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Old 08-28-2009, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WSsick
eh, i dont know about that one. use this for refrence:
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thats the RECORD @ 134 (with a 5000 stall no less). 142 is damn near 8s. 129 is for sure deep 10s. id say 115-125 is a a good trap for a H/C, leaves room big or small setups, susp & rear differences, and m6 or a4.
Kinda hard to use that for reference, therefore my statement stands!
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wow umm sorry about that mess of **** i posted. i fixed it now in my original post. havent posted a vid from youtube in a while, and esp since we can embed them here now, so i tried the embedded on and obviously that sucked. haha

heres the vid if you dont wanna go back a page and look: (im on 40 posts/page mode so idk where yours are at)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bFWPrSEJnI


its a little late for me. see yall in the morning, ill be back to throw up plenty more flags
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Originally Posted by WSsick
wow umm sorry about that mess of **** i posted. i fixed it now in my original post. havent posted a vid from youtube in a while, and esp since we can embed them here now, so i tried the embedded on and obviously that sucked. haha

heres the vid if you dont wanna go back a page and look: (im on 40 posts/page mode so idk where yours are at)

its a little late for me. see yall in the morning, ill be back to throw up plenty more flags
thats my point... the car in the vid is stock except a lid/catback...
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Originally Posted by lemons12
thats my point... the car in the vid is stock except a lid/catback...

looks pretty stock to me
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My Jetta trapped at 146 with a K&N airfilter. Really, it's true. All I did was add tire pressure to reduce rolling resistence. It's the 'norm'.
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Don't get me wrong lemons, I'm on your side about this race. I am doubting that 114mph trap as well.

I was saying/posting that vid to dispute your claim of the "norm" being 129-142 for a h/c fbod.
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I lol'd at work. lol'd hard. FWD burn outs are hilarious. Its like watching someone try to run on their hands.

Thats all. =]
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Originally Posted by Bugsy
That's basically the point that should be appreciated by readers of this thread. I think the OP probably realizes that if he engages in a modfest versus an LSX-powered vehicle, he's dead, pure and simple. That isn't the issue. I, for one, am impressed with those cars, "for what they are," and I'm glad GM has a couple 4-bangers to compete with the imports and Skittles of the world.
Well said, I agree with him. At least you will dominate all other 4 bangers and the occational 6, however, LSs are just going to faceroll you.
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Originally Posted by Vik
Well said, I agree with him. At least you will dominate all other 4 bangers and the occational 6, however, LSs are just going to faceroll you.


there Are some pretty fast 4 bangers around here... am going to the track sat if i finish my car in time wish me luck
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Is it just me or does it look like the SS pulled back almost half the distance at the end?

I regular cobaltss.net and I can't remember seeing a stock blower (with out spray) run higher then a 111 trap.

I have seen going to far in the smaller pulley direction is bad too and doesn't do anyhting for power since it is maxed out.

OP, are you ported?

I pulled 2 cars on a modded stage 2 cobaltss (270+ whp) with my stock GTO many times from 20-110 and 40-120. (LS2 M6)

A stock TC can't trap 112 (I think i saw someone post that).

A tuned and fully bolted TC can trap 114 (highest I have seen) and they have over 330whp though and are more efficient.

Some of this sounds far fetched, and the video is shakey and I swear I see the SS pulling back in the big end which always happens above a 100 with a LS motor versus the cobalts/Ion's (LS motors just have the bigger lungs and better non-economy car gearing).

That's my 2 cents...

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Originally Posted by WSsick
Don't get me wrong lemons, I'm on your side about this race. I am doubting that 114mph trap as well.

I was saying/posting that vid to dispute your claim of the "norm" being 129-142 for a h/c fbod.
I have not been serious for probably the past 2-3 pages in this thread.

Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
there Are some pretty fast 4 bangers around here... am going to the track sat if i finish my car in time wish me luck
Keep us updated! Post times in this thread!
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Originally Posted by amxguy1970

Some of this sounds far fetched, and the video is shakey and I swear I see the SS pulling back in the big end which always happens above a 100 with a LS motor versus the cobalts/Ion's (LS motors just have the bigger lungs and better non-economy car gearing).

