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07-05-2009, 11:16 PM
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The 370's I've seen at our local track have been running about 14.0's a couple ran some 13.8 times.
Torque converter (a good one) will make a huge difference, ask me how I know, I'm on my fifth one.
Torque converter (a good one) will make a huge difference, ask me how I know, I'm on my fifth one.
07-05-2009, 11:19 PM
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As far as comparing a C5Z06 to a 370Z... a car that's 6+ years older than a brand new car is cheaper and delivers better bang for your buck... who would have thunk it. Let's all go buy one so we can drive the same thing. Except that it's out of warranty, has miles on the body, drivetrain, and interior, and can't match some of the creature comfort features available on a car like the 370Z. I'm a Chevy guy, but the apples to oranges comparisons are lame. I'm not saying the 370Z is better, but comparing used prices vs. new prices is one of the dumbest things that I always see on here.
better ride, more comfortable.. who the hell cares about "creature comforts".. A/C geat radio power... thats all you need.. everything else is for a.. wait for it, wait for it.... "status symbol" and that my friend is the biggest load of bull **** ive ever heard.. but it makes the people who spend 30+k for a 13 second and slower car sleep better at night..
im sure if we could all go buy one.. most of us would, including you.
07-05-2009, 11:43 PM
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07-06-2009, 01:33 AM
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As far as comparing a C5Z06 to a 370Z... a car that's 6+ years older than a brand new car is cheaper and delivers better bang for your buck... who would have thunk it. Let's all go buy one so we can drive the same thing. Except that it's out of warranty, has miles on the body, drivetrain, and interior, and can't match some of the creature comfort features available on a car like the 370Z. I'm a Chevy guy, but the apples to oranges comparisons are lame. I'm not saying the 370Z is better, but comparing used prices vs. new prices is one of the dumbest things that I always see on here.
If we really wanna do a new car vs new car comparison, let's line a 370z up next to a new m6 2ss camaro. Or maybe even a g8 gxp. Hell even a g8 gt with just a tune could outrun the 370.
They are all nice cars, and I will admit I think nissan did a good job with the 370, but my 8 year old car is quicker than a stock 370, and I paid 8900$ for it and it is perfectly comfortable to me, except for the occasional squeak or rattle.
One more thing, as soon as you start modding your car, you void your warranty anyway, so who gives a **** about a warranty, do any of us buy cars like this to just leave them bone stock until the warranty runs out in 5 years or whatever they are giving now days.
For comparison's sake, I bought a 2007 g5
, about a month after they started selling them in the states. It is comfortable, has a great ride to it, nice sound system, and all those little "creature comforts" that I could option it with. I had it for a year before I got my 01 z, and I have never looked back.I guess it's just a matter of personal opinion.
07-06-2009, 01:57 AM
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Actually no i'm not kidding. What were your mods when you did the intake swap? From what i've seen LS6 intakes on stock or bolt-on motors are typically worth about 10rwhp. We did a before and aft on my '99 FRC vette when it was in "bolt-on status" and 10.2rwhp was the result. A few other examples showed similar results. What I was indicating is that the extra few hundred dollars spent for roughly 10rwhp is not necessary to pull a 370Z. Full exhaust, lid and tune should do the job. True more horsepower is always good, but if that's the case why not the O.P. just go all out and add heads + cam and all the other goodies while he's at it.
the instant you do heads cam your risking tranny and rearend, so now your give or take $5000 into it and completely changed the car in most ways. This guy seems to want to not let this happen again but im guessing doesnt want to spend his retirement to make sure. go with what i posted before but if you dont port the Trottle Body at least bypass the coolant passage on the bottom of the TB.
07-06-2009, 03:59 AM
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For comparison's sake, I bought a 2007 g5 , about a month after they started selling them in the states. It is comfortable, has a great ride to it, nice sound system, and all those little "creature comforts" that I could option it with. I had it for a year before I got my 01 z, and I have never looked back.
I guess it's just a matter of personal opinion.
, about a month after they started selling them in the states. It is comfortable, has a great ride to it, nice sound system, and all those little "creature comforts" that I could option it with. I had it for a year before I got my 01 z, and I have never looked back.I guess it's just a matter of personal opinion.
07-06-2009, 04:08 AM
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they arent in the same ball park.. even comparing new prices to new prices.. the C5Z is all arouna better buy...
better ride, more comfortable.. who the hell cares about "creature comforts".. A/C geat radio power... thats all you need.. everything else is for a.. wait for it, wait for it.... "status symbol" and that my friend is the biggest load of bull **** ive ever heard.. but it makes the people who spend 30+k for a 13 second and slower car sleep better at night..
im sure if we could all go buy one.. most of us would, including you.
better ride, more comfortable.. who the hell cares about "creature comforts".. A/C geat radio power... thats all you need.. everything else is for a.. wait for it, wait for it.... "status symbol" and that my friend is the biggest load of bull **** ive ever heard.. but it makes the people who spend 30+k for a 13 second and slower car sleep better at night..
im sure if we could all go buy one.. most of us would, including you.
And as for anything other than AC/heat/radio/power being status symbol stuff, that's bullshit. Some stuff like heated cup holders and rain sense wipers are a bit excessive, but DVD, Nav, steering wheel controls, and blue tooth are nice features that a lot of people get tons of use out of.
