first kill... don't laugh
the car had about 85k on it at the time and it was near 100 degrees out when i made the 2 13.7 passes.
and no im not kidding. stock 6 speed lt1s have gone as fast as 13.5. you say you have no bias for whatever car, yet you continue to deny real world data that iv given you
and no im not kidding. stock 6 speed lt1s have gone as fast as 13.5. you say you have no bias for whatever car, yet you continue to deny real world data that iv given you
im speaking from my experience, not what other cars have ran, not what other people have tolf me. iv never even had a pi stop my pull when stock or otherwise. the only na mustang iv ever lost to was an 06 gt with full boltons to my stock. he had me by about 2 cars
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Those are stock LS1 times. (Yes I know LS1s have gone faster..) Are you saying a LT1 keeps up with a LS1?
Most stock LT1 cars don't even get out of the 14s, just like 2v Mustangs.
All 3 stock LT1s I've raced I've beaten by a car length or more in my stock 2v.
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iv never even had a pi stop my pull when stock or otherwise. the only na mustang iv ever lost to was an 06 gt with full boltons to my stock. he had me by about 2 cars
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Quarter mile times are like dyno numbers = absolutely worthless when it comes to comparing one persons to anothers over the internet.. because of track conditions.
What runs 13s at atco runs 14s here. Etc.
Stock LS1s run high 13s/low 14s, stock LT1s run high high 14s, PI gt run low 15s, non PI run high 15s... at the track I visit regularly.
Auto against auto, and manual against manual, the LT1 will edge out a GT pretty easily from what I've seen. Like I said, I met one of my good buddies when I raced him in my A4 LT1 with a catback against his ORX/mufflers A4 GT.
Kevin, not tryin to bust your *****, but if your car consistently runs 13.9s let's see a time slip with your name and LS1tech signed on it. It would clear up a lot of the criticism people are giving you. The date and time will be stamped on it along with the track, so we can get a rough DA estimate.
What runs 13s at atco runs 14s here. Etc.
Stock LS1s run high 13s/low 14s, stock LT1s run high high 14s, PI gt run low 15s, non PI run high 15s... at the track I visit regularly.
Auto against auto, and manual against manual, the LT1 will edge out a GT pretty easily from what I've seen. Like I said, I met one of my good buddies when I raced him in my A4 LT1 with a catback against his ORX/mufflers A4 GT.
Kevin, not tryin to bust your *****, but if your car consistently runs 13.9s let's see a time slip with your name and LS1tech signed on it. It would clear up a lot of the criticism people are giving you. The date and time will be stamped on it along with the track, so we can get a rough DA estimate.
I took my brother's 93 LT1 with just a Flowmaster welded onto the stock catback to the track about 5 years ago. It was an auto and I had to pedal it to get it to shift into second because the 700R4 was waiting to long to shift into second, but it went 14.01 at 99.8 mph bone stock. I think it could have edged into the 13.90s if I didn't have to let off for the shift. About two weeks after that, I ended up pulling behind a new edge 5-speed and a LX 5.0 hatch that were lined up at a red light. The new edge was noisy so it had mufflers also. The new edge was dead even with me til he hit third and then I started making up the distance but the 5.0 probably pulled like 4 cars on us so it was pretty strong. So based on my experience, new edge 5 speed = LT1 auto. My bro's car was in good shape though and ran strong so your average poorly taken care of LT1 would not have the same results I'm guessing considering the age difference between them and the new edge GTs.
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Kevin, not tryin to bust your *****, but if your car consistently runs 13.9s let's see a time slip with your name and LS1tech signed on it. It would clear up a lot of the criticism people are giving you. The date and time will be stamped on it along with the track, so we can get a rough DA estimate.
I would say running a 13.7 in a stock LT1 is harder to believe than running a 13.9 in a stock 2v GT. But hey. that's just IMHO.
BTW if you are going to take above timeslips as proof, I could show you one doing 9s with my name on it and LS1tech signed on it. I wouldn't take that as proof of anything if I were you.
Like I said before, If I was going to lie about something, I'd surely not claim to own a 2v GT, and then say I ran high 13s. What would I gain by making up something like that? Who is going to be impressed by it? I would hope no one in here. No one in the Mustang forums are. When I first joined this site, I was even too embarrassed to mention such a time.
