2004 Ion Redline S/C vs 2002 camaro SS Vid*
08-26-2009, 02:20 AM
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theres still ALOT more i can do. i have a mid lenth header now for top end power and am running 60lbs injectors. I am waiting on a 2.5 pulley should be making around 18lbs of boost with it. i might even do a stage one head from ZZP. check this this LSJ out
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ws1.php?id=193
POS? i wouldnt call the LSJ or LNF a POS... lots of power can be made from both motors... i mean i started of with 205hp crank now am making over 270WHP+ with a few bolt ons
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08-26-2009, 11:24 AM
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i wouldnt call it an "LS based" motor at all. lets see, it has more than 1 cam, 4 less cylinders, etc. you get the point. it has LS in the name, thats all.
im assuming the LNF is the SS/TC motor, so no that isnt a pos. youre motor isnt all that stout though. anything with a blower/turbo can be made faster with very little mods. i wouldnt call a car putting ~205 stock to the wheels with a blower very impressive, but i wouldnt call it weak either. and that part i bolded, you dont seem to know your own motor very well. i thought it was well know that whatever GM says about the LSJ (as in crank hp) is actually what it makes at the wheels?
that link lists that LSJ as this:
Tim dyno's 367WHP with stock M62 blower on new ZZP stroker motor
ZZP 2.3L stroker bottom end w/ 11:1 compression
ZZP electric water pump
ZZP single pass IC
ZZP 15 row single pass HE
ZZP 2.6" modular pulley system
ZZP LS4 TB
ZZP intake
ZZP mid-length header/downpipe 1.75" stainless
80# injectors
ZZP fuel pump rewire
E85 fuel
ZZP stage 1 ported head with 78 lb valve springs
Comp cams custom ZZP camshafts
ZZP AC delete
ZZP stage 4 clutch
a ported head, cammed, stroker, full bolt on car basically. i would hope it could pick up 160whp. LSx motors will do that easily, even with no blower.
i know this probably came off as me being a dick, but im having a shitty day & im just trying to get a few points across. sorry in advance. no harm meant.
theres still ALOT more i can do. i have a mid lenth header now for top end power and am running 60lbs injectors. I am waiting on a 2.5 pulley should be making around 18lbs of boost with it. i might even do a stage one header from ZZP. check this this LSJ out
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ws1.php?id=193
POS? i wouldnt call the LSJ or LNF a POS... lots of power can be made from both motors... i mean i started of with 205hp crank now am making over 270WHP+ with a few bolt ons
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ws1.php?id=193
POS? i wouldnt call the LSJ or LNF a POS... lots of power can be made from both motors... i mean i started of with 205hp crank now am making over 270WHP+ with a few bolt ons
that link lists that LSJ as this:
Tim dyno's 367WHP with stock M62 blower on new ZZP stroker motor
ZZP 2.3L stroker bottom end w/ 11:1 compression
ZZP electric water pump
ZZP single pass IC
ZZP 15 row single pass HE
ZZP 2.6" modular pulley system
ZZP LS4 TB
ZZP intake
ZZP mid-length header/downpipe 1.75" stainless
80# injectors
ZZP fuel pump rewire
E85 fuel
ZZP stage 1 ported head with 78 lb valve springs
Comp cams custom ZZP camshafts
ZZP AC delete
ZZP stage 4 clutch
a ported head, cammed, stroker, full bolt on car basically. i would hope it could pick up 160whp. LSx motors will do that easily, even with no blower.
i know this probably came off as me being a dick, but im having a shitty day & im just trying to get a few points across. sorry in advance. no harm meant.
08-26-2009, 11:48 AM
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theres still ALOT more i can do. i have a mid lenth header now for top end power and am running 60lbs injectors. I am waiting on a 2.5 pulley should be making around 18lbs of boost with it. i might even do a stage one head from ZZP. check this this LSJ out
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ws1.php?id=193
POS? i wouldnt call the LSJ or LNF a POS... lots of power can be made from both motors... i mean i started of with 205hp crank now am making over 270WHP+ with a few bolt ons
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ws1.php?id=193
POS? i wouldnt call the LSJ or LNF a POS... lots of power can be made from both motors... i mean i started of with 205hp crank now am making over 270WHP+ with a few bolt ons
so we will see
08-26-2009, 11:55 AM
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Good kill! Those Ion redlines are badass little cars. I always thought they looked better than the Cobalt SS, but I don't like the center gauges.
