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Old 05-03-2010 | 10:28 PM
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The worlds fastest 4.6 car uses FACTORY OEM Block and heads and a majority of the OEM parts..

Does the LSx car ?
Yep, LQ9 iron block. Not stock but indeed factory.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Packy
Add my stirring spoon...

LSX heads are Yates styled heads with a few subtle differences.
LMFAO, I wouldn't go that far..
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme864
Oh god, here goes this ****** argument again
Whats there to argue ? Facts are Facts.


Old school Chevy guys have had to pay extra to get a " 5 - 7 " Ford firing order swap cam for the past 15 years.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad Notch
LMFAO, I wouldn't go that far..
I said a few subtle differences.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad Notch
Whats there to argue ? Facts are Facts.


Old school Chevy guys have had to pay extra to get a " 5 - 7 " Ford firing order swap cam for the past 15 years.

What about the fact a 4.6 needs a supercharger to keep up with a 5.7 N/A.
Same with 5.0's without some sort of power adder. They can't hang.

Closest competition to my car from Ford is a GT500 right? They can't hang without serious mods.

What does Ford have for the ZR1? A Ford GT.. again.. needs mods to match the showroom stock bowtie not to mention cost $50k more.

Just thought I'd stir the pot..

Make any excuses you want the Corvette gets no special graces when it is pitted against an 8.3 liter Viper. You do not see magazines giving the Corvette any slack saying.. well to make it fair we will add nitrous or a SC to the z06 7.0 liter.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by InsomZ
What about the fact a 4.6 needs a supercharger to keep up with a 5.7 N/A.
Same with 5.0's without some sort of power adder. They can't hang.
Exactly! Because its crazy to find a N/A 4.6L that will hang with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pusB_tZqE

or a N/A 5.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2SCvFZuC8
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:53 AM
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^^Al Pappito can shift! Damn!
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Wow, I can find videos too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykrBz-WAMiI

The Al Pappito vid is a built 5.4. I'm talking about the norm. I've never seen a fast street 4.6 or 5.0 that did not have some sort of power adder.
Old 05-04-2010 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by InsomZ
The Al Pappito vid is a built 5.4. I'm talking about the norm. I've never seen a fast street 4.6 or 5.0 that did not have some sort of power adder.
Oh ok, I'm sorry. I thought by you saying
Originally Posted by InsomZ
What about the fact a 4.6 needs a supercharger to keep up with a 5.7 N/A.
Same with 5.0's without some sort of power adder. They can't hang.
you meant that it was a "fact" that a 4.6L or a 5.0L needed some sort of power adder to hang with a N/A 5.7L. Now you mean you have just never seen a fast street N/A 4.6L or N/A 5.0L that can hang with a N/A 5.7L.


LOL man you had me going at first!!!!! I thought you were literally stupid, now I just realize you are just ignorant. You sly dog you!!!
Old 05-04-2010 | 01:16 AM
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lol.. ruffled someones feathers. You know.. I say a N/A honda is slow and you find the one guy that made an 11 second N/A honda and suddenly the rest are redeemed? No their still slow without a power adder.
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The difference is, you can take a 100% oem 5.0 and stick a $1200 S-Trim kit on it and make more RWHP and RWTQ than anything you can throw on a stock bottom end LS1.

A few years ago, I built a super mild and cheap OEM block 306 ( stock crank and rods with a $250 set of pistons ), TFS heads and intake, and a 500/510 218/226 114 Lunati cam and it belted out 622 RWHP on a Mustang dyno for 3 years straight. Ran 9.92 best ET and ran a best MPH of 143. This was on a 26x10 and with a 5 speed.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Notch
The difference is, you can take a 100% oem 5.0 and stick a $1200 S-Trim kit on it and make more RWHP and RWTQ than anything you can throw on a stock bottom end LS1.
You know that we've had people run 9's with a turbo on a stock LS1 right?
I personally know a guy who ran ~630rwhp with FI (turbo) on a stock LS1 for
a very long time. Maybe you've heard of him. His nickname is Stenod. He's
a sponsor.

