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Old 05-30-2010, 10:33 PM
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How about let the damn computer do its job and shift/downshift itself. Sounds like a grand idea to me.
Don't just go out and kick it on the 3rd honk, manuals (like I'm sure the 370 was) will ALWAYS get 1/2-1 full car jump on you if you do this. Practice a bit but on normal honks you should kick it RIGHT after the 2nd honk. Your car will downshift and leave almost exactly on the 3rd honk. Same goes for the track, leave on the second light.
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Nice. Those ricers can sometimes pull some decent power.
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Originally Posted by bp944
Nice. Those ricers can sometimes pull some decent power.
I wouldn't call a stock 370Z a "ricer". An import yes, but not a ricer.
Old 05-30-2010, 11:43 PM
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Up here 350 and 370's are ricers: my definition is, any car that, 50% of the time or more, is lowered with bling rims and body kits or big aluminum wings, or both: that's a ricer car. Might as well be a Prelude. Nice cars no doubt, but when the majority of owners fall into the ricer category... Well, you know what they say about rednecks and camaro's, right? Same thing.







hahahhaha just razzin you guys. 370Z's definitely fit into the Fast n Furious crowd image, but you can't damn them all for what some of there owners do.
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so leave on the second honk? i guess if you figure the time it takes the trans to react...
Old 05-31-2010, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by meine96ws6
so leave on the second honk? i guess if you figure the time it takes the trans to react...
That's what I've noticed too. The car always takes a full second before it jumps. Also, isn't it "bad" to manually shift an A4? I was always told to leave it in D and let the computer do the work...
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It's not "bad" to do it, but if you try to manually shift a stock transmission for an entire race the computer can do it better 99/100 times. Having the car in the correct gear at the beginning of the race doesn't do anything bad.
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After much practice, trial and error style I have my own set of racing standards:

0-20mph: always manually hold it and shift 200-300rpms before redline: if its in drive and spins-then-shifts you are done for.

20-30mph: Let it auto shift... 1st gear is the nemesis of 4L65E cars. Dont hold it, it spins and shifts. Do hold it, and you risk over revving and/or damaging your bands due to lack of line pressure that causes it to occasionally slip horribly when you slide it up to 2nd. Never try and start a race at 30mph while holding 1st. Bad things happen nearly every time.

30-40mph: Simple. NEVER START A RACE THERE unless you got a 3800+ stall. It's a guaranteed 2+ lead you will hand them.

40-75mph: manually hold it until you take off, then immediately slide it to drive. With my 3.45 gears, it will not downshift to 2nd after 70mph- but 2nd will run up to 80+mph. It's another 1-2 car lead you will give them if it doesnt downshift when it "should".
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Up here 350 and 370's are ricers: my definition is, any car that, 50% of the time or more, is lowered with bling rims and body kits or big aluminum wings, or both: that's a ricer car. Might as well be a Prelude. Nice cars no doubt, but when the majority of owners fall into the ricer category... Well, you know what they say about rednecks and camaro's, right? Same thing.

hahahhaha just razzin you guys. 370Z's definitely fit into the Fast n Furious crowd image, but you can't damn them all for what some of there owners do.
I have seen just as many riced out fbodys as I have 350/370Zs around town.
A platform of cars are not rice, it is the owners of those cars that make them rice. I have seen some of the riced out cars you can imagine only to counter that with a very clean well done and tasteful same exact make/model car.
Owners are ricers, platforms are not.

