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Old 08-26-2009, 10:22 AM
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Lol... Got to love its when guys do nothing but read and watch youtube videos and tell you that your wrong when they don't do much racing themselves nor have a bike. Then go off topic about other things
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I've beeninto bikes for a good 5 years and if a rider cant trap at the very least 125 on a 600 they should be shot. When I was a squid I took my cousins 03 636 to the track with maybe 500 miles under my belt. I only got 3 runs in that night and my best was a 11.2@128 with a slow 2.0 60; because I was scared to flip the bike on the launch. Bikes have gotten faster so 130 is easily down with a 600 and for the people who say go from a roll are stupid. Bikes are garbage from a dig unless they are stretched, strapped, or have some sort of anti wheelie help and most pull up top like no ones business.

Your average 600 picks up 25-30MPH in the back half of the track, maybe im not that educated but that seems like it has plenty of power from a roll and 100+
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Wow, well I've got another race lined up with an 07 R6 with mods. He didn't believe I outran an 09 R6, so he started talking ****. Oh and I forgot all about posting the vid of the first race. I gotta get it off my computer at the house and put it on a thumb drive.

Anyways, another video will be coming of this race. Also 600's definitely are not slow guys, there just not un-beatable. After a 100mph my car steadily pulled that 09 R6. Not for sure why, all I know is from a real world experience. No magazine can will tell you that.
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Originally Posted by bjamick
Wow, well I've got another race lined up with an 07 R6 with mods. He didn't believe I outran an 09 R6, so he started talking ****. Oh and I forgot all about posting the vid of the first race. I gotta get it off my computer at the house and put it on a thumb drive.

Anyways, another video will be coming of this race. Also 600's definitely are not slow guys, there just not un-beatable. After a 100mph my car steadily pulled that 09 R6. Not for sure why, all I know is from a real world experience. No magazine can will tell you that.
Yep I just posted my kill on a 09 Ninja 636. After 100 especially I pulled on him pretty hard. My story is a couple threads down. Nice kill!
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Originally Posted by DenniSTi
A 2006 R6 will do 62-125 in. under 7 seconds.

Here are some reference numbers of 60-130mph:


*4.15 - 900+ rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, 30 psi, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
4.8 - 900 rwhp Supra (88GT47, TH400, no NOS, drag radials)
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons, header,airbox,cams
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
8.6 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
8.9 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
12.2 - Porsche 996TT

putting down 800+rwhp/800+rwtq.

We are talking about a car that has more than double the amount of power a C6 Z06 puts to the ground
That list is a load of ****. And when did C6 Z's start putting down less than 400 to the wheels?
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I have had a 500whp STi that used to stomp on X50 package 996s and could hang with 600s, and now I have a K7 750. The 750 is so much faster than a 600 (which I've also owned) and has been established hundreds of times on the internet that you need a lot closer to 750hp to hang with a 750. Your car is quick no doubt but not powerful enough. The 750 has all the usable power and lightness of a 600 with the midrange torque and top end of a 1000. You can't underestimate a 750 like a 600.
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Originally Posted by DenniSTi
I have had a 500whp STi that used to stomp on X50 package 996s and could hang with 600s, and now I have a K7 750. The 750 is so much faster than a 600 (which I've also owned) and has been established hundreds of times on the internet that you need a lot closer to 750hp to hang with a 750. Your car is quick no doubt but not powerful enough. The 750 has all the usable power and lightness of a 600 with the midrange torque and top end of a 1000. You can't underestimate a 750 like a 600.
get over it dude
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Originally Posted by AWD_Launch
I've beeninto bikes for a good 5 years and if a rider cant trap at the very least 125 on a 600 they should be shot. When I was a squid I took my cousins 03 636 to the track with maybe 500 miles under my belt. I only got 3 runs in that night and my best was a 11.2@128 with a slow 2.0 60; because I was scared to flip the bike on the launch. Bikes have gotten faster so 130 is easily down with a 600 and for the people who say go from a roll are stupid. Bikes are garbage from a dig unless they are stretched, strapped, or have some sort of anti wheelie help and most pull up top like no ones business.

Your average 600 picks up 25-30MPH in the back half of the track, maybe im not that educated but that seems like it has plenty of power from a roll and 100+
It might as well be fact that most races with 600s are either one from a dig in the 1/8 mile.. or from a 40-50roll and going over a 100mph with the 600 getting pulled on the top end.. Bikes have HORRIBLE aero-dynamics, this is the reason they get pulled..