That's my 2 cents...

Tyler
i just watched it again. and yes, on the top of 3rd gear he starts pulling it back in fairly fast. in 4th he would have gotten him sucked back in and passed by the time he hit 115
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Originally Posted by amxguy1970
Is it just me or does it look like the SS pulled back almost half the distance at the end?

I regular cobaltss.net and I can't remember seeing a stock blower (with out spray) run higher then a 111 trap.

I have seen going to far in the smaller pulley direction is bad too and doesn't do anyhting for power since it is maxed out.

OP, are you ported?

I pulled 2 cars on a modded stage 2 cobaltss (270+ whp) with my stock GTO many times from 20-110 and 40-120. (LS2 M6)

A stock TC can't trap 112 (I think i saw someone post that).

A tuned and fully bolted TC can trap 114 (highest I have seen) and they have over 330whp though and are more efficient.

Some of this sounds far fetched, and the video is shakey and I swear I see the SS pulling back in the big end which always happens above a 100 with a LS motor versus the cobalts/Ion's (LS motors just have the bigger lungs and better non-economy car gearing).

That's my 2 cents...

Tyler

ok you got me! do you really think a normal M62 car will trap that high haha

i have a rare cobalt time attack blower, but still only thing diffrent are the rotors in the blower. the case is the same...... So running a smaller pulley wont really hurt me as much as a normal m62 car

SO YES THE CAR DID TRAP 114

the coated header is the new one thats going on today..... i hope it makes a diffrence. that shorty is really choking the car up top. you can see the size diffrence, and now the car is going to be catless
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Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
there Are some pretty fast 4 bangers around here... am going to the track sat if i finish my car in time wish me luck
bring a camera and make sure you keep you timeslip! thatll put an end to this thread.

Originally Posted by lemons12
I have not been serious for probably the past 2-3 pages in this thread.
haha my bad. sarcasm must have been lost throug the interwebz.
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Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
ok you got me! do you really think a normal M62 car will trap that high haha

i have a rare cobalt time attack blower, but still only thing diffrent are the rotors in the blower. the case is the same...... So running a smaller pulley wont really hurt me as much as a normal m62 car

SO YES THE CAR DID TRAP 114

the coated header is the new one thats going on today..... i hope it makes a diffrence. that shorty is really choking the car up top. you can see the size diffrence, and now the car is going to be catless
So, what you are saying is I have been right from the get go?

Originally Posted by WSsick
haha my bad. sarcasm must have been lost throug the interwebz.
Its cool man!
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My buddy has a lsj that put down 285whp on a dynojet. look at the pounding in the vid my ls1 put on a regal gs that has a ported blower, vs cam, 3.2 pulley. The lsj and the gs were a close race, the lsj got him by 2 cars to 120. Hell my buddy's stock g8 gt pulls the lsj up top. I need to put my waders on because the **** is getting deep in this thread lol!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqxO...layer_embedded

Here is a vid of the 285whp ion racing a 115-117 trap evo.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...-vs_680609.htm

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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
My buddy has a lsj that put down 285whp on a dynojet. look at the pounding in the vid my ls1 put on a regal gs that has a ported blower, vs cam, 3.2 pulley. The lsj and the gs were a close race, the lsj got him by 2 cars to 120. Hell my buddy's stock g8 gt pulls the lsj up top. I need to put my waders on because the **** is getting deep in this thread lol!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqxO...layer_embedded

Here is a vid of the 285whp ion racing a 115-117 trap evo.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...-vs_680609.htm
nice camaro, again, thats not my car in the video so am not going to comment on that car. I know what my car will do.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...12s_195722.htm
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Originally Posted by lemons12
So, what you are saying is I have been right from the get go?
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Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
nice camaro, again, thats not my car in the video so am not going to comment on that car. I know what my car will do.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...12s_195722.htm
Is this your car?
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Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
BTW this is a 114MPH traping car but it only runs high 13's lol
All the import guys around here tell me I can't run with them cause' they all trap 110+. Once I have 4-5 car lengths on them I shut her down and laugh.


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