GTO vs 306 Mustang
04-12-2010, 07:53 AM
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Few months ago i was checking out the new SS and a couple just bought a yellow one, we talked a little and i said it should be a fun race when it comes in.
Salesman intervines "The SS wont have a problem against your land boat" I didnt know what to do so i just left, with my "land boat" haha
Now back on topic!
04-12-2010, 11:36 AM
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Oh, and in a street gas (93 octane), somewhat reasonably cammed 302/306 360 rwhp is phenomenal. That's so good, that unless I looked under the hood and saw nothing but premium parts, I wouldn't believe it either --> guys tend to exaggerate what their cars can do. Mine made "only" about 320 rwhp and walked on a lot of other 302s that made 400+rwhp, or so they said, including a few blown 302s....
A typical H/C/I 302 street car is going to make between 260 and 350 rwhp with very few outliers.
A typical H/C/I 302 street car is going to make between 260 and 350 rwhp with very few outliers.
360rwhp on a mustang dyno in a foxbody will run low 11's with traction. Mid to high 11s in a heavier sn95. I highly doubt your buddy actually has 360rwhp on a 306 h/c/i.
Nice kill thou.
04-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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Plus we raced from a roll where traps are more important (if you're going to armchair qb this race).
"With traction" my GTO would easily be in the 11's, btw.
04-12-2010, 12:09 PM
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I'm not disputing your claim of beating him at all, just like Chris said 360rwhp on a mustang dyno in a h/c/i 306 is very hard to do and impressive. Any more details of his exact setup?
04-12-2010, 12:21 PM
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306 c.i
9:5 to 1 compression
Ford Racing F- cam
Trickflow Twisted Wedge aluminum heads
1.6 roller rockers.
Trickflow street heat upper and lower intake manifold
BBK 65mm Throttlebody
mac cold air intake
Pro-m 75mm mass air meter.
Ford racing 24lb injectors
ford racing shorty headers.
bassani bx -x-pipe with hi flow cats
SLP LM1 catback exaust
9:5 to 1 compression
Ford Racing F- cam
Trickflow Twisted Wedge aluminum heads
1.6 roller rockers.
Trickflow street heat upper and lower intake manifold
BBK 65mm Throttlebody
mac cold air intake
Pro-m 75mm mass air meter.
Ford racing 24lb injectors
ford racing shorty headers.
bassani bx -x-pipe with hi flow cats
SLP LM1 catback exaust
04-12-2010, 12:45 PM
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Staging Lane
Edit: first thing first- Good Kill on the Mustang OP!
This is how my last 5 minutes of reading went:
"Cool race, built 5.0's are always a reputable kill"
"... wtf? These guys are saying 3.06's are capable of what?!" Where's that 'Quote' button...
"... make that 'Multi-Quote' button... these guys are clueless!"
"Oh wait, sarge is chargin' to the rescue."
"Damn, Sarge just got shot down." Multi-Quote... another Multi-Quote...
"Oh, Chris Arnold just blew them Internet HorsePower bullshitters up, and destroyed there rebuttals, too!"
Now I gotta unclick all them Multi-Quote's. F* it: log out, log back in; problem solved.
This is how my last 5 minutes of reading went:
"Cool race, built 5.0's are always a reputable kill"
"... wtf? These guys are saying 3.06's are capable of what?!" Where's that 'Quote' button...
"... make that 'Multi-Quote' button... these guys are clueless!"
"Oh wait, sarge is chargin' to the rescue."
"Damn, Sarge just got shot down." Multi-Quote... another Multi-Quote...
"Oh, Chris Arnold just blew them Internet HorsePower bullshitters up, and destroyed there rebuttals, too!"
Now I gotta unclick all them Multi-Quote's. F* it: log out, log back in; problem solved.
04-12-2010, 01:20 PM
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306 c.i
9:5 to 1 compression
Ford Racing F- cam
Trickflow Twisted Wedge aluminum heads
1.6 roller rockers.
Trickflow street heat upper and lower intake manifold
BBK 65mm Throttlebody
mac cold air intake
Pro-m 75mm mass air meter.
Ford racing 24lb injectors
ford racing shorty headers.
bassani bx -x-pipe with hi flow cats
SLP LM1 catback exaust
9:5 to 1 compression
Ford Racing F- cam
Trickflow Twisted Wedge aluminum heads
1.6 roller rockers.
Trickflow street heat upper and lower intake manifold
BBK 65mm Throttlebody
mac cold air intake
Pro-m 75mm mass air meter.
