01 C5 vs 06 GTO 6.0... how did I lose? (TURNS OUT HES NOT STOCK!!!)
12-26-2009, 02:13 PM
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Lol i ran a 14.0 at 102 my first pass in my GTO..not sure how i managed to do that. I then i backed it up with a 13.2 at 107. I hadnt even owned the car a week when i made those runs. I think it has more in it. Oh its a 06 6 speed with a cai btw.
12-26-2009, 05:31 PM
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Is it possible for someone with a LS1 GTO to run 13.4s stock? I talked to someone recently that said that they were running that stock on the 1/4. Nevermind the fact I beat them in 3 non-track dig races in my stock GT. I realize the LS1 GTO is a bit faster than my GT, but he sucked at driving it. I know sure as **** I could never run a 13.4 in my stock GT..
12-26-2009, 06:18 PM
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12-26-2009, 10:08 PM
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Is it possible for someone with a LS1 GTO to run 13.4s stock? I talked to someone recently that said that they were running that stock on the 1/4. Nevermind the fact I beat them in 3 non-track dig races in my stock GT. I realize the LS1 GTO is a bit faster than my GT, but he sucked at driving it. I know sure as **** I could never run a 13.4 in my stock GT..
You can put them about equal to an lt1 with the GTO having a bit more up top.
12-27-2009, 09:45 AM
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Is it possible for someone with a LS1 GTO to run 13.4s stock? I talked to someone recently that said that they were running that stock on the 1/4. Nevermind the fact I beat them in 3 non-track dig races in my stock GT. I realize the LS1 GTO is a bit faster than my GT, but he sucked at driving it. I know sure as **** I could never run a 13.4 in my stock GT..
12-27-2009, 04:10 PM
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If both cars were bone-stock the outcome "should" have been different. Atleast both cars should have been neck and neck, I don't see how the GTO could have pulled like the 'vette was standing still. Both cars are about even in the 1/4 mile stock for stock in A4 form, the C5 having the advantage from a roll and higher speeds. I'd be willing to bet that Goat is not bone-stock.
12-27-2009, 06:22 PM
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If both cars were bone-stock the outcome "should" have been different. Atleast both cars should have been neck and neck, I don't see how the GTO could have pulled like the 'vette was standing still. Both cars are about even in the 1/4 mile stock for stock in A4 form, the C5 having the advantage from a roll and higher speeds. I'd be willing to bet that Goat is not bone-stock.
This has been shown over and over.. The ls1 has the best advantage from a dig. The ls2 just plain makes more power, giving it an advantage up top.
They ET about the same, usually .1-.2 faster but trap around 3-4 MPH faster.
12-27-2009, 06:50 PM
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I agree completely. That ls2 just pulls up top harder than my ls1, but my ls1 will get him from the dig.
As far as vette vs camaro? I think the vette is leaps and bounds. The interior seems to be assemblem far more tight and tidy, the gauges are nice, all the bells and whistles are good, i like driving with pop ups at night (i think they look cool inside the car, not outside), It handles better, and ive got alot of compliments on it unlike the camaro used too.
Im happy, I will always miss my camaro and want death to its destroyer, but im pacified... for now
As far as vette vs camaro? I think the vette is leaps and bounds. The interior seems to be assemblem far more tight and tidy, the gauges are nice, all the bells and whistles are good, i like driving with pop ups at night (i think they look cool inside the car, not outside), It handles better, and ive got alot of compliments on it unlike the camaro used too.
Im happy, I will always miss my camaro and want death to its destroyer, but im pacified... for now
The GTO has the advantage from a roll, and the higher the race goes the more the GTO will pull.
This has been shown over and over.. The ls1 has the best advantage from a dig. The ls2 just plain makes more power, giving it an advantage up top.
They ET about the same, usually .1-.2 faster but trap around 3-4 MPH faster.
This has been shown over and over.. The ls1 has the best advantage from a dig. The ls2 just plain makes more power, giving it an advantage up top.
They ET about the same, usually .1-.2 faster but trap around 3-4 MPH faster.
12-27-2009, 07:39 PM
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The GTO has the advantage from a roll, and the higher the race goes the more the GTO will pull.
This has been shown over and over.. The ls1 has the best advantage from a dig. The ls2 just plain makes more power, giving it an advantage up top. They ET about the same, usually .1-.2 faster but trap around 3-4 MPH faster.
This has been shown over and over.. The ls1 has the best advantage from a dig. The ls2 just plain makes more power, giving it an advantage up top. They ET about the same, usually .1-.2 faster but trap around 3-4 MPH faster.