I would almost put money on it that I have raced more bikes (especially 600s) than anyone in this thread. I have done this with two separate cars, both on motor, neither any where near what some of you make it out to be to beat a 600.
I have also owned an F4i and a 954RR.. F4i had exhaust and the 954 had sprockets full exhaust filter.. I can't count how many bikes I raced.. I raced several cars with both of them also..
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people who say go from a roll are stupid.
maybe im not that educated but that seems like it has plenty of power from a roll and 100+
Make up your mind. Are we stupid or are you uneducated?
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Originally Posted by DenniSTi
I have had a 500whp STi that used to stomp on X50 package 996s and could hang with 600s, and now I have a K7 750. The 750 is so much faster than a 600 (which I've also owned) and has been established hundreds of times on the internet that you need a lot closer to 750hp to hang with a 750. Your car is quick no doubt but not powerful enough. The 750 has all the usable power and lightness of a 600 with the midrange torque and top end of a 1000. You can't underestimate a 750 like a 600.
When I had my 600RR I rode with a couple 750's and they aren't as fast as you make them out to be. I also rode with one a couple weeks ago on my 1000 and they don't have NEAR the top end that this bike has. As for a 600 against a car, it's not as hard as you make it out to be. I have beaten a couple with a 100 shot and stayed damn close to several of them N/A, and I'm just a bolt-on car...
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^^^^^ and i was right there with him in my car and I'm just bolt-ons. Pulled a few cars on a 600 from a 50 roll with just a 75 shot with shitty pressure.
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UPDATE: Finally here is the video, granted it is horrible. You can see the start and hear some commentary lmao.

http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...t=101_0197.flv
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Cool vid
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WOW...I dont think any of you guys have even tried racing bikes. I have raced a couple, and gotten beaten by some, but won the majority. My car puts down right at 500 to the wheels on motor, and whatever shot im running. I can pull 600's pretty easy on motor. Last one I raced was a newer model gsxr600, I put about 3 cars on him from 30mph-top of 4th, he never started pulling back. I raced a gsxr1000 that was slammed and stretched, power commander, and full exhaust. 2nd gear roll-mid way 5th I put about 2 cars on it and it never started pulling me. That was on a 150 shot. Raced another stock 1000 the other day on motor(didnt have the bottle with me) and he slowly pulled me from 1st gear roll to top of 4th he had maybe 2 cars. He was a bigger guy(maybe 250lbs). Bikes arent unbeatable by any means, how about you guys grow some ***** and get out there and try it for yourself?
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I raced my buddy on his 07 CBR600 with i think it was just an exhaust, he beat me from a 40 roll by a car length and hes a VERY aggressive rider. Raced my buddy on a modded 09 R1 from a dig he pulled only a couple cars till we had to let off (but he was new to the bike).. its all relative to the rider most of the time IMO
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
how about you guys grow some ***** and get out there and try it for yourself?
Get em! LOL! I guess I need to try a small bike after my car is tuned and sprayed again.

Yo Bjamick looks like you guys got some racing going on out there.... is that in trussville? Me and few friends are looking to spread our horizons here soon.
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I will say this.. just gives an idea of how much the rider matters...

friend of mine raced another guy we know on an F4i..
buddiess mods---- full bolt on H/C ls1
buddies bike--- bone stock 05? f4i

me and the EX were in my buddies car... 35-115 or so the bike pulled about 1/2 car to 100 and then we started coming back around him.. let off and we were nose to nose..
same outcome 3 races.. buddy spun all 3 times

fast foward a few months later.. same car but now has a better tune and drag radials with just the ex in his car..
my bike had been wrecked and i couldnt hardly shift worst a ****..
from 40-135 (thats when i let off dont know how fast he was going) i pulled around 5 on him and he wasnt coming back fast at all, inching up on me but not coming around..
the next race i jumped HARD from 50mph and shut it down around 120 with a a good distance between us..
my bikes mods---- 02 f4i slip on exhaust

the other guys f4i SHOULD HAVE been faster but i clearly would have walked all over his bike.. the rider makes a HUUUUUUUGE difference.. people think its soooo easy to race a bike in a straight line to its full potential but it isnt as easy as they think...

also.. there is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between a 600 and a 1000 PROPERLY ridden.. anybody who is dead even with a 1000 with anything under 7-800rwhp is keeping up with the rider, not the bike..
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^^^ thank you lemons!
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Originally Posted by sujomatt
^^^ thank you lemons!
i figured that night help a few people understand how much of a difference the rider can make.. i have beat a LOT of bikes that i "shouldnt" beat on my f4i and on my 954RR..
all from a 30+ roll so there was no launching factored in, just 1st gear rolls!
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
I raced a gsxr1000 that was slammed and stretched, power commander, and full exhaust. 2nd gear roll-mid way 5th I put about 2 cars on it and it never started pulling me. That was on a 150 shot.
That guy should have been pulled off his bike and beat with his own helmet.

Originally Posted by lemons12
anybody who is dead even with a 1000 with anything under 7-800rwhp is keeping up with the rider, not the bike..



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