Ford racing 24lb injectors
ford racing shorty headers.
bassani bx -x-pipe with hi flow cats
SLP LM1 catback exaust
04-12-2010, 03:27 PM
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Ju1ce do you actually own a 385rwhp GTO or even a GTO at all? If so post up some proof. Not just pictures, some proof. Make a funny sign under the windshield wiper saying Stopsign32v is a retard or something. Because I don't believe you do and I don't believe you ran into a 1995 Mustang GT with a 306 that makes 360rwhp. Please prove me wrong because after all your stupid posts and this dumb thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/street-ra...-mach-1-a.html I have a hard time believing anything you say.
Last edited by Stopsign32v; 04-12-2010 at 03:36 PM.
04-12-2010, 03:47 PM
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Ju1ce do you actually own a 385rwhp GTO or even a GTO at all? If so post up some proof. Not just pictures, some proof. Make a funny sign under the windshield wiper saying Stopsign32v is a retard or something. Because I don't believe you do and I don't believe you ran into a 1995 Mustang GT with a 306 that makes 360rwhp. Please prove me wrong because after all your stupid posts and this dumb thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/street-ra...-mach-1-a.html I have a hard time believing anything you say.
but its okay, someones gotta have the ***** to say it....but in the sign, it should say GTO < any ford.
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
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Ju1ce do you actually own a 385rwhp GTO or even a GTO at all? If so post up some proof. Not just pictures, some proof. Make a funny sign under the windshield wiper saying Stopsign32v is a retard or something. Because I don't believe you do and I don't believe you ran into a 1995 Mustang GT with a 306 that makes 360rwhp. Please prove me wrong because after all your stupid posts and this dumb thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/street-ra...-mach-1-a.html I have a hard time believing anything you say.
04-12-2010, 05:00 PM
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Thanks, man. That made me laugh.
Keep you multi-quote button nearby, though. They might come back, but I won't be able to field any more rebuttals for long. I'm off to do a field exercise (army guy here) for a little over a month.
I love 5.0s, and have had them in my mind for 13 years. Having owned 2 H/C/I stock shortblock 302s (270 & 320rwhp), a twin-turbo HCI 302 (420rwhp), and a *****-out aftermarket blocked 1200hp capable 331 (760 rwhp at only 14psi so far), I'd like to believe that I know the 5.0 basics, but I'm always open-minded and I welcome any credible evidence to correct my understanding.
Keep you multi-quote button nearby, though. They might come back, but I won't be able to field any more rebuttals for long. I'm off to do a field exercise (army guy here) for a little over a month.I love 5.0s, and have had them in my mind for 13 years. Having owned 2 H/C/I stock shortblock 302s (270 & 320rwhp), a twin-turbo HCI 302 (420rwhp), and a *****-out aftermarket blocked 1200hp capable 331 (760 rwhp at only 14psi so far), I'd like to believe that I know the 5.0 basics, but I'm always open-minded and I welcome any credible evidence to correct my understanding.
Edit: first thing first- Good Kill on the Mustang OP!
This is how my last 5 minutes of reading went:
"Cool race, built 5.0's are always a reputable kill"
"... wtf? These guys are saying 3.06's are capable of what?!" Where's that 'Quote' button...
"... make that 'Multi-Quote' button... these guys are clueless!"
"Oh wait, sarge is chargin' to the rescue."
"Damn, Sarge just got shot down." Multi-Quote... another Multi-Quote...
"Oh, Chris Arnold just blew them Internet HorsePower bullshitters up, and destroyed there rebuttals, too!"
Now I gotta unclick all them Multi-Quote's. F* it: log out, log back in; problem solved.
This is how my last 5 minutes of reading went:
"Cool race, built 5.0's are always a reputable kill"
"... wtf? These guys are saying 3.06's are capable of what?!" Where's that 'Quote' button...
"... make that 'Multi-Quote' button... these guys are clueless!"
"Oh wait, sarge is chargin' to the rescue."
"Damn, Sarge just got shot down." Multi-Quote... another Multi-Quote...
"Oh, Chris Arnold just blew them Internet HorsePower bullshitters up, and destroyed there rebuttals, too!"
Now I gotta unclick all them Multi-Quote's. F* it: log out, log back in; problem solved.
04-12-2010, 05:58 PM
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Oh BTW, it's also very clear that the car is not making the claimed 360rwhp. The powerband of the F-cam and the capability of those heads puts the power of that engine in the 285-305rwhp range depending on how well it was tuned, and more than likely towards the bottom end of that range on a dynojet, not a Mustang dyno.
Chris
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