Remember, were talking an LS1 VETTE not F-body!
12-27-2009, 08:33 PM
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I agree completely. That ls2 just pulls up top harder than my ls1, but my ls1 will get him from the dig.
As far as vette vs camaro? I think the vette is leaps and bounds. The interior seems to be assemblem far more tight and tidy, the gauges are nice, all the bells and whistles are good, i like driving with pop ups at night (i think they look cool inside the car, not outside), It handles better, and ive got alot of compliments on it unlike the camaro used too.
Im happy, I will always miss my camaro and want death to its destroyer, but im pacified... for now
As far as vette vs camaro? I think the vette is leaps and bounds. The interior seems to be assemblem far more tight and tidy, the gauges are nice, all the bells and whistles are good, i like driving with pop ups at night (i think they look cool inside the car, not outside), It handles better, and ive got alot of compliments on it unlike the camaro used too.
Im happy, I will always miss my camaro and want death to its destroyer, but im pacified... for now
The interior is definitely nicer on the vette though, as well as handling and ride comfort. Anything else, my personal choice is Ws6! Doesn't change that I'm stating facts and you are stating how you "think" it should go.
The op said the GTO pulled like he was standing still.
Remember, were talking an LS1 VETTE not F-body!
I beat my fair share when my old white one was stock, and not by a fender, I pulled every one of them 1 1/2+ lengths.
On the base model C5s, "Corvette" is just that... A name. Now if we start talking Zo6s and what not, sure there is a difference. But if you buy into all the GM babel bull **** that the base model is actually faster, you have some problems. Maybe you should hang around some more street races or even the track? Not being an *** when I say that either, just saying you aren't very informed on this subject.
Disclaimer for corvette nut swingers
.... I am talking purely straight line speed, nothing more.
12-27-2009, 08:40 PM
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12-27-2009, 08:45 PM
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Yea, but vette compared to Ws6 in looks department......... The interior is definitely nicer on the vette though, as well as handling and ride comfort. Anything else, my personal choice is Ws6!
Doesn't change that I'm stating facts and you are stating how you "think" it should go.
This is all for what someone takes it. Some people consider standing still getting 1-2 car lengths pulled on them, some consider it 10+, just depends on what you consider it..
Out of the countless numbers of street races I have seen and experienced first hand, and all the races at the track, I have NEVER seen a corvette beat an fbody in straight line performance (talking stock/very close to stock cars).
I beat my fair share when my old white one was stock, and not by a fender, I pulled every one of them 1 1/2+ lengths.
On the base model C5s, "Corvette" is just that... A name. Now if we start talking Zo6s and what not, sure there is a difference. But if you buy into all the GM babel bull **** that the base model is actually faster, you have some problems. Maybe you should hang around some more street races or even the track? Not being an *** when I say that either, just saying you aren't very informed on this subject.
The interior is definitely nicer on the vette though, as well as handling and ride comfort. Anything else, my personal choice is Ws6! Doesn't change that I'm stating facts and you are stating how you "think" it should go.
This is all for what someone takes it. Some people consider standing still getting 1-2 car lengths pulled on them, some consider it 10+, just depends on what you consider it..
Out of the countless numbers of street races I have seen and experienced first hand, and all the races at the track, I have NEVER seen a corvette beat an fbody in straight line performance (talking stock/very close to stock cars).
I beat my fair share when my old white one was stock, and not by a fender, I pulled every one of them 1 1/2+ lengths.
On the base model C5s, "Corvette" is just that... A name. Now if we start talking Zo6s and what not, sure there is a difference. But if you buy into all the GM babel bull **** that the base model is actually faster, you have some problems. Maybe you should hang around some more street races or even the track? Not being an *** when I say that either, just saying you aren't very informed on this subject.
Now did I make that clear enough for you Lemons?
12-27-2009, 08:50 PM
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If you don't think an LS1 vette is faster than a F-body stock for stock than you obviously aren't very informed on this subject. Then again, that goes with just about every post of yours I see on here. Weight plays the role, and the whole IRS vs. solid axle thing goes out the window between these two cars in stock form. C5's have always averaged quicker e.t.s (13.2-13.4 vs 13.4.-13.6) and ran higher traps (107-109 vs. 105-107) on average. That's where those couple hundred pounds come into play. And as far as ls1ss_2000 statement about the GTO vs. vette he has a very good point. LS2 GTO's aren't much faster than LS1 F-bodies, give or take a couple tenths and a couple mph in the 1/4 mile. Yes they make more power but are considerably heavier. There not as swift as your average LS2 vette....it's a whole different story. C5 A4 vettes typically run in the 13.3-13.5 range at 105-106 which is right around where a stock GTO runs. I dunno where you got 3-4mph difference. So if you consider the vette having a lighter curb weight vs. f-body and having better aerodynamics I don't see how you believe them to walk a C5 like it's standing still. lol
I never once said anything about anything else standing still, might want to re-read a few posts. And I also have said countless times the SAME EXACT thing you are saying about GTOs being slightly faster than an fbody. Again, maybe you should re-read and try some comprehension.