People who spend 30K+ for a 370Z aren't trying to rationalize why their car is "better" than an f-body that's twice as fast... at least I hope they're not. Every car has its own appeal, and fortunately we all have unique tastes.
07-06-2009, 04:22 AM
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+2 on getting the right gear. and yeah on the converter, i own it lol. from my expirence the converter helps like nothing else from a dig but at any roll above 30 mph it does help but not much. After paying almost 900 bucks for a top of the line converter im saying other mods will be much more cost effective FOR THE OP. come on lemons your a smart ****** you knew that
so 10 whp for 300 bucks for intake, 50 for intake and tb gasket, and an hour install time not worth it? Ummmmmm ok.
the instant you do heads cam your risking tranny and rearend, so now your give or take $5000 into it and completely changed the car in most ways. This guy seems to want to not let this happen again but im guessing doesnt want to spend his retirement to make sure...
so 10 whp for 300 bucks for intake, 50 for intake and tb gasket, and an hour install time not worth it? Ummmmmm ok.
the instant you do heads cam your risking tranny and rearend, so now your give or take $5000 into it and completely changed the car in most ways. This guy seems to want to not let this happen again but im guessing doesnt want to spend his retirement to make sure...
07-06-2009, 12:18 PM
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I would guess that near stock A4 LS1 would account for about .01% of the members on this board. So, I guess not many people really need to worry. Of those that fit the category, maybe a quarter would actually bother racing someone.
07-06-2009, 12:39 PM
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As far as comparing a C5Z06 to a 370Z... a car that's 6+ years older than a brand new car is cheaper and delivers better bang for your buck... who would have thunk it. Let's all go buy one so we can drive the same thing. Except that it's out of warranty, has miles on the body, drivetrain, and interior, and can't match some of the creature comfort features available on a car like the 370Z. I'm a Chevy guy, but the apples to oranges comparisons are lame. I'm not saying the 370Z is better, but comparing used prices vs. new prices is one of the dumbest things that I always see on here.
Nice death OP. Mod up and find that Z again.
07-06-2009, 03:03 PM
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exactly like i said.. Ive seen some at the track and the BEST ive seen was like a 13.6/ 13.7 WITH MULTIPLE RUNS.. ive seen a worse of like 14.3
07-06-2009, 09:49 PM
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lol i was bone stock till about a week ago and i raced nearly anyone willing.... i enjoyed stomping brand new stangs and various modded cars then honestly telling them i was bone stock (even the muffler lol). but with many cars made now running 13's i'm finally stepping up my game
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07-07-2009, 02:28 AM
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+2 on getting the right gear. and yeah on the converter, i own it lol. from my expirence the converter helps like nothing else from a dig but at any roll above 30 mph it does help but not much. After paying almost 900 bucks for a top of the line converter im saying other mods will be much more cost effective FOR THE OP. come on lemons your a smart ****** you knew that
so 10 whp for 300 bucks for intake, 50 for intake and tb gasket, and an hour install time not worth it? Ummmmmm ok.
the instant you do heads cam your risking tranny and rearend, so now your give or take $5000 into it and completely changed the car in most ways. This guy seems to want to not let this happen again but im guessing doesnt want to spend his retirement to make sure. go with what i posted before but if you dont port the Trottle Body at least bypass the coolant passage on the bottom of the TB.
so 10 whp for 300 bucks for intake, 50 for intake and tb gasket, and an hour install time not worth it? Ummmmmm ok.
the instant you do heads cam your risking tranny and rearend, so now your give or take $5000 into it and completely changed the car in most ways. This guy seems to want to not let this happen again but im guessing doesnt want to spend his retirement to make sure. go with what i posted before but if you dont port the Trottle Body at least bypass the coolant passage on the bottom of the TB.
what kind of converter do you have.. str? mine helped out TONS froma roll.. of course more from a dig.. but REALLY woke it up from a roll also..
If I wanted a C5Z06, I would buy one. I don't want one. Assuming that they're going for 20K like one poster stated, I'm sure most of us could afford one too.
And as for anything other than AC/heat/radio/power being status symbol stuff, that's bullshit. Some stuff like heated cup holders and rain sense wipers are a bit excessive, but DVD, Nav, steering wheel controls, and blue tooth are nice features that a lot of people get tons of use out of.
People who spend 30K+ for a 370Z aren't trying to rationalize why their car is "better" than an f-body that's twice as fast... at least I hope they're not. Every car has its own appeal, and fortunately we all have unique tastes.
And as for anything other than AC/heat/radio/power being status symbol stuff, that's bullshit. Some stuff like heated cup holders and rain sense wipers are a bit excessive, but DVD, Nav, steering wheel controls, and blue tooth are nice features that a lot of people get tons of use out of.
People who spend 30K+ for a 370Z aren't trying to rationalize why their car is "better" than an f-body that's twice as fast... at least I hope they're not. Every car has its own appeal, and fortunately we all have unique tastes.
i just had a buddy get an 03 quicksilver 1 owner with 50k miles.. paid 20.5 or 21k... cant remember exact dollar amount..
24-26k is considered a more expensive one right now..
im not a fan of any of the other features..
go spend a few days on a 350 forum and see what they think of their cars.. its comical..
