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Old 05-20-2009, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FormulaZR
Here is the ratio comparison for the A6 vs our A4:

1st - 4.03 / 3.06
2nd - 2.36 / 1.63
3rd - 1.53 / 1.0
4th - 1.15 / .7
5th - .85 / na
6th - .67 / na

If you put the math to it, you'll see that a G8 GXP with a 3.27 rear gear is actually "lower" than an A4 F-body with 3.73's.
Thanks for the numbers.....exactly what I thought.
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What you guys are missing is OVERALL gearing. Each ratio must be multiplied by the final drive to show the TRUE overall gearing vs. the other car.

For example, a Cobra with a 3:55 FD is actually less agressively geared than an SRT-8 with a 3:06 FD in 1st and 2nd gear due to the gear ratios in 1st and 2nd.

The only other confounding factor is the height of the tires on each car.

However, since the powertrains are closely related (domestic pushrod NA V-8s), just comparing top speed in each gear may be a simpler way.
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Great run! Mods on the TA? I really love those G8s. If I ever need a four door sedan and I can find a low mileage one in mint condition at the time, there would be no other option for me except a GXP.
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Mods on the TA are just High flow cats + cutout + SLP Lid.

Thinking about getting a GXP now hahah.... Don't know what the negative effects would be owning a brand new car with the manufacturer ceasing to exist...
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interesting thread, learning can be fun...
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Nice run. Guy's on the G8 board seem to think stock G8 GT's are faster than stock f-bodies.

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Old 05-25-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Newskool Mach
I love those things if I had the money I would get one before Pontiac goes belly up. I'm supprised it can stay with an F-body. Educate a Ford guy please what is the difference between a GXP and GT G8?
Originally Posted by Johnnystock
what about the TA? any mods?
the op has a stock auto, so i'm sure the 09 G8 GXP would have been raped if against M6 car
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
the op has a stock auto, so i'm sure the 09 G8 GXP would have been raped if against M6 car
I don't know about raped... they run about the same times with the GXP having higher traps if I am not mistaken?


Nice run. Guy's on the G8 board seem to think stock G8 GT's are faster than stock f-bodies.
Now that is just funny....
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Originally Posted by Formula-T/A
Nice run. Guy's on the G8 board seem to think stock G8 GT's are faster than stock f-bodies.
Fanboys are everywhere, it is part of human nature. It's very entertaining.

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I don't know about raped... they run about the same times with the GXP having higher traps if I am not mistaken?
+1
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A Friend of mine with a stock G8 GT ran mid 13's all day long (first time at the track with his car) So I would guess a GXP would run a good bit quicker. I would hope the G8 GXP would win most races vs a mostly stock Fbody. wouldn't be too ugly but I would hope the G8 would win...

good race
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
the op has a stock auto, so i'm sure the 09 G8 GXP would have been raped if against M6 car
Not being a jerk here but how does this logic work? I'm quite sure when stock, A4 and M6 fbody LS1 cars all run similar ets with most variances occurring in the trap speeds? Either way though, thanks for sharing op.
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Originally Posted by oddwraith
Not being a jerk here but how does this logic work? I'm quite sure when stock, A4 and M6 fbody LS1 cars all run similar ets with most variances occurring in the trap speeds? Either way though, thanks for sharing op.
OP posted about a roll race... ET means very little here....
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Originally Posted by oddwraith
Not being a jerk here but how does this logic work? I'm quite sure when stock, A4 and M6 fbody LS1 cars all run similar ets with most variances occurring in the trap speeds? Either way though, thanks for sharing op.
its in the gearing. the extra gears do help out to make a difference between ROLL racing a4's and m6's.

A4 looks like... 3.06 1.62 1.00 0.70
M6 looks like... 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 0.74 0.5
keep in mind the manual is going to have a 3.42 rear where the auto will have typically a 2.73 or a 3.23 (another disadvantage)

you can clearly see that the m6 has the advantage going from 2nd through even 5th gear. its a pretty common understanding that stock m6 cars should take out stock a4 cars roll racing.

so back to the topic... if the auto was inching by, the same car should have pulled decently if it had an M6. i agree maybe it would not have RAPED, but compared to inching by, i'd expect more pulling from the m6. i'll be careful when using the R word in the kill section from now on.
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
its in the gearing. the extra gears do help out to make a difference between ROLL racing a4's and m6's.

A4 looks like... 3.06 1.62 1.00 0.70
M6 looks like... 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 0.74 0.5
keep in mind the manual is going to have a 3.42 rear where the auto will have typically a 2.73 or a 3.23 (another disadvantage)

you can clearly see that the m6 has the advantage going from 2nd through even 5th gear. its a pretty common understanding that stock m6 cars should take out stock a4 cars roll racing.

so back to the topic... if the auto was inching by, the same car should have pulled decently if it had an M6. i agree maybe it would not have RAPED, but compared to inching by, i'd expect more pulling from the m6. i'll be careful when using the R word in the kill section from now on.
Sorry bro...just going by what I've seen posted from stock GXPs... my junk ran hard bone stock and still only posted a 108mph trap... the GXPs I've seen are posting higher traps and I would expect to get served by one from a roll on.
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Nice kill OP. LOVE the new GXP. Might be my next car someday.

Originally Posted by Formula-T/A
Nice run. Guy's on the G8 board seem to think stock G8 GT's are faster than stock f-bodies.
Keep dreaming lol
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See for yourself lol

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16324
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Originally Posted by Formula-T/A
That's funny

and I'm sure that happened, but I wouldn't think it's the norm
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Yeah but it seems to happen alot on that forum. It gets better lol

SRT8 http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11972

CAMMED GTO http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6785

VETTE http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13447
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Damn! i wish i had a new GXP. Possibly in the future tho.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
OP posted about a roll race... ET means very little here....
That's a good point


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