story here... Nuh uh...
Say what ya want, but this generation of Vette is the best muscle car in the world today and all the crying about interior appintments and weak leather seats from Road and Track isn't going to change that. Stock they're BEASTS and the list of potential mods is endless; which takes them into the 'screw you, let's race' category... and that doesn't even consider the ZR-1. She's taking everything at which she bothers to show... 1.1 lateral Gs... 3.3 to 60, breaking is ridiculous and power... well ****, there's plenty to spare without regard to who is in the next lane.
The video is not EVEN telling the whole story here... Nuh uh...
than that 
01-29-2009, 09:53 AM
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And wouldn't a bolt-on/pullied Cobra beat an intake/muffler LS3 Vette? Especially from a 70mph roll? Add a 150 shot to both cars, and it might go even more in the Cobra's favor.
01-29-2009, 09:54 AM
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We had a new GT-R roll down to our 1/8th mile track and he ran consistent high 7s... Which is fine and all, but considering the "Godzilla" hype and the coin... dollar for dollar, the Vette kill's em add induction to the Vette and it's over before it even begins.
Say what ya want, but this generation of Vette is the best muscle car in the world today and all the crying about interior appintments and weak leather seats from Road and Track isn't going to change that. Stock they're BEASTS and the list of potential mods is endless; which takes them into the 'screw you, let's race' category... and that doesn't even consider the ZR-1. She's taking everything at which she bothers to show... 1.1 lateral Gs... 3.3 to 60, breaking is ridiculous and power... well ****, there's plenty to spare without regard to who is in the next lane.
The video is not EVEN telling the whole story here... Nuh uh...
Say what ya want, but this generation of Vette is the best muscle car in the world today and all the crying about interior appintments and weak leather seats from Road and Track isn't going to change that. Stock they're BEASTS and the list of potential mods is endless; which takes them into the 'screw you, let's race' category... and that doesn't even consider the ZR-1. She's taking everything at which she bothers to show... 1.1 lateral Gs... 3.3 to 60, breaking is ridiculous and power... well ****, there's plenty to spare without regard to who is in the next lane.
The video is not EVEN telling the whole story here... Nuh uh...
I didn't say anything about the newer C6's...
Aside from the fact that an idiot Nissan rep thought the GT-R was quicker then a ZR1.................Trust me, you don't need to inform me of what the current C6,C6Z, and C6 Zr1 are capable of
They happen to be one of my favorite cars.
If I had the money right now I'd go out and buy an 09 base with an A6.........
I was just stating that the GT-R is no Joke either, even though everyone seems to think it is... Oh well
01-29-2009, 05:29 PM
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The GT-R suffered from overhype which it wasn't really able to live up to. If Nissan had just produced the damn thing and handed it over to the public....everyone would have been pleasantly surprised and it wouldn't be catching as much flak as it does. Instead they produced and advertised a bunch of numbers that no one else has been able to reproduce, and all the while they are telling customers that if they use the onboard features that would allow them to recreate those numbers........they can kiss their warranty goodbye.
But for what it is, it is a pretty impressive car. I just don't consider it a driver's car, since the car seems to do most of the correcting for you. Cool?........sure. Thrilling?.........not as much. JMO.
But for what it is, it is a pretty impressive car. I just don't consider it a driver's car, since the car seems to do most of the correcting for you. Cool?........sure. Thrilling?.........not as much. JMO.
01-29-2009, 07:36 PM
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^^^
I agree.
The auto mags are to blame for it's over hype as well.
While the car tends to drive itself, I can't say that it would necessarily be boring to drive. I imagine it would be pretty fun to snap off a rediculously fast time at a local track (the kind of track with turns). You couldn't toy with it as much as, say, a C6Z though. That's pretty definite.
It all depends on what you prefer I guess; I'd have to test drive both.
I agree.
The auto mags are to blame for it's over hype as well.
While the car tends to drive itself, I can't say that it would necessarily be boring to drive. I imagine it would be pretty fun to snap off a rediculously fast time at a local track (the kind of track with turns). You couldn't toy with it as much as, say, a C6Z though. That's pretty definite.
It all depends on what you prefer I guess; I'd have to test drive both.
01-30-2009, 08:26 AM
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Yeah, from what I read, the GT-R was coined "The Corvette Killer" where Nissan had designed it to kill the Z06... then the ZR-1 hit the news and it was over...
What will be cool is to see what the big road racers do to compensate for the ZR-1... I expect to see things like the new Strike Fighter without the wings.
What will be cool is to see what the big road racers do to compensate for the ZR-1... I expect to see things like the new Strike Fighter without the wings.
01-30-2009, 02:21 PM
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Yeah, from what I read, the GT-R was coined "The Corvette Killer" where Nissan had designed it to kill the Z06... then the ZR-1 hit the news and it was over...
What will be cool is to see what the big road racers do to compensate for the ZR-1... I expect to see things like the new Strike Fighter without the wings.
What will be cool is to see what the big road racers do to compensate for the ZR-1... I expect to see things like the new Strike Fighter without the wings.
Nissan's only solution is to lower the weight
of the GT-R with the V-spec, which will improve the car somewhat (not enough though, I think).Ford's answer... Umm... Nothing? There was a Ltd prod. variant of the GT called the GTX1 that had something like 700hp, but that's obviously discontinued.
The Germans and italians are still into their overwheight GT cars (except the new LP560 Superleggera actually holds a few track records/ one even over the SRT-10 ACR)
