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Old 11-26-2009, 12:14 PM
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Yeah Yeah Yeah... BLAH BLAH BLAH... We all know the story.... You too have had your *** handed to you by a lil' 4 banger turbo throwaway shitbox.... Neon srt's rock for the coin. The 'balts are closing in on them fast though bang for buck.
90+% of the RWD tuff guys like you won't even line up with me at a light in my EVO (4 cyl.shitbox cost me 10grand) and I've only had one go for it... (he lost) When I put it on the two-step next to them (5500rpm) they just give up.

Just give the poster props for a hard pulling fwd econobox please...lol
oh good for you leaving on a 2 step in an awd vehicle..you better outrun them to 60 foot cause any decent 4v Cobra or lsx vehicle is gonna suck your doors off if you dont...I aint skeered. I leave the line at the strip @ 5 grand and pull the front tires spinning on drag radials..something you import boys can't do no matter how hard you try...and yes I have had my a*s handed to me by a built all to hell turbo 4cyl lightweight civic...big deal..like I said..its all relative..if I had the same money in my car I'd kill em. Btw..I've got a 1st gen neon with an srt4 swap as a daily driver so I'm not dissing 4cyl. but I don't like it when somebody post 1 video thinking a 4cyl turbo is > than a 4v stang or a lsx fbody.
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Good kill, hugger! It seems like everyone around here is buying up those Cobalts left and right! That's awesome as it's nice to see a GM that actually gets praised by more than just the people who bought them, haha.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Not to be a dick or anything, but, you're out of your ******* mind.
Notice how I said LS1 GTO the first time I referenced it. Quit acting like your GTO is fast it traps like 112 and you have money into it, plus its an LS2. Why don't you actually mod the car so you can back up your mouth?
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Originally Posted by speedshifterNC
oh good for you leaving on a 2 step in an awd vehicle..you better outrun them to 60 foot cause any decent 4v Cobra or lsx vehicle is gonna suck your doors off if you dont...I aint skeered. I leave the line at the strip @ 5 grand and pull the front tires spinning on drag radials..something you import boys can't do no matter how hard you try...and yes I have had my a*s handed to me by a built all to hell turbo 4cyl lightweight civic...big deal..like I said..its all relative..if I had the same money in my car I'd kill em. Btw..I've got a 1st gen neon with an srt4 swap as a daily driver so I'm not dissing 4cyl. but I don't like it when somebody post 1 video thinking a 4cyl turbo is > than a 4v stang or a lsx fbody.
Mach 1's are a money pit. They aren't fast unless you have TONS of cash in it.
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Originally Posted by DDS
Notice how I said LS1 GTO the first time I referenced it. Quit acting like your GTO is fast it traps like 112 and you have money into it, plus its an LS2. Why don't you actually mod the car so you can back up your mouth?
Yes pacesetter headers $350 + free tune = lots of money. My fastest trap to date is 115, and that came with a 12.2 ET. For 1-2k in an LS1 GTO you can have a solid cam only car in the 11's. Show me a SS/TC Cobalt other than what ZZP (shop car) has in the 11's.

To date not 1 Cobalt has run me down, still waiting to find one. This includes a 30r swaped SS/SC and a fully bolt on and "infiniboost" SS/TC running 27psi. All the tune only cobalts I've run get left like they're standing still, and my car is no faster than a Ls1 GTO that has a cam.

I'll stick to what I originally said, saying a Cobalt will pound GTO *** dollar for dollar is possibly the most retarded thing EVER.
You know, not to be a dick or anything...
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Yes pacesetter headers $350 + free tune = lots of money. My fastest trap to date is 115, and that came with a 12.2 ET.I CALL BS. POST UP THE SLIP. Will we be hearing any more from you??? For 1-2k in an LS1 GTO you can have a solid cam only car in the 11's. Show me a SS/TC Cobalt other than what ZZP (shop car) has in the 11's.

To date not 1 Cobalt has run me down, still waiting to find one. This includes a 30r swaped SS/SC and a fully bolt on and "infiniboost" SS/TC running 27psi. All the tune only cobalts I've run get left like they're standing still, and my car is no faster than a Ls1 GTO that has a cam.

I'll stick to what I originally said, saying a Cobalt will pound GTO *** dollar for dollar is possibly the most retarded thing EVER.
You know, not to be a dick or anything...
Let's see the proof of that 115mph@12.2.
Do you even OWN a GTO??? PONTIAC GTO NOT a Ford Probe GT....
Kids.....