Personally, I think you're mistaken on your point above.
Old 05-04-2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBirdLS1
Hey pony I guess this means I bolt on LS1 take take on a catback/CAI.
And because of the black smoke he has to be spraying and by the size of the cloud it has to a 1000 shot. I even got a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx_wD2_QaI0

Originally Posted by InsomZ
What about the fact a 4.6 needs a supercharger to keep up with a 5.7 N/A.
Same with 5.0's without some sort of power adder. They can't hang.
That ignorant kind of thinking gets old REAL quick. Oh wait, is that a 281CID "hanging" with a 346cid Above? By golly it looks like it is.

What you have proven though, is even long time members of this site are still full of ignorance when it comes to the 'opposition'.

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Oh ok, I'm sorry. I thought by you saying

you meant that it was a "fact" that a 4.6L or a 5.0L needed some sort of power adder to hang with a N/A 5.7L. Now you mean you have just never seen a fast street N/A 4.6L or N/A 5.0L that can hang with a N/A 5.7L.


LOL man you had me going at first!!!!! I thought you were literally stupid, now I just realize you are just ignorant. You sly dog you!!!
now that's funny.
Old 05-04-2010 | 01:10 PM
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I'm still waiting for username on the registry for Mongoose.
Old 05-04-2010 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
Worlds Fastest 4.6 powered car (John Mihovetz 2002 Cougar) wen't 6.83 @ 205. Not sure what the fasted LSX powered "vehicle" is but the fastest LSX powered Camaro (Mike Moran) wen't 6.86 @ 205. That's really splitting hairs there. lol I might add the "Casper" Camaro is only 352ci displacement, I wonder what a larger LSX with that setup could do....



Nope, no production Mustang. nooooway.
You are mistaken sir. His car has gone 6.31@229, but it wasn't a door slammer.
Old 05-04-2010 | 02:40 PM
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Hello everyone, yes Im a noob, but not here to start any trouble, just want learn a little about LS1s and there setups.

As far as the thread, I dont think he meant any harm by lying to you guys, Im guessing he just wanted to have a little fun with you guys, otherwise he wouldn't have posted links to his youtube and a pic of his engine. BUT he did seem to come across a bit cocky as the thread went on. Also, as far as the Eaton swap, it HIGHLY unlikely that only $1500 was spent on it, possible maybe, but highly unlikely, even if he did it all himself, which is still up in the air with all the back and forth about him doing it and then later saying it was purchased this way. As far as his power, there's no doubt in my mind that car can put down 460whp at 17* timing and full exhaust.

BTW, Ponygt65, his username is N47WTF, seems like a relatively new member.
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Been reading this thread me and a friend, my car is a 00z28 with cam,nitrous i will be in the dfw fri-sat, i would love to see what that mach has, you can bring your cobra friend along as well. Yes this is a callout for fun but if you got cash im willing to put that up as well. holla at me mayne nitrousls1@yahoo.com or just send me a pm. dont make any excuses bro you already said you want turn down a race...................
Old 05-04-2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu02
Been reading this thread me and a friend, my car is a 00z28 with cam,nitrous i will be in the dfw fri-sat, i would love to see what that mach has, you can bring your cobra friend along as well. Yes this is a callout for fun but if you got cash im willing to put that up as well. holla at me mayne nitrousls1@yahoo.com or just send me a pm. dont make any excuses bro you already said you want turn down a race...................
Damn brah, you suk at da readn n ritin!! But Im witcha! Holla!!

O yeh bet he want sho up !
Old 05-04-2010 | 03:31 PM
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lol, im no english major, matter of fact i didnt post up to talk about reading and writting, i just want to know if he going to contact me or not......
Old 05-04-2010 | 04:29 PM
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I wonder when people will connect a sub-forum entitled "Street Racing & Kill STORIES" with reading and writing skills.
Seems kind of like a necessity to me.


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