LT1 vs Cobra
02-22-2009, 08:56 AM
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Pit the two best quarter mile times you can find from each car against each other and see if you still feel the same way. Cobra - mid 13's LS1 - high 12's
02-22-2009, 10:49 AM
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"OK", I accept that given equal drivers the LS1 is a faster car, no arguement needed. A (stock) LT1 with equal drivers is a different situation entirely.
02-22-2009, 10:50 AM
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well i already knew i was gonna win i was just messin around with the kid. but for him to turn around and tell me LS1s suck after he just got beat by an LT1 before i even told him it had a cam is just plain ridiculous. ill even add to it by saying he had a total of 4 people in the car. we met him in a parking lot where he had the option to off load them for a while because we wer commin back there. i told him it probably wasnt a good idea to have that many people in the car, but he just told me "im not worried about it" so its his own stupidity, not by chance that he had a full car the story really shouldnt be about the race and more about how stupid these high school kids are.
and iv never had any trouble with Mach 1s before my cam
and iv never had any trouble with Mach 1s before my cam
02-22-2009, 11:00 AM
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plain and simple. Stone cold dealership stock, I was making bolt-on LT1 fbods look like fools on the street, and on the track.
02-22-2009, 11:32 AM
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ill have to agree...the mach 1 that use to come out with us before it got totaled had just a bola slip on and it put it to all the bolt on LT1's that came out and ran it
02-22-2009, 11:52 AM
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huh?? on average an ls1 car is a mid-low 13 second car. have then dipped into the 12's stock sure but few and far far between. 01 cobra vs ls1 f-body is a drivers race. however i would give the ls1 the upper hand all day.
02-22-2009, 12:02 PM
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ford guys- the the Mach 1 and NA cobras use the same engine?
02-22-2009, 12:08 PM
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no they dont share the same engine. similar but different. the mach 1 has a better motor than the 99-01 cobras.
02-22-2009, 12:33 PM
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A 6spd car, sure. But don't leave out all the 2.73-geared A4s and the high-optioned 3.23-geared cars. They're gonna run mid 13s all day long. Like I've been saying for years, there are too many variations of F-bodies to group them all together. And for the record, the only Mach 1s that a stock or mild bolt-on LT1 should be coming close to beating is an automatic Mach 1. They're only a touch quicker than a 5spd 99-04 GT.
02-22-2009, 01:10 PM
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They may look similar on the outside, but on the inside the Mach 1 motor has tweaks the n/a Cobra's WISH they had. They have much better heads, which they share with the 03/04 Cobra, and the intake cams are from the 5.4L Lincoln Navigator motor, which gives the Mach 1 considerably more low end torque than the previous generation n/a Cobra.
02-22-2009, 03:02 PM
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yeah and the "best" times for a 99/01 cobra are better than mid 13's...several people have ran low 13's....the 99/01 cobras can run mid 13's easy. which is what a lot of ls1's run...
and my buddies 99cobra yanked my other buddies 6spd lt1 by 2+ cars.....want a video???? lt1's are not averaging mid 13's so a stock lt1 would've gotten beat...
and my buddies 99cobra yanked my other buddies 6spd lt1 by 2+ cars.....want a video???? lt1's are not averaging mid 13's so a stock lt1 would've gotten beat...
02-22-2009, 03:43 PM
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Take the best Fbody from 2001 and pit it against the best Cobra from 2001. Which has obviously put out better times, consistently. Its not an argument, its a fact. Please don't be ingorant.
99-01 Cobra's on average put down 265-280rwhp in stock form. Around 30rwhp less than a RamAir or SuperSport.
02-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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And it's still a driver's race with the edge going to the F-body. Cobras are only a hair slower than Mach 1s. Given equal drivers the F-body should win, but if the F-body driver isn't on his game and the Cobra driver is, it can turn the tables quickly.
02-22-2009, 04:13 PM
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Once again, I am not talking about drivers, I'm talking about cars. A stock 2001 RamAir or SS will win at the track every time, and it will pull higher trap speed so it should walk on the street also against a stock 2001 Cobra.
02-23-2009, 01:04 PM
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