2001 WS6 vs 2002 GT (Video)
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The argument was that 2v are rated a 14.0 in the 1/4. I said good drivers can get 13.9s. The average people however gets 14s.
He said I was wrong.
*shrug*
Two other forum members said I was right on. He's claiming 15s.
He said I was wrong.
*shrug*
Two other forum members said I was right on. He's claiming 15s.
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Yes, there are many people who run bone-stock 2v 13.9s consistently.
They are listed at 14 flat.
Are you saying that a decent driver can't get .1 faster consistently? Really?
We agree. I've seen then hit 13.7s. But i'd NEVER try to say they run that. A decent driver can consistently get a stock 2v into the 13s. I actually saw someone with a stock 08 5spd GT run a 15.8 in the 1/4 on passtime once.
I saw a 500hp LT1 run low 15s. Some people just should not be racing. There may be 10 people racing a 2v say. Only 3-4 of those people are going to know how to drive. 3 of those are getting 13.9s consistently. Yes, that's bad math, but where I go, that's how it goes. Hard to find any stock 2v now anyhow.
I had only been to the track 4 times and All 4 times I got it in the 13s. A few of those runs were 14s. But every time I hit 13.9. Couldn't get faster however. This is a 02 GT that has 12k miles on it.
I've seen ones with DRs mid 13s
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If I was gonna make up a time, 13.9 wouldn't be it. 13.9 = Slow. :/
They are listed at 14 flat.
Are you saying that a decent driver can't get .1 faster consistently? Really?
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I had only been to the track 4 times and All 4 times I got it in the 13s. A few of those runs were 14s. But every time I hit 13.9. Couldn't get faster however. This is a 02 GT that has 12k miles on it.
I've seen ones with DRs mid 13s
While I'm not an experienced track runner, I've been driving a 5spd for 20 years
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If I was gonna make up a time, 13.9 wouldn't be it. 13.9 = Slow. :/
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What does it matter what a stock car runs anyways? Within a week of owning my cars there is something done to them. Most of the time I have parts sitting ready to go on BEFORE I even own the cars. Not to mention most Mustangs and Fbodies you buy already have modifications done to them. You can only hope some idiot before you didn't put 19's or 20's on it.
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Yes, there are many people who run bone-stock 2v 13.9s consistently.
They are listed at 14 flat.
Are you saying that a decent driver can't get .1 faster consistently? Really?
We agree. I've seen then hit 13.7s. But i'd NEVER try to say they run that. A decent driver can consistently get a stock 2v into the 13s.
I had only been to the track 4 times and All 4 times I got it in the 13s. A few of those runs were 14s. But every time I hit 13.9. Couldn't get faster however. This is a 02 GT that has 12k miles on it.
I've seen ones with DRs mid 13s
They are listed at 14 flat.
Are you saying that a decent driver can't get .1 faster consistently? Really?
We agree. I've seen then hit 13.7s. But i'd NEVER try to say they run that. A decent driver can consistently get a stock 2v into the 13s.
I had only been to the track 4 times and All 4 times I got it in the 13s. A few of those runs were 14s. But every time I hit 13.9. Couldn't get faster however. This is a 02 GT that has 12k miles on it.
I've seen ones with DRs mid 13s
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What does it matter what a stock car runs anyways? Within a week of owning my cars there is something done to them. Most of the time I have parts sitting ready to go on BEFORE I even own the cars. Not to mention most Mustangs and Fbodies you buy already have modifications done to them. You can only hope some idiot before you didn't put 19's or 20's on it.
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It's close. The 96 Cobra has a better motor, but there are other things that hold it back. I believe you asked this once before. If it wasn't you, I apologize. (Don't feel like looking)
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The 96 Cobra is rated at 13.8/9 too. Meaning a decent driver can get 13.6/7 with them. I HONESTLY don't know why people can't believe a car that is rated 14.0 in the 1/4 can get 13.9s consistently. It just confabulates me.
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because 14.0 is a quick rating for them. like saying every ls1 fbody should run a 13.0
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because 14.0 is a quick rating for them.
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like saying every ls1 fbody should run a 13.0
You guys are acting like I am here talking smack about fbodies, or trying to say my Mustang is faster. I'm not. I love ls1 cars. They make more power easier. That doesn't mean someone else can't enjoy a different car. You'll never see me (seriously) making a comparison between driving a fbody and being vaginally inclined. That just comes off as ..silly. I mean is the 2v doing 13.9s regularly really going to effect your ego in any way? I hope not. 13.9s are slow. But some of you are acting that way.
BTW I want to thank NiteRiderWS6 for being honest in this discussion. Notice we both agreed, yet the usual guys aren't attacking him for it.
He even went one further and said 13.8
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Last edited by Ke^in; 12-29-2009 at 02:43 PM.
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In the quarter-mile yes, they are pretty much dead even. Because of it's taller powerband the Cobra is much more at a disadvantage with it's 3.27 gearing than a 99-04 GT is. Now you take those same two cars completely stock and put them up against each other from a roll and it's not going to be pretty - for the 2-valve that is.
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I'm pretty sure its because we all go by "real world" numbers over what is told on the internet. If you and I were to go to any 1/4th mile track, see a random guy with a stock 2v SOHC Mustang GT...would you be willing to bet me a large amount of money that he is going to get his car to run 13.9 or better?
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As do I
If someone has a time slip I usually believe them. Especially if I known them well. Nothing wrong with that.
I think you may be confused as to what we are saying. I am not saying most people get 13.9s in the 1/4 with a 2v. Me and a couple other people in another thread said that those that know how to drive can consistently get them. And they can/have. I was told this wasn't the case. That a 13.9 was rare, even with people that can drive the 2v. If that's the case, I personally know a lot of people that have done the impossible.
Now can most people get 13.9s? Nope. Most people can't drive. Just like most people I've seen in LS1 fbodies that can't drive run 14s. I would never say that was the norm. That would be... trollish.
over what is told on the internet.
If you and I were to go to any 1/4th mile track, see a random guy with a stock 2v SOHC Mustang GT...would you be willing to bet me a large amount of money that he is going to get his car to run 13.9 or better?
Now can most people get 13.9s? Nope. Most people can't drive. Just like most people I've seen in LS1 fbodies that can't drive run 14s. I would never say that was the norm. That would be... trollish.
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