Absolutely no one here knows me. I could say my GT has a blower and I was running low 13s and no one would know the better.
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oh wait, I'm pretty sure Kevin mentioned something along those lines.
I took my brother's 93 LT1 with just a Flowmaster welded onto the stock catback to the track about 5 years ago. It was an auto and I had to pedal it to get it to shift into second because the 700R4 was waiting to long to shift into second, but it went 14.01 at 99.8 mph bone stock. I think it could have edged into the 13.90s if I didn't have to let off for the shift. About two weeks after that, I ended up pulling behind a new edge 5-speed and a LX 5.0 hatch that were lined up at a red light. The new edge was noisy so it had mufflers also. The new edge was dead even with me til he hit third and then I started making up the distance but the 5.0 probably pulled like 4 cars on us so it was pretty strong. So based on my experience, new edge 5 speed = LT1 auto. My bro's car was in good shape though and ran strong so your average poorly taken care of LT1 would not have the same results I'm guessing considering the age difference between them and the new edge GTs.
If you two were 'dead even', how is there a distance to make up?This thread has gotten retarded.
And in my experience a C5 runs 14s. So, that must mean they all do.
oh wait, I'm pretty sure Kevin mentioned something along those lines.
S8er01Z already posted about that debate. Have you not been reading anyone's posts at all?
You lost me at that point. If you two were 'dead even', how is there a distance to make up?
This thread has gotten retarded.
oh wait, I'm pretty sure Kevin mentioned something along those lines.
S8er01Z already posted about that debate. Have you not been reading anyone's posts at all?
You lost me at that point.
If you two were 'dead even', how is there a distance to make up?This thread has gotten retarded.
It was a two lane and I was behind the 5.0 so they obviously both were ahead of me because it was impossible to line up a third car. The 5.0 left us but the distance stayed the same from when the new edge and I started to when he hit third. After that is when I made up the distance he started ahead of me. I pulled even to him so I guess I pulled a car length? Actually flash If someone doesn't believe me here, how does it effect me in any way? I really don't care. I am not here to impress anyone. Especially not with a 2v high13/low14 car. Have I beaten LT1s? Yes. Then again my 02 had 9k miles on it when the first 2 was beat, and 13k when the last one was. Now it has a little over 19k miles. It's not a "fast" car by no means. But either is a stock LT1.
I would say running a 13.7 in a stock LT1 is harder to believe than running a 13.9 in a stock 2v GT. But hey. that's just IMHO.
BTW if you are going to take above timeslips as proof, I could show you one doing 9s with my name on it and LS1tech signed on it. I wouldn't take that as proof of anything if I were you.
Like I said before, If I was going to lie about something, I'd surely not claim to own a 2v GT, and then say I ran high 13s. What would I gain by making up something like that? Who is going to be impressed by it? I would hope no one in here. No one in the Mustang forums are. When I first joined this site, I was even too embarrassed to mention such a time.
Absolutely no one here knows me. I could say my GT has a blower and I was running low 13s and no one would know the better.
I would say running a 13.7 in a stock LT1 is harder to believe than running a 13.9 in a stock 2v GT. But hey. that's just IMHO.
BTW if you are going to take above timeslips as proof, I could show you one doing 9s with my name on it and LS1tech signed on it. I wouldn't take that as proof of anything if I were you.
Like I said before, If I was going to lie about something, I'd surely not claim to own a 2v GT, and then say I ran high 13s. What would I gain by making up something like that? Who is going to be impressed by it? I would hope no one in here. No one in the Mustang forums are. When I first joined this site, I was even too embarrassed to mention such a time.
Absolutely no one here knows me. I could say my GT has a blower and I was running low 13s and no one would know the better.
A time slip paired with a video is excellent proof. A time slip of your 13.9 would be a good start as long as it was legit.
You are going thread to thread saying your car runs 13.9s, which is not very common for a stock GT. That's like saying my stock LT1 went 12.5s.. a stock LT1 is nothing impressive and neither is a 12.5, but paired together it's a far-fetched story.
You're right, I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just asking for a simple slip or video of you and your car running the time. That's all