EDIT::::: Please post up *ALL* of my posts where I am misinformed.. I didn't get 4,000+ posts by only posting in the SR&K section, I help out quite a bit on this forum, and have had many thanks for helping with setups. I am curious as to where I misinform people on information so much.
Now did I make that clear enough for you Lemons?
12-27-2009, 09:15 PM
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I'm not quoting internet times.. I'm telling you what I have seen over and over and over IN LIFE. On the street and at the track, on average vettes get beat 9/10 by fbodys.. I'm sorry if it offends you, but it is what I have seen more than enough times to make it a fact for me. I'm talking A4s VS M6s, M6s VS A4s, A4s VS A4s and everything in between.
I never once said anything about anything else standing still, might want to re-read a few posts. And I also have said countless times the SAME EXACT thing you are saying about GTOs being slightly faster than an fbody. Again, maybe you should re-read and try some comprehension.
EDIT::::: Please post up *ALL* of my posts where I am misinformed.. I didn't get 4,000+ posts by only posting in the SR&K section, I help out quite a bit on this forum, and have had many thanks for helping with setups. I am curious as to where I misinform people on information so much.
I never once said anything about anything else standing still, might want to re-read a few posts. And I also have said countless times the SAME EXACT thing you are saying about GTOs being slightly faster than an fbody. Again, maybe you should re-read and try some comprehension.
EDIT::::: Please post up *ALL* of my posts where I am misinformed.. I didn't get 4,000+ posts by only posting in the SR&K section, I help out quite a bit on this forum, and have had many thanks for helping with setups. I am curious as to where I misinform people on information so much.
12-27-2009, 09:24 PM
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I have never seen a stock vette and a stock 6.0 line up next to each other at a track, so I can't use that as a "fact", but I have seen it happen enough that I have not a doubt in my mind that it would. Like I have said, I have NEVER seen a stock C5 base vette beat a stock fbody, ever.. On the street or the track.. From a dig or from a roll. So if the GTO traps on average 3-4 mph faster than an fbody, why wouldn't it a vette?
Corvettes aren't the end to all cars, and the base model C5 is no better than an fbody when it comes to straight line. Even when the modding starts, you are talking what 300 lbs MAX, depending on options.. And the IRS sure as hell isn't helping it any at all.
12-27-2009, 09:38 PM
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How many street races have you actually seen.. I guarentee you if you have seen any worth anything you would know for a fact that an ls2 goat will pull a base c5 EVERY time up top.. And as hard as it pulls, it would equate to 3mph or so.
I have never seen a stock vette and a stock 6.0 line up next to each other at a track, so I can't use that as a "fact", but I have seen it happen enough that I have not a doubt in my mind that it would. Like I have said, I have NEVER seen a stock C5 base vette beat a stock fbody, ever.. On the street or the track.. From a dig or from a roll. So if the GTO traps on average 3-4 mph faster than an fbody, why wouldn't it a vette?
Corvettes aren't the end to all cars, and the base model C5 is no better than an fbody when it comes to straight line. Even when the modding starts, you are talking what 300 lbs MAX, depending on options.. And the IRS sure as hell isn't helping it any at all.
I have never seen a stock vette and a stock 6.0 line up next to each other at a track, so I can't use that as a "fact", but I have seen it happen enough that I have not a doubt in my mind that it would. Like I have said, I have NEVER seen a stock C5 base vette beat a stock fbody, ever.. On the street or the track.. From a dig or from a roll. So if the GTO traps on average 3-4 mph faster than an fbody, why wouldn't it a vette?
Corvettes aren't the end to all cars, and the base model C5 is no better than an fbody when it comes to straight line. Even when the modding starts, you are talking what 300 lbs MAX, depending on options.. And the IRS sure as hell isn't helping it any at all.
A C5 will pull an F-body from a roll, given equal drivers everytime.
And an A4 LS2 GTO does not trap 3-4 mph faster than a stock A4 C5 vette. That would make them a 109-110mph car in stock form; that is what the 05/06 M6 cars run at best. Quit being hard headed.
