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06-01-2010, 10:03 AM
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Not true...
The only official track times for the Cobalt SS (done by journalists or GM) include no times where it is quicker than any C6. It's been tested at VIR, Laguna Seca, the Nurburgring, Streets of Willow, and El Toro. While its lap times at those tracks are very good, it wasn't quicker than any C6 model at any of them.
In fact, it was even slower than the 2010 SS Camaro at VIR, Laguna Seca, and the Nurburgring.
The only official track times for the Cobalt SS (done by journalists or GM) include no times where it is quicker than any C6. It's been tested at VIR, Laguna Seca, the Nurburgring, Streets of Willow, and El Toro. While its lap times at those tracks are very good, it wasn't quicker than any C6 model at any of them.
In fact, it was even slower than the 2010 SS Camaro at VIR, Laguna Seca, and the Nurburgring.
06-01-2010, 09:44 PM
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Last I heard, the Turbo Cobalt's were easily able to get up to around 430-440whp, but after that there injectors run outta duty cycle and there fueling system is maxed out. And being that they are direct injection, you can't just slap a bigger set it! Something like 20,000psi or some such? But the engine/trans could easily handle that 440whp.
Anybody ever offer upgraded injectors/fuel system yet?
Anybody ever offer upgraded injectors/fuel system yet?
And when people say they handle well they are understating that fact like non other, im not sure if it still holds the record but when it came out it held the world record for fastest fwd production car around the nurburgring. Many magazines (i hate quoting them but they have solid figures) have proven that the SS outhandles Z51 equipped C6 vettes., and on small to medium tracks avtually has quicker lap times.
06-02-2010, 07:08 AM
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No need. Fuel system is fully capable of over 500whp. It's the tuning or lack there of for us HPT guys. Trifecta has the fuel tables unlocked using their own modified OS but no one likes not having their own control over there vehicle, at least those of us who actually care it seems.... HPT is "working on it"... and will be available with the 2.24 release. And yes, the engine and trans are handling 400+whp just fine.
There are plenty, go over to CSS.net and find out. Some shop cars pushing 530ish+ on their mustang dyno.
The car doesn't have a set "boost". It has a target air load and will increase or decrease boost to achieve the desired air load. FWIW, my SS/TC was only pushing 15psi stock.
I don't read many magazines but in a HUGE shootout at VIR, it blew the competition away, including all of the AWD cars. Can't vouch for much else aside from the fact that this car handles like its on ******* RAILS!
No doubt, WILL out handle. However, my bone stock 01 SS went 107 all day long. Never tracked the SS/TC stock but I think it would be around 102-103. Now self tuned... Well past that
There are plenty, go over to CSS.net and find out. Some shop cars pushing 530ish+ on their mustang dyno.
The car doesn't have a set "boost". It has a target air load and will increase or decrease boost to achieve the desired air load. FWIW, my SS/TC was only pushing 15psi stock.
I don't read many magazines but in a HUGE shootout at VIR, it blew the competition away, including all of the AWD cars. Can't vouch for much else aside from the fact that this car handles like its on ******* RAILS!
No doubt, WILL out handle. However, my bone stock 01 SS went 107 all day long. Never tracked the SS/TC stock but I think it would be around 102-103. Now self tuned... Well past that
06-02-2010, 11:03 AM
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This cobalt ss ran up along side of me cruising at 70 mph and he looked at me "like whats up"?. I nailed the ls1 and he nailed that lil cobalt ss and blew by me and he kept pulln hard. I got on side of him after he slowed down and come to find out his ss is modified and turbo. He's pushing 420 hp in that lil thing. So after all, i didnt feel as bad.
06-02-2010, 12:50 PM
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There is ONE lnf making over 500whp
And ONE lnf non shop car making over 400whp
And the avg on stock turbo with full bolts on and tune make mid 300s. And still have problems with lightly modded gtos
And ONE lnf non shop car making over 400whp
And the avg on stock turbo with full bolts on and tune make mid 300s. And still have problems with lightly modded gtos
06-02-2010, 12:50 PM
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There is ONE lnf making over 500whp
And ONE lnf non shop car making over 400whp
And the avg on stock turbo with full bolts on and tune make mid 300s. And still have problems with lightly modded gtos
And ONE lnf non shop car making over 400whp
And the avg on stock turbo with full bolts on and tune make mid 300s. And still have problems with lightly modded gtos
06-02-2010, 02:28 PM
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No, only Trifecta tuned cars have problems with "lightly modded" GTO's. Lightly modded meaning weight reduction, Headers(no cats), intake and tune... Right?
The same "lightly modded" GTO that was trapping 114-115 mph and was only able to come around the Trifecta tuned cobalt by around 110-120? The same "lightly modded" GTO that was alone in the GTO while the Camera man was in the Cobalt? Yea. ONE video show's it's just having so much trouble with "lightly modded" GTO's that go bottom 12's and trap 114+
Nice try
Edit - Since we're going the way of "One video proves all" mentality, here's TWO videos
Exhaust, intake and tune Cobalt vs some pretty formidable cars and it was HP tuned, not trifecta. Looks like it does pretty damn well too...
"Cobalt SS vs LS1 F Body vs 05-09 GT Mods are listed in Video"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAAAf-hSkkU
"Same Cobalt SS Turbo vs LS1 Z28 with Intake and Full Exhaust Trapped 112 (6 speed not auto)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgx5sMu-bcI
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06-02-2010, 02:40 PM
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Ya we r talkin about the same gto. The cobalt was at like 29psi.
And the fact they have terrible power bands. That stg1 isn't very quick they lose to stg2 lsj with full bolt ons..
And the fact they have terrible power bands. That stg1 isn't very quick they lose to stg2 lsj with full bolt ons..
06-02-2010, 06:04 PM
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do you see how funny that statement is?
so the last gen SC with a tune and FULL bolt ons can keep up with a very safe gm tune only TC?
newsflash: it take a few a few mods on an lt1 to keep up with an ls1, it takes a few mods on a 99 GT to keep up with a 04 GT, takes a few mods on a 350Z to keep up with a 370Z.
your logic is humorous to me.
so the last gen SC with a tune and FULL bolt ons can keep up with a very safe gm tune only TC?
newsflash: it take a few a few mods on an lt1 to keep up with an ls1, it takes a few mods on a 99 GT to keep up with a 04 GT, takes a few mods on a 350Z to keep up with a 370Z.
your logic is humorous to me.
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06-02-2010, 07:34 PM
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ok i see that but the ss/tc is NEWER and comes with 55hp/60tq more than the ss/sc stock so wat do u expect. more power yet cant beat the lsj due to the lsj having a better power curve.
stg2, intake, exhaust, and tune making maybe 250whp
ss/tc stg1 only making about 280whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-udI-z80TA
stg2, intake, exhaust, and tune making maybe 250whp
ss/tc stg1 only making about 280whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-udI-z80TA
06-02-2010, 11:11 PM
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You don't even know what you're talking about. No wonder...
Cool story bro.
ok i see that but the ss/tc is NEWER and comes with 55hp/60tq more than the ss/sc stock so wat do u expect. more power yet cant beat the lsj due to the lsj having a better power curve.
stg2, intake, exhaust, and tune making maybe 250whp
ss/tc stg1 only making about 280whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-udI-z80TA
stg2, intake, exhaust, and tune making maybe 250whp
ss/tc stg1 only making about 280whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-udI-z80TA
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06-03-2010, 08:39 AM
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