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slow down big man, that search right there took me the better part of 5 minutes. So its not 70 its more like 45, trust me I won't loose any sleep over my lack of search skills in other forums.

jabawalkie

There is no way a 'stock' 332hp motor is putting down 290rwhp. That's only 12.5 percent drive train loss. Its either the motor was underrated by nissan (and that never happens with jap engines) or there were bolt ons they were hush-hush about.

S8ER95Z

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How is it not possible? We've seen F-Body cars making 320ish rwhp in stock form. Some dynos are generous and some cars stronger than others.

MonmouthCtyLS7

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370z w/ a good driver is a high 12 second car...saw one at the auto showed and loved it.

Wesmanw02

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I love how you say that like its a well known fact.

The best times the mags have hit have been low 13's, and thats on a prepped track, beating the hell out of the car and experimenting with different launch RPM's.

Nobody is going to be hitting 12's in a car that weighs 3400lbs and has 260WHP. Not happening.

Also, there is nothing "new" about the 3.7L engine. Its the same old VQ V6 that has been chastized for its high RPM crudeness and vibrations, read any review and they'll tell you that. The VQ also doesn't repond well to bolt ons, and they are known for having poor piston ring sealing which causes oil consumption.

jabawalkie

Like I said, a 332hp engine will not produce 290rwhp. A 350hp engine will. I dont think nissan is underrating their 3.7. So that car has bolt-ons.

Some american v8s were underrated(the LT4). And maybe a couple here and there from LT1s and LS1s.

PNYKLR-TA

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well if you are gunna try to use some info from a search might as well use take a couple extra minutes to find some more accurate info.

**** i only searched for 5 minutes and found better info then that.

but whatever no sleep lost here either.

i think with a good driver they'll be a high 12 car but for most average drivers i'd agree they'll be stuck in the 13's.

ballhawkdawk

I have yet to see anyone actually **** on anything Wesman has ever said.. they usually just say "oh it's that retarded wesman troll." He's my fayvoryte poster.

Wesmanw02

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Thanks!! I'm glad someone appreciates my posts!!

PNYKLR-TA

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its a match made in heav. . . i mean LS1tech. . . you guys are cute!

BobDoLe

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my 99 ss (automatic) with stock unlocked converter, lid, magnaflow catback and mac midlength headers dyno'd 336 rwhp on a dyno dynamics... with this logic, does that mean i would have dyno'd 378 rwhp on a dynojet?

Wesmanw02

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And just for saying that...you should probably stop posting.

Sarge_13

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No, I think you should.

PNYKLR-TA

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i may not be the smartest or most knowledgeable guy on here but i sure dont go spouting out at every import thread that ever opens up about how every import in the entire world sucks and your car is soo much superior.

hahahahah

Irunelevens

370Z has more than 260rwhp on a dynojet. That's all that really needs to be said.

S8ER95Z

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http://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/42...o-results.html



Dynojet Results with HFC,Stillen Exhaust - 321 and 318rwhp


Same mods Dyno Dynamics - 306rwhp

S8ER95Z

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You're right..290 is a stretch.. you're also obviously very biased but that's another topic...

http://my350z.com/forum/vq37hvr/4189...4-whp-sae.html




Another one - 285.46whp and 243.40wtq.

jabawalkie

Even the 286 seems high. That's only 13.8 percent drive train loss. All it takes is a K&N filter swap or equivalent, and you will see on average a 7rwhp gain. Now, that would bring it down to 279rwhp. That is more realistic at 16 percent DTL.

I wouldn't put much faith into magazine time slips either. My uncle used to work for Road&Track and tested a good amount of cars in his 12 years there. Some mags receive cars from the factory with pcm tunning and stickier after market tires. Motortrend is notorious for letting that slide.

S8ER95Z

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You're really hung up on the manufacturers power ratings being gospel and your on LS1Tech? WTF?

Let me guess you believe the Ford GT has a DTL of 7% too right?

I'm not puting any faith in magazine times... the owners themselves with 350Z HRs have gone as quick as 13.1 @ 109mph... so a lighter 370Z with more horsepower is going to run slower than the pathetic times the magazines are posting up? (is that what you are saying here??)

The irony is all of these magazines post crap times for nearly every car they test so I don't agree with you at all.

Here are some 'stellar' performance results from these guys on the old LS1 F-body....

Example:
A ringer from edmunds
14.0@103.9 mph
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta.../pageNumber=10

Another ringer from C&D
13.8 seconds at 104 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-6.html

MT: 13.49/107.34
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ang_specs.html

Real Life: 13.19/108.59mph
With a Z28 on a real track with an 'ok' driver behind the wheel.

That example alone illustrates the fact that real drivers on real tracks with really good weather will not only run better than those magazine times but will likely have the ability to pull off 12s under optimal conditions with a great driver.

dsmfan95

Sometimes I'll have a rebuttal typed up in the reply box, then realize it's really not worth trying to have a discussion with someone like that.