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Old 06-16-2010, 09:26 PM
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So im headed to school in my 88 trans am gta (ls1/t56/9") and I see this red Newer eclipse gt swerving in and out of traffic, then he got stuck behind a car that died at a stop light, he peeled out and was in front of me a little. As luck would have it I ended up right behind him at the stop light going out of town to the school. as soon as the light turned green he floored it, I could hear his tires squeel, I was still in first gear (had my drag radials on) and I switched lanes and had him a little into 2nd gear...I could tell the kid was mad, he wouldnt even look at me and immediatly turned off.

I was dissapointed, I thought they were a little faster than that. I used to work with a guy who had one, he thought it was the fastest car on the planet.
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owned haha, nice ride too!
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The 6spds are like high 13s cars with good drivers, which is nothing to worry about with an LS1/T56 3rd gen.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The 6spds are like high 13s cars with good drivers, which is nothing to worry about with an LS1/T56 3rd gen.


LOL, no they aren't.

Which generation are you talking about?
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I was thinking low 14's.

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Those things suck! I'm surprised you even thought for a second that he might have had a chance lol. Nice kill!
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Originally Posted by 1992TsiAWD


LOL, no they aren't.

Which generation are you talking about?
The current generation... most mags have them LOW 14s @ ~101mph.
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LS1 +3rd gen = Pretty evil

Even a stock LS1 in a 3rd gen will run some quick numbers, especially with gears and a good driver. I still can't get over that Iroc-z with the 6.0 on spray that some one has on here....
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Originally Posted by $750 L98
LS1 +3rd gen = Pretty evil

Even a stock LS1 in a 3rd gen will run some quick numbers, especially with gears and a good driver. I still can't get over that Iroc-z with the 6.0 on spray that some one has on here....
Just curious what did you make for power on your 6.0 combo? My bro is putting an LQ4 in an iroc and wants an idea of what a cam only set up will make. Granted the LQ4 has .5 less compression.
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High 13s? AHahahahah wtf are you smoking. Those things are slow as ****.
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I wouldn't say the brand new ones are high 13's, more like low 14's at ~100mph
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
Just curious what did you make for power on your 6.0 combo? My bro is putting an LQ4 in an iroc and wants an idea of what a cam only set up will make. Granted the LQ4 has .5 less compression.
I never had it dyno'd when it was "working", but we estimated it to be around 350-370rwhp. Probably the lower number, for whatever reason they put a thick gasket on mine and I was running about 8.7:1 compression with a torquer V2 cam....that really makes for crappy numbers when you bleed off already low compression lol

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Should be around 400rwhp give or take.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
High 13s? AHahahahah wtf are you smoking. Those things are slow as ****.
You say that, but obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
I wouldn't say the brand new ones are high 13's, more like low 14's at ~100mph
You however, do know what I'm talking about. And yes, low 14s is surely a better "average" number.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You say that, but obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Well, my exs boyfriend has an eclipse and I have smoked that thing about 80 times back and forth.

And funny you mention it. The last 3 weeks there have been 3 eclipses come out to the track and none have run high 13s/low 14s. The best time one got was a 14.8, but okay!
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Originally Posted by $750 L98
I never had it dyno'd when it was "working", but we estimated it to be around 350-370rwhp. Probably the lower number, for whatever reason they put a thick gasket on mine and I was running about 8.7:1 compression with a torquer V2 cam....that really makes for crappy numbers when you bleed off already low compression lol

I have it torn down currently for some more mods soon I am looking at:
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LS7 lifters
LS6 intake
LT headers
True duals
Torquer v2 cam
2800 stall
3.73 rear
etc. etc.
Should be around 400rwhp give or take.
Sweet man, thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
Those things suck! I'm surprised you even thought for a second that he might have had a chance lol. Nice kill!
I didnt think he would win, but he was acting like an *** so I thought he needed to be taught a lesson. he probably thought I was some 14-15 sec third gen and thought he could take me. hehehe
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Originally Posted by firechicken76
I didnt think he would win, but he was acting like an *** so I thought he needed to be taught a lesson. he probably thought I was some 14-15 sec third gen and thought he could take me. hehehe
Yea I love that. Isn't it nice having a car that has been looked down upon since they were made because of the "typical" derelicts that owned them, and the 4 cylinder like horsepower.....and then blowing someones doors off with an LS1 swap? LOL, puts a grin on my face just thinking about it.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
Well, my exs boyfriend has an eclipse and I have smoked that thing about 80 times back and forth.

And funny you mention it. The last 3 weeks there have been 3 eclipses come out to the track and none have run high 13s/low 14s. The best time one got was a 14.8, but okay!
I don't care what you saw at your track. When Car and Driver can run a 14.2 @ 101mph, it's a low 14s car.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I don't care what you saw at your track. When Car and Driver can run a 14.2 @ 101mph, it's a low 14s car.
So someone ran a 12.5 out of a stock LS3, does that mean the camaro is now a mid 12 car???? And someone ran a 12.5 in a 5.0, the 5.0 a mid 12 car?
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If you're lining up against one on the street/track, you shouldn't be oblivious to what they CAN run. If I'm lining up against a stock 5.0 in my stock LS1 4th gen, I should know that I am going to lose. Even if I ran a 13.1 in my stock LS1 4th gen, and saw some tool run a 13.2 in his stock 5.0 at my local track. Not every driver is the same, so all you can really do is compare what you know the cars can do.


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