Not understanding the hatred they are getting on here. I don't recall the Cobalt getting shitted on like this and it's the same car...
Not understanding the hatred they are getting on here. I don't recall the Cobalt getting shitted on like this and it's the same car...
08-26-2009, 11:58 AM
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i wouldnt call it an "LS based" motor at all. lets see, it has more than 1 cam, 4 less cylinders, etc. you get the point. it has LS in the name, thats all.
im assuming the LNF is the SS/TC motor, so no that isnt a pos. youre motor isnt all that stout though. anything with a blower/turbo can be made faster with very little mods. i wouldnt call a car putting ~205 stock to the wheels with a blower very impressive, but i wouldnt call it weak either. and that part i bolded, you dont seem to know your own motor very well. i thought it was well know that whatever GM says about the LSJ (as in crank hp) is actually what it makes at the wheels?
that link lists that LSJ as this:
Tim dyno's 367WHP with stock M62 blower on new ZZP stroker motor
ZZP 2.3L stroker bottom end w/ 11:1 compression
ZZP electric water pump
ZZP single pass IC
ZZP 15 row single pass HE
ZZP 2.6" modular pulley system
ZZP LS4 TB
ZZP intake
ZZP mid-length header/downpipe 1.75" stainless
80# injectors
ZZP fuel pump rewire
E85 fuel
ZZP stage 1 ported head with 78 lb valve springs
Comp cams custom ZZP camshafts
ZZP AC delete
ZZP stage 4 clutch
a ported head, cammed, stroker, full bolt on car basically. i would hope it could pick up 160whp. LSx motors will do that easily, even with no blower.
i know this probably came off as me being a dick, but im having a shitty day & im just trying to get a few points across. sorry in advance. no harm meant.
im assuming the LNF is the SS/TC motor, so no that isnt a pos. youre motor isnt all that stout though. anything with a blower/turbo can be made faster with very little mods. i wouldnt call a car putting ~205 stock to the wheels with a blower very impressive, but i wouldnt call it weak either. and that part i bolded, you dont seem to know your own motor very well. i thought it was well know that whatever GM says about the LSJ (as in crank hp) is actually what it makes at the wheels?
that link lists that LSJ as this:
Tim dyno's 367WHP with stock M62 blower on new ZZP stroker motor
ZZP 2.3L stroker bottom end w/ 11:1 compression
ZZP electric water pump
ZZP single pass IC
ZZP 15 row single pass HE
ZZP 2.6" modular pulley system
ZZP LS4 TB
ZZP intake
ZZP mid-length header/downpipe 1.75" stainless
80# injectors
ZZP fuel pump rewire
E85 fuel
ZZP stage 1 ported head with 78 lb valve springs
Comp cams custom ZZP camshafts
ZZP AC delete
ZZP stage 4 clutch
a ported head, cammed, stroker, full bolt on car basically. i would hope it could pick up 160whp. LSx motors will do that easily, even with no blower.
i know this probably came off as me being a dick, but im having a shitty day & im just trying to get a few points across. sorry in advance. no harm meant.
BTW this is a 114MPH traping car but it only runs high 13's lol
08-26-2009, 02:54 PM
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wow, yes i know about my motor the "LS" thing was a joke,i guess you didnt get it, ya i know its prob about 205 to the wheels stock. some put down even more stock. no one said anything about 205WHP being impressive. i just thought it would be cool to try something diffrent,i bought my ion for 12grand 2 years ago i could of bought a LS1 fbody but i didnt.
BTW this is a 114MPH traping car but it only runs high 13's lol
BTW this is a 114MPH traping car but it only runs high 13's lol
i say try some suspension first. thats a pretty good trap if you can get it to the ground. DRs should be enough if you set up the suspension right.
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08-26-2009, 06:07 PM
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ya my clucth was bad, and the trans was going out, and thats how slow i shift at the track, ill try to find the 114 time slip i have a 113MPH one here but its only a 13.8
the camaro was shifting alot faster then me and it still lost. i do know how to drive a stick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UHBfywcZGo
i am driving the camaro in this video, i would of power shifted 4th gear but it was like i was hitting a brick wall the owner of the car has up graded to an LS7 clutch and it shifts much better now