On a side note- 95% of 350/370s I see are one stock and drove by male adults over the age of 40.
Originally Posted by meine96ws6
so leave on the second honk? i guess if you figure the time it takes the trans to react...
Correct.
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That's what I've noticed too. The car always takes a full second before it jumps. Also, isn't it "bad" to manually shift an A4? I was always told to leave it in D and let the computer do the work...
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It's not "bad" to do it, but if you try to manually shift a stock transmission for an entire race the computer can do it better 99/100 times. Having the car in the correct gear at the beginning of the race doesn't do anything bad.
Correct. And as far as you manually shifting 200Rpms before red line, it is still going to shift where it is best, you just cause the computer to delay the shift because you are being a jackass.
If you absolutely have to have it in 1st or 2nd at the beginning of the race, immediately shift it into OD when you kick it.
NOBODY can out shift a computer, period. There is a reason they call them AUTOmatics.
Correct way, put it in OD and go on the second honk. Or get a converter.
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When he pulled up to you, you prolly thought "Damn ricers" Right?
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Lemons: I don't know about 4L60 cars, but my 4L65E in my GTO will shift to second when I put the selector to second gear, regardless of where the rpms are at. Only 2nd to drive and drive to overdrive will it run it out to the redline. Makes it a PITA honestly.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Lemons: I don't know about 4L60 cars, but my 4L65E in my GTO will shift to second when I put the selector to second gear, regardless of where the rpms are at. Only 2nd to drive and drive to overdrive will it run it out to the redline. Makes it a PITA honestly.
If you put the selector in 1st/2nd at too high of a mph/rpm it will not downshift until you slow down enough for it to. If you go WOT it will downshift on its own although. It is going to shift whenever it wants to anyways (unless you hold it then it will just hit the limiter which totally defeats the purpose anyway).

That is why I say put it in OD and let the computer do the work.
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Originally Posted by bp944
Nice. Those ricers can sometimes pull some decent power.

your most likely more of a ricer than the 370z driver.

and sticks_n_stones... ricer is more mentality than anything else. sad thing is the 370z forum all around has less drama in it than here. since there actually is less kids driving around 370z's than ls1/lt1 or other cheap older v8's. from all the Z owners i know personally about 15. none of us has body kits or ugly 20+ inch chrome rims that dont match the car. but i know mustangs with wings that look like there off WRX sti's and a camaro painted bright green lowered with the fugliest rims you can imagine.
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
your most likely more of a ricer than the 370z driver.

and sticks_n_stones... ricer is more mentality than anything else. sad thing is the 370z forum all around has less drama in it than here. since there actually is less kids driving around 370z's than ls1/lt1 or other cheap older v8's. from all the Z owners i know personally about 15. none of us has body kits or ugly 20+ inch chrome rims that dont match the car. but i know mustangs with wings that look like there off WRX sti's and a camaro painted bright green lowered with the fugliest rims you can imagine.
The only negative thing I can really think of about the 350Z forums is they always resort to the same ole same ole..... "O yea, well your interior looks like **** compared to ours!" and "But our cars carry a completely different "status" with them"... I mean seriously, it is a Nissan.

Other than that I don't have any complaints with that community.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
The only negative thing I can really think of about the 350Z forums is they always resort to the same ole same ole..... "O yea, well your interior looks like **** compared to ours!" and "But our cars carry a completely different "status" with them"... I mean seriously, it is a Nissan.

Other than that I don't have any complaints with that community.
oh we over at the 370 forum make fun of the 350 forum. there is like a big split in the nissan world when it comes to the 350 guys and the 370. they dont like the fact a full bolton 350z gets walked by a stock 370z.
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
oh we over at the 370 forum make fun of the 350 forum. there is like a big split in the nissan world when it comes to the 350 guys and the 370. they dont like the fact a full bolton 350z gets walked by a stock 370z.
I have not been on the forums since the 370Z was first being rumored about its specs. Been a while now. I bet it is kind of like the lt1/ls1 thing!
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That's about right
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What I always did was punch it for a second so the computer puts it in the right gear and I hold it in that gear with the shifter. Then I get ready to race.

That way you don't have to wait for it to kick down and you won't kill your tranny. Once you start to go at it, just click it back into drive, don't bother shifting for each gear, the computer does it all.
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
oh we over at the 370 forum make fun of the 350 forum. there is like a big split in the nissan world when it comes to the 350 guys and the 370. they dont like the fact a full bolton 350z gets walked by a stock 370z.
Ya I had a 6spd G35 sedan and the 350z guys used to get wicked upset if I beat them.

I can only imagine how they get if they are maxed out with bolt ons and a stock 370z walks all over them
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not bad man these things are fast from what i can tell. i just ran a g37 which i think is a little heavier this weekend from 60-70 rolls and could barely pull a car or two.


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