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Old 04-27-2009, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Wasnt' there another S197 posted on here not too long ago that had cams, spray and vengeance tune and lost to a cammed Fbod?


Nice death KN. WHo installed the Cams? were they degreed do you know?
he raced the WS6 with the torquer 2 cam and lost eachtime this guy named billy installed his cams i was shocked i started pull up on him towards the head . . . like he still had no power up top
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I'm curious to know what's so funny.
You know how retarded people laugh when they don't understand something?
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I'm curious to know what's so funny.
Because 3v's are garbage. Even the Mustangs guys think they are crap
Old 04-27-2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Because 3v's are garbage. Even the Mustangs guys think they are crap
now what on earth makes you think that?
Old 04-27-2009, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silverM6TA
now what on earth makes you think that?
I know a lot of stang owners lol
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Because 3v's are garbage. Even the Mustangs guys think they are crap
Wow..maybe you're confused with the 2v?
Old 04-27-2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
Wow..maybe you're confused with the 2v?
Or maybe just confused in general?
Old 04-28-2009, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
Wow..maybe you're confused with the 2v?
Nope. They suck. The only good 4.6 is the 4 valve
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Nope. They suck. The only good 4.6 is the 4 valve
3V heads flow nearly as well as 4V heads. Don't speak about what you don't know.
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Nope. They suck. The only good 4.6 is the 4 valve
see the button in my avatar........do your research kid. They flow almost as well as the 4v cars. Listen to the Mustang guys in here (unit, JayplaySS2, ponygt65, newskoolmach, irunelevens, etc). They know more about mustangs then you have forgotten.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
3V heads flow nearly as well as 4V heads. Don't speak about what you don't know.
I wasn't talking about just the heads now was I? Don't speak about what you don't know.


see the button in my avatar........do your research kid.
Who are you calling kid? I know what I am talking about. I know a lot of stang guys and they just don't like the 3 valve motors. I'm not just talking about the heads. I'm talking about the motor in general.

The reason I laughed at sprayed 3vs is cause cam only I raced one with a 100 shot and he didn't win.
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
I wasn't talking about just the heads now was I? Don't speak about what you don't know.




Who are you calling kid? I know what I am talking about. I know a lot of stang guys and they just don't like the 3 valve motors. I'm not just talking about the heads. I'm talking about the motor in general.

The reason I laughed at sprayed 3vs is cause cam only I raced one with a 100 shot and he didn't win.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
No need to bang your head into the wall. There was a big discussion on why the 3v sucks. The server is down and I can't access the page right now. I can't recall what the problems were.
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
No need to bang your head into the wall. There was a big discussion on why the 3v sucks. The server is down and I can't access the page right now. I can't recall what the problems were.
What website was this on? I've had 2 3v's (one '07 GT/CS and a 5.0 SPJ302 now) and they are great engines. The only real weak point is the rods
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
What website was this on? I've had 2 3v's (one '07 GT/CS and a 5.0 SPJ302 now) and they are great engines. The only real weak point is the rods
It was on a local stang site. I have heard that the stock rods suck in all the 4.6s besides the cobras. I really wish the server wasn't down so I could look at it again.

It was on tcstangs.com
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
It was on a local stang site. I have heard that the stock rods suck in all the 4.6s besides the cobras. I really wish the server wasn't down so I could look at it again.

It was on tcstangs.com

You may have read on the Mustang forums how some Mustang guys don't like three valves and everyone has opinions. Fact is they respond to mods very well. One reason alot of "Mustang" guys don't like the three valve as much as the 4V is the cam phaser on the 3V. The phaser (I'm not sure on the spelling) Changes the timing on the cams for better emissions and gas mileage. When you go to aftermarket cams and eliminate the phaser it really wakes up these motors. They are also more complicated to tune. They are still new, most of the good tuners have figured them out. Basically people are creatures of habit and don't like what they don't know. Believe me when the 4V came out on the earilier Cobras ford guys where like "what a piece of ****" now they freakin love them.

Here is a badazz three valve a company in Florida called Blow By Racing built. by the way stock 3V block and heads.

http://www.southfloridastangs.net/sf...ad.php?t=41535


So really before you post up about **** you don't know about you should get the facts. Maybe stick to GM's.
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
It was on a local stang site. I have heard that the stock rods suck in all the 4.6s besides the cobras. I really wish the server wasn't down so I could look at it again.

It was on tcstangs.com
The only 4.6 Mustangs that have different rods are the '03-'04 Cobras. So if your opinion is that every 4.6 Mustang but the '03-'04 Cobra sucks, then maybe you should say that instead . The 3V GTs are able to take basically just as much power on the stock shortblock as a non-Terminator 4V, given a good tune.
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well since you guys are off my topic lol my mom had a 96 XR7 cougar with the 4.6 in it, i don't know much about mustang engines so i don't know which valve it was . . . anyway that engine ran hella strong and it was a blast to drive until one day my mom tried to start it and well that was that. the engine was pulled at the ford dealership and 2 rods bent in the shape of an S at only 75k.

now back to my subject lol mustang guys (and i'm not tryin to single you out lol) when i get dr's if i still get killed it'll be by much less i hope right?
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
he raced the WS6 with the torquer 2 cam and lost eachtime this guy named billy installed his cams i was shocked i started pull up on him towards the head . . . like he still had no power up top
"Billy"?...you're up in Modesto right? Billy Who? There's a billy up in Turlock (at least used to be) that had his own shop and was a Ford SVT tech....lemme tell you, if that's the same guy ......... STAY THE **** AWAY FROM HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THat guy has FUCKED so many people over......including ME. Find out who he is dealing with because if it's HIM.....that guy is bound to lose a ******* motor or get screwed one way or another.

The tune must suck *****, or the Cam timing is WAY OFF< or both.

Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Because 3v's are garbage. Even the Mustangs guys think they are crap
Originally Posted by phoenix1987
I know a lot of stang owners lol
Originally Posted by phoenix1987
Nope. They suck. The only good 4.6 is the 4 valve
Originally Posted by phoenix1987
I wasn't talking about just the heads now was I? Don't speak about what you don't know.

Who are you calling kid? I know what I am talking about. I know a lot of stang guys and they just don't like the 3 valve motors. I'm not just talking about the heads. I'm talking about the motor in general.

The reason I laughed at sprayed 3vs is cause cam only I raced one with a 100 shot and he didn't win.
Originally Posted by phoenix1987
No need to bang your head into the wall. There was a big discussion on why the 3v sucks. The server is down and I can't access the page right now. I can't recall what the problems were.
Originally Posted by phoenix1987
It was on a local stang site. I have heard that the stock rods suck in all the 4.6s besides the cobras. I really wish the server wasn't down so I could look at it again.

It was on tcstangs.com
KID I'M now telling you that you have NO ******* clue what you're talking about. So...STFU before you get schooled harder than a catholic school girl getting a whoopin' for her skirt being to short.

You're ******* ignorantly stupid.
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Originally Posted by phoenix1987
It was on a local stang site. I have heard that the stock rods suck in all the 4.6s besides the cobras. I really wish the server wasn't down so I could look at it again.

It was on tcstangs.com
Well if the guys on tcstangs said it... you can prolly take that to the bank and cash it....

Seriously Kid(seems to be popular) theirs no need to be this ignorant if you can get on a computer... Try it sometime...

3v's are great motors.


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