PewterScreaminMach

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Damn, it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention the fact that the BMW has multiple power modes and no one knows what mode he was running in. I've also met/seen too many drivers in expensive and exotic sports cars that have no idea how to drive the thing, what gear selection to make, how far to wind it out, etc, so all we can really say is it went down how it went down.

Nice kill, OP. Welcome to the site.

callmedoc

Trust me...this guy did not look like a rookie. I dont know why a few people are questioning the results. Z51 C6 6-speeds (LS2 or 3) with the 3.42 rear are very strong and tough competitors from a roll due to optimized gears 1,2,3. And my Vette is running strong. If you saw how bad I destroyed my friends AP2 S2K w/ i/e from a roll, maybe you would be a believer.

Thanks for the welcome guys. I'll have a BBK intake, Corsa Extreme exhaust, and tune hopefully done by next week. Can't wait.

MONG00SE

Did you watch the video I posted in my reply?

callmedoc

Maybe you should watch a bit closer. The Vette is pulling and then looks to miss 3rd gear. I promise the Vette would not be pulling like that at the begining of the vid and then suddenly fall back for no reason. Even worse, that Vette even does not look to be a Z51.

I've run quicker my one short trip to the track than ANY M6 Vert' I've seen.

MONG00SE

If that were the case, the vid would've said so and another run would've been setup (these individuals have PLENTY of races... check them out on youtube).

Consider yourself lucky on this win


M6/M5s are no good from a dig, they weigh too much. This why you generally see them racing from a roll...

And I thought Z51 was a handling package... just assuming though...

callmedoc

Z51 C6's (not C5's) have different rear end ratios and closer 6-speed ratios in gears 1,2,3,5. They are certainly quicker in roll races than the non-Z51 counterparts.

I dont consider myself lucky. I consider myself a good driver with a quicker car than the obese M6 Vert. I really didnt know they were THAT heavy. To beat a car that is >1000 lbs lighter, you need MORE than the 100 flywheel hp that the M6 has. Sorry.

MONG00SE

No need to apologize, you didn't beat me...

Last bit i'll say about this, 0-200kmph(124ish mph) for Z51 is around mid 14s where as it is around mid 13s for the M6 (both coupes)... To put 3 cars on one, from a roll, by 130... I dunno

callmedoc

I'm more a "real world" number person than a magazine racer, but where did you get your numbers?

MONG00SE

I did a google search.

(BMW M6 0 - 200 kmph, same for z51)

Whatever happened, happened. I believe your story 100%, I'm just trying to point out that the results seem to be pretty unlikely.

callmedoc

I dont get what is so unlikely. In the "real world" NO M6 Vert has ran my numbers. Now the coupe weighs 300 lbs or so less, so it probably would be a good/drivers race with a C6 Z51 6-speed. End of story.

If you were in the NJ area, I would GLADLY get a run on video for LS1tech.

Ironically, I posted this on the bimmerforums and the results "sounded right."

AWDTBSS

m6's arent that quick. crap load of money as well could almost buy a zr1 for the price

MONG00SE

I'm not debating a dig race (regarding your numbers comment)... I'm debating how often your personal outcome would occur, given the same general circumstances (which specify a roll race)... And, in my opinion, i'm saying that I wouldn't expect your outcome to be the normal one.

Ironically you find comfort in the opinions of others (bimmerforums) even though you're only interested in "real world"

Since we're bringing other forums into this, and since that matters to you, m5board has a similar post about an m6 coupe pulling a couple cars on an ls3 vette from a roll.

Also, the numbers I specified is why I consider it unlikely, that and seeing the result of stock m6s race against various other cars from a roll.

In post #22 you asked why people are questioning the outcome... I'm simply answering your question.

One more thing, will you not type "gladly" in all caps in any future street racing propositions... it's far too intimidating...

callmedoc

Im not trying to intimidate you, just typing how I feel. You're the one who seems upset that the mighty M6 lost. The fact is, the M6 Vert' is clearly obese and is underpowered given the weight discrepency between it and a C6 vert'. That post on the M5board is the most generalized joke of a post i've seen. Seems like something a 5 year old would post.

I just find it ironic that other bimmer fanatics who clearly would be biased toward an M6 state my results are expected. I dont need "comfort in the opinions of others." Just ironic that's all buddy.

MONG00SE

You stated their opinion as helpful evidence for your side of the debate... not sure why that would even matter to someone who is only interested in "real world"

I couldn't care less that the M6 lost... I had plenty of options before I purchased my M6 and straight line performance wasn't what sold me on the car.

Not sure how it's clear the m6 is underpowered... It may be clear to you, and your arbitrary set of criteria which deems something underpowered, but it is not clear in general.

Your response to the m5board post is generalized in itself... Seems like the reaction a 5 year old would have... pal

Forget it... have fun with your chevy, I'll have fun with my bmw... end of story

callmedoc

Wow. I'm speechless. I knew you were a pretentious pr*ck and you just showed everyone.

I for one always wanted a Vette ("a chevy") since I was a teen and got one after finishing med school. I could have got something more expensive (and will add a Ferrari or Lambo to my driveway soon). However, it’s not for a pretentious nameplate, but rather for the driving experience. For some (no names here) it's all about a nameplate. I have zero respect for (and wont waste my time with) people like that.

MONG00SE

That's not how I meant that, but thanks for drawing conclusions out of thin air and calling names... speaks well for your character.

I bought the car because I enjoyed driving it... I don't buy a car because of a certain name, I also don't stay away from purchasing cars because of a certain name.

What i spend my money on comes down to my own preferences and I couldn't care less about how other people react.

Irunelevens

Intake/exhaust S2000 vs. a C6 Vette is no gauge to tell how quick your car is... it's a slaughter.
Completely different cars.
He's had a Chevy too

Redfire 03

Beamer guys will go to all ends of the earth to defend the BMW nameplate, lol. Reminds of a debate me and some Beemer guys had a couple months ago when a friends stock '09CTS-V slaughtered an '08 M5 from a roll back to back runs. My head still hurts from that one.

Irunelevens

Define "slaughter?"

MONG00SE

My posts were answering op's question about why some people were doubting his story.... that is all.