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Old 09-17-2009, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Newskool Mach
NO Ride talks **** but I have to say one thing he is ALWAYS ready to back it up. I'm sure if your buddy wins he will be humble. And yes there are alot of fast LSX cars at the track down here. My buddies Formula goes 9's. Not too many on the street though. A few Vettes but I have yet to see a fast F-body on the steet here. I am not saying they are not here, I am saying I haven't seen one. No ride let me know when the the race goes down I will be there. If the new motor is in I will give the guy a run also.

BY the way guys 4V's love the spray. Torque numbers on a 200 shot are huge.
Should be around the beginning-mid of the month..
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Originally Posted by sleeperstang16
ive seen a bone stock MACH run a 12.9 at 106 with just DR's here in ENNIS at the motorplex
Does not compute.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:04 AM
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I no a guy that has a trans am that will run you on the street no ride. He is in tampa. If you want I can check with him to see if it is done. Last I heard was that he was making some changes. Just let me know. Oh and its all motor by the way
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Originally Posted by Newskool Mach
BY the way guys 4V's love the spray. Torque numbers on a 200 shot are huge.
Everything loves spray. All that torque is going to be difficult to hook unless
he's on a 28" slick.
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Everything loves spray. All that torque is going to be difficult to hook unless
he's on a 28" slick.
prog control makes it alot easier
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Originally Posted by unit213
Everything loves spray. All that torque is going to be difficult to hook unless
he's on a 28" slick.
That is true. If they do it on the street I hope that he doesnt try to use the slicks. Id get a mickey drag radial
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Dont Mach 1's only make 305 HP? I thought they were on par with a LS1? LS1's can make that in RWHP stock.
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Originally Posted by Eric1987
Dont Mach 1's only make 305 HP? I thought they were on par with a LS1? LS1's can make that in RWHP stock.
And your point?
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Originally Posted by Eric1987
Dont Mach 1's only make 305 HP? I thought they were on par with a LS1? LS1's can make that in RWHP stock.
In stock form, F-body M6 versus Mach M5, the LS1 has the power advantage over the Mach, but the Mach has the gearing advantage. It's basically a driver's race with a slight edge going towards the F-body----especially on the big end. But when you're talking modded cars, all that stuff goes out the window. The Machs, LS1s, and Termis all have amazing potential. Although there are other factors at work, such as mechanical knowledge and driving ability, which car will be faster basically comes down to who's willing to shell out the most cash for their project.
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Originally Posted by noride
i beg to differ because i ran a c5zo6 in my bolt on mach and was at his door until we/i let out at 4th gear it was a dig race he was stock it was dark blue and he was very impressed
Only because he blew his launch and couldn't drive.

It takes a LOT to get a Mach to trap over 110mph and, especially from a roll, has NO chance against a decently driven C5Z.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ead.php?t=2860

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Does not compute.
I also ran a 12.9 @ 106mph in my much heavier car once. 1.9 60ft and shifting did it.
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Originally Posted by sleeperstang16
ive seen a bone stock MACH run a 12.9 at 106 with just DR's here in ENNIS at the motorplex......NORIDE just stop man i have made the same mistake you are making now and thats calling out all LS cars on THE LS FORUM haha it wont end good for you cuz they are gunna set you up to race a 10 sec street car bro...the mack's are nice but they are not the fastest cars in the world that title is reserved for MY CAR HAHA
i've seen a bone stock ls1 with dr's run a 12.6

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Dont Mach 1's only make 305 HP? I thought they were on par with a LS1? LS1's can make that in RWHP stock.
they are close cars with the ls1 usually ending up on top. the ls1 has to either spin out or blow a shift pretty bad to lose.
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the real race is on foot..
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Originally Posted by noride
prog control makes it alot easier
It will still require a big drag radial with a lot of sidewall (15" wheel)
or a slick.

Personally, I would rather someone spray a 200 shot than a 100 shot.
It's much more difficult to get that power to the pavement...especially
with a manual trans. A 200 shot on a 302 cid 4V isn't really much power.
It's a lot of torque though, which will work against you IMO on the street.
Spraying a D1 is a different story though.
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Originally Posted by Skeet Skeet
Id get a mickey drag radial
If it's a 17" Mickey Thompson, he might as well run ice skates.
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Originally Posted by Eric1987
Dont Mach 1's only make 305 HP? I thought they were on par with a LS1? LS1's can make that in RWHP stock.

Originally Posted by Bugsy
In stock form, F-body M6 versus Mach M5, the LS1 has the power advantage over the Mach, but the Mach has the gearing advantage. It's basically a driver's race with a slight edge going towards the F-body----especially on the big end. But when you're talking modded cars, all that stuff goes out the window. The Machs, LS1s, and Termis all have amazing potential. Although there are other factors at work, such as mechanical knowledge and driving ability, which car will be faster basically comes down to who's willing to shell out the most cash for their project.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
It takes a LOT to get a Mach to trap over 110mph and, especially from a roll, has NO chance against a decently driven C5Z.
Might want to read his mod list.
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i've seen a bone stock ls1 with dr's run a 12.6
they are close cars with the ls1 usually ending up on top. the ls1 has to either spin out or blow a shift pretty bad to lose.
I agree with the exception of spin out, or shift 'pretty bad'. One simple short shift will do it. They are (on avg.) that close. If hte mach isn't modded with the good driver, then the LS is even further ahead on the top end.
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If it's a 17" Mickey Thompson, he might as well run ice skates.
Ice skates... that's funny.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Ice skates... that's funny.
Thanks...I'll be here all week.
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Originally Posted by Bugsy
In stock form, F-body M6 versus Mach M5, the LS1 has the power advantage over the Mach, but the Mach has the gearing advantage. It's basically a driver's race with a slight edge going towards the F-body----especially on the big end. But when you're talking modded cars, all that stuff goes out the window. The Machs, LS1s, and Termis all have amazing potential. Although there are other factors at work, such as mechanical knowledge and driving ability, which car will be faster basically comes down to who's willing to shell out the most cash for their project.
So gearing can make up for the lack of 45 horses? Does the mach 1 have 4.11s or something?
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There's more to gearing than the differential...
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Sorry guys, Mach 1's are nice and all, but I have yet to run a quick one. Wish I had the vid w/ me, but I ran a full bolt on Mach when I was pretty much stock (free mods). I won, and then ran him once more once bolt ons were done... He's geared, full exhaust, headwork (not too sure what's actually worked), weight reduction, etc etc. Once bolt ons were done on my car, it was still destruction... All this talk of 'well my mach will own you on my stroker motor with a bagillion shot of nitrous' well no **** muthafucka, you better own bolt on ls1's with that, cuz none of the big guys wanna race a little kiddy like you. Come down to burque, we have gangbang after gangbang for a cocky little **** like you. google some truestreetcars.com vids if you wanna see what's in store for a slow mach
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
There's more to gearing than the differential...
I'm not questioning because I'm tryin to be a douche I am just really curious on whats up. And what else is there? I thought the gears were in the differential which in turn effected your acceleration and top speed? Do you mean the powerband?
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