Eclipse GT vs Third gen
06-27-2010, 10:19 PM
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Come on guys, don't be busting on the newer gen eclipses. My first car (00 GT) would take just about any 80s/early 90s V8. I got into that scene pretty heavily and bought another 00 GT which was turbocharged. Now my turbo 3G which only makes 7 psi on the stock motor would easily walk my 99 SS. The later gen eclipses are basically big blocks of the import world and are definitely no joke if you know what you're doing.
06-27-2010, 11:25 PM
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The later gen Eclipses are the laughingstock of the import world. Sorry.
06-28-2010, 03:05 AM
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I'm not sure if you think we are talking about the 4th Gen Eclipse...because we're not...
The 3rd gen GT (V6 model) with 200hp traps ~90ish, which is slower than any turbo DSM.
Besides, who the **** cares what a stock DSM runs?
06-28-2010, 10:03 AM
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I honestly don't care what it traps in the quartermile; a 1G DSM can do that with just a MBC and open DP, and has MUCH more potential.
The only reason I'm ripping on them is because he said they were the "big blocks" of the import world.
240SXs are dogfuck slow when stock, does that make them inferior to the fat, ugly, fail wheel drive 4th gen Eclipse? Not even close.
Obviously I don't care too much for the 2000+ models of Eclipse. 
06-28-2010, 07:49 PM
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WWD 3rd and 4th gen Eclipses ARE the laughingstock of the import world.
I honestly don't care what it traps in the quartermile; a 1G DSM can do that with just a MBC and open DP, and has MUCH more potential.
The only reason I'm ripping on them is because he said they were the "big blocks" of the import world.
240SXs are dogfuck slow when stock, does that make them inferior to the fat, ugly, fail wheel drive 4th gen Eclipse? Not even close.
Obviously I don't care too much for the 2000+ models of Eclipse.
I honestly don't care what it traps in the quartermile; a 1G DSM can do that with just a MBC and open DP, and has MUCH more potential.
The only reason I'm ripping on them is because he said they were the "big blocks" of the import world.
240SXs are dogfuck slow when stock, does that make them inferior to the fat, ugly, fail wheel drive 4th gen Eclipse? Not even close.
Obviously I don't care too much for the 2000+ models of Eclipse.I could go round and round about performance but lets face it, at the end of the day, the person with deeper pockets is always going to come out ahead.
06-28-2010, 09:51 PM
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Are you judging them because of the exterior or because you're completely belligerent? From an exterior stand point, I can agree that 99.9% of the 3G eclipses look gay as hell when modded.
I could go round and round about performance but lets face it, at the end of the day, the person with deeper pockets is always going to come out ahead.
I could go round and round about performance but lets face it, at the end of the day, the person with deeper pockets is always going to come out ahead.
That's hardly the main reason I despise them.
It might be a bit personal for me because Mitsubishi took a good thing (the 2G Eclipse) and completely ruined it. I don't hold them personally responsible because they probably sold more, but that doesn't change the fact that they were worse cars in nearly every way than the previous 2G (and 1G), especially from an enthusiast standpoint.
06-29-2010, 07:18 AM
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Back in the day I had a 90 Eclipse GT it was not awd just regular front wheel, 5spd and I am not making this up but that car moved! I have drove and ridden in several others and they were all complete dogs and I have no idea why the one I had was so fast. I sold it about 6 years ago and I still see it around town every once in a while.
When I had that car my neighbor had a 96 TA and we raced several times and every time he would get me out of the hole but as soon as the turbo came in it would just pull right around that LT1. I will say that no matter what bolt you touched on that car it would break, but man that thing would move. Oh and I have always had real cars don't worry I just had that thing for a DD and gas miliage. I just got down putting a LS3 into my 2000 Z28
When I had that car my neighbor had a 96 TA and we raced several times and every time he would get me out of the hole but as soon as the turbo came in it would just pull right around that LT1. I will say that no matter what bolt you touched on that car it would break, but man that thing would move. Oh and I have always had real cars don't worry I just had that thing for a DD and gas miliage. I just got down putting a LS3 into my 2000 Z28
06-29-2010, 07:26 AM
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I know a guy that has a 2008 3v GT with tune, exhaust, long tube headers, intake, 4:10s MGW STS Pullies etc, and he is only running 13.8s in the 1/4. He BARELY made it to 13.0 with slicks.
Magazine drivers usually get the average of what a car can do when driven properly. Usually people can get said cars about .1 to .3 faster than magazine times when driving the crap out of it. It's an average low 14 sec car that has the ability to be a high 13 second car with the right conditions and person.
06-29-2010, 07:30 AM
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06-29-2010, 11:53 AM
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Grand Ams, I mean 3rd Gen Eclipses, ARE ugly, yes.
That's hardly the main reason I despise them.
It might be a bit personal for me because Mitsubishi took a good thing (the 2G Eclipse) and completely ruined it. I don't hold them personally responsible because they probably sold more, but that doesn't change the fact that they were worse cars in nearly every way than the previous 2G (and 1G), especially from an enthusiast standpoint.
That's hardly the main reason I despise them.
It might be a bit personal for me because Mitsubishi took a good thing (the 2G Eclipse) and completely ruined it. I don't hold them personally responsible because they probably sold more, but that doesn't change the fact that they were worse cars in nearly every way than the previous 2G (and 1G), especially from an enthusiast standpoint.
From an enthusiasts stand point you should be even more enthused about the potential of the 4g64 and 6G72. Throw an evo head on the sohc 4g64 and the sky's the limit. Drop forged rods/pistons in the 72 and it'll handle as much boost as you can throw at it. Hell, my bone stock 72 made over 300whp for years and was beaten on daily without a single issue.
So basically, what you're trying to say is that you believe mitsubishi ruined the eclipse because they gave it a more modern style?
06-29-2010, 08:15 PM
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LOL That really shows how much you know. The 3G is almost identical to the 2Gs underneath the body panels. The suspension is identical...
The only thing Mitsu did was swap out the dsm for something reliable. I also take it that you've never seen an awd 3g or realize that 75% of the parts for the conversion are a direct swap from the 2g.
The only thing Mitsu did was swap out the dsm for something reliable. I also take it that you've never seen an awd 3g or realize that 75% of the parts for the conversion are a direct swap from the 2g.
99.999% of them are fail wheel drive.
From an enthusiasts stand point you should be even more enthused about the potential of the 4g64 and 6G72. Throw an evo head on the sohc 4g64 and the sky's the limit. Drop forged rods/pistons in the 72 and it'll handle as much boost as you can throw at it. Hell, my bone stock 72 made over 300whp for years and was beaten on daily without a single issue.
Are you seriously trying to compare the engines and drivetrain in the 3G to the DSMs?
Show me one 3G in the 10s, and I'll show you 100 1Gs and 50 2Gs.
4G64s are only desirable when built and with a superior head from a 63T. Then you have to set up a turbo kit and completely overhaul your ECU. It is not designed to be a high performance car, at least not any more than a Tiburon or Stratus R/T.
There have been dozens of stock block 4G63Ts running over 400whp reliably. 300whp is BPU.
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06-29-2010, 08:21 PM
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I don't think anyone would argue that particular 2nd gen looks better than that particular 3rd gen, but that is a bit of an unfair comparison; that 3rd gen is basically stock with some aftermarket wheels.
. I'm not saying I don't prefer that bodystyle anyway, just sayin...