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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Yes pacesetter headers $350 + free tune = lots of money. My fastest trap to date is 115, and that came with a 12.2 ET. For 1-2k in an LS1 GTO you can have a solid cam only car in the 11's. Show me a SS/TC Cobalt other than what ZZP (shop car) has in the 11's.

To date not 1 Cobalt has run me down, still waiting to find one
. This includes a 30r swaped SS/SC and a fully bolt on and "infiniboost" SS/TC running 27psi. All the tune only cobalts I've run get left like they're standing still, and my car is no faster than a Ls1 GTO that has a cam.

I'll stick to what I originally said, saying a Cobalt will pound GTO *** dollar for dollar is possibly the most retarded thing EVER.
You know, not to be a dick or anything...
Pookie came close

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKQzhXRAsk
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nice runs hugger
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thanx guys
didnt mean to start any arguments.
funny how these threads do.

i just like to share my somewhat comical run-ins.
i thought the dude pulling the nitrous bottle out was the best part but no comments on that yet!
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the nos bottle was funny, and when you said thats not gonna help you unhooked,
Old 11-27-2009, 11:55 AM
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I didn't realize those little buggers were so fast.
Old 11-27-2009, 12:29 PM
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nice write up op and good kill. These little buggers can be fast and definitely suprise people. I will say though im a bit disappointed in the aftermarket drivetrain parts. Really not much when it comes to trannys which I just shattered mine a few weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
Sure if 3-4 carlengths and walking, from a roll, with an extra 200lb passenger is close...
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I still think those LNF motors are impressive for what they are!

Going to buy my dad a Stage 2 kit for his 07 Solstice GXP w/ 8k miles for X-mas!
$455 for an increase from 260hp/260tq to 290hp/340tq
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I still think those LNF motors are impressive for what they are!

Going to buy my dad a Stage 2 kit for his 07 Solstice GXP w/ 8k miles for X-mas!
$455 for an increase from 260hp/260tq to 290hp/340tq
Amen.
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You guys are too funny with this Cobalt/GTO crap.

Nice kill, OP. I've got a few friends that have the turbo Cobalts and they are quick cars even in stock form.
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
You guys are too funny with this Cobalt/GTO crap.
What's you're opinion on the statement "Dollar for dollar a Cobalt will pound GTO ***"

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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
What's you're opinion on the statement "Dollar for dollar a Cobalt will pound GTO ***"

I would build the below GTO and ask the person stating otherwise about the Cobalt to write up a similar build sheet with new parts pricing (and sources) and compare what we both think they would run.

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2004 GTO with a $2,000 budget -

Pacesetter headers: $267.12 (LMPerformance)

Summit 3" cutout: $29.95 (Summit Racing)

AEM cold air: $269.95 (LMPerformance)

Vindicator cam: $399.99 (Vengeance Racing)

Cam install kit (springs, etc): $469.99 (Vengeance Racing)

Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials: $411.90 (Summit Racing)

Tune: Whatever's leftover since there's no set store price and we can all find cheap tuners

Weight reduction (say ~200 pounds): Free

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That's a high 11-second car with a high 11X trap, possibly quicker with a good driver.

DDS: feel free to post up a $2k build on a turbo Cobalt and we'll compare. I know very little about them so it's very possible you'll eSTOMP my 2004 GTO on the internet. I'm a reasonable guy who's willing to admit defeat if you can show how you'd do it.

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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
I would build the below GTO and ask the person stating otherwise about the Cobalt to write up a similar build sheet with new parts pricing (and sources) and compare what we both think they would run.

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2004 GTO with a $2,000 budget -

Pacesetter headers: $267.12 (LMPerformance)

Summit 3" cutout: $29.95 (Summit Racing)

AEM cold air: $269.95 (LMPerformance)

Vindicator cam: $399.99 (Vengeance Racing)

Cam install kit (springs, etc): $469.99 (Vengeance Racing)

Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials: $411.90 (Summit Racing)

Tune: Whatever's leftover since there's no set store price and we can all find cheap tuners

Weight reduction (say ~200 pounds): Free

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That's a high 11-second car with a high 11X trap and a decent driver, possibly quicker.

Good writeup, didn't think of being civil about it, just felt like stating the obvious that the statement was retarded. That setup is pretty much what I'd to too. It's a shame you put so much effort into finding legit prices and what not, the Cobalt guy was just spewing nonsense and probably won't be heard of for a rebuttle

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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I'd save the 622$ on the catback since it does basically nothing and add $350 mickeys and something else. Would be a solid 11 second car at 115+
I edited since you quoted. And I'm about to edit again.

EDIT: Done. Recheck last post by me.

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