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Old 06-24-2010, 10:57 PM
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Yes it was supercharged but over his loud exhaust I could barley hear it but it was there. I Know with those mods he should be around 450. I was just as surprised about the out come as some of you are. After he told me his mods I thought I just beat the driver not the car. But I do think my car is pretty strong or he just had a turd. But as a great street racer once quoted "it don't matter if you win by a inch or a mile, a wins a win" haha.
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Originally Posted by T AM
Good kill.
Yeah I hear there the best!
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Good kill sir!

Originally Posted by SAPS
what is a terminator?
Ford named them that because like Skull said they were to be the car that terminated the competition battles with the camaro/vette since when they came out the camaro was still in production

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we have a yellow termi in my car club that has pully, exhaust, intake and was a dog. he ought a canned tune that didnt work at all. he maybe got 380rwhp. basically stock numbers because the tune was ****.he freaked out on dyno day cuz he really thought it was strong.

he fixed it with a proper tune and well he's maxxed the stock blower now. they can be **** even with boltons with a crap tune. termi's can lose too.
Agreed there are so many different variables and "tuners" dont really benefit the car very much they need a dyno tune.

Also what a lot of people dont know is the stock pulley is a 3.4 I believe and they make all kinds of pullies like a 3.0 which would only get about 400 maybe all the way to a 2.67 which can put them about 460+rwhp
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Originally Posted by F8L BYT
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Ford named them that because like Skull said they were to be the car that terminated the competition battles with the camaro/vette since when they came out the camaro was still in production



Agreed there are so many different variables and "tuners" dont really benefit the car very much they need a dyno tune.

Also what a lot of people dont know is the stock pulley is a 3.4 I believe and they make all kinds of pullies like a 3.0 which would only get about 400 maybe all the way to a 2.67 which can put them about 460+rwhp

Yeah Im still learning about the different set ups for these cars. That way I don't look to dumb once my car is all built up and im racing the big boys.
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Originally Posted by SSkull
The name came from the idea that the 03-04 SVT Cobras were supposed to 'Terminate' any competition between the mustangs and the fbodies/corvette.

At least that's what I believe the name came from unless I've just misunderstood after all these years. Which I could very well be since it doesn't make much sense that they made them to compete with the camaro/trans ams starting in 03 when that was the first year that they were out of production(camaro/trans am)
It was the code name given to the project by Ford. Just as the GT500 was cod named the 'Condor'. Terminator is very fitting IMO. Now Condor...not so much.
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Condor? Really?
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Originally Posted by SSkull
The name came from the idea that the 03-04 SVT Cobras were supposed to 'Terminate' any competition between the mustangs and the fbodies/corvette.

At least that's what I believe the name came from unless I've just misunderstood after all these years. Which I could very well be since it doesn't make much sense that they made them to compete with the camaro/trans ams starting in 03 when that was the first year that they were out of production(camaro/trans am)
Correct, although I don't believe it was ever intended to compete with the vette, just the F-bodies.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Condor? Really?
Right...
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Good kill. How do 03-04 cobras compare to a 08 gt500 speed wise? I've only got
a chance to run a intake, exhaust pulley, tune 08 gt500.
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Originally Posted by unit213
It was the code name given to the project by Ford. Just as the GT500 was cod named the 'Condor'. Terminator is very fitting IMO. Now Condor...not so much.
No ****. I didn't know that. The Condor is a gay name for a car.
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Nice kill.
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I love how people automatically assume that ALL pulley Cobras are running a 2.67 and making 460+Rwhp.

When my buddy bought his 03 and it had a "smaller pulley" on it just like this guy did. Whether it was the same size or not, I don't know just like nobody in here knows what size pulley this guy has. Buddy made 440-ish Rwhp.. He ran my buddies 03Z06 with a CAI and they were about neck and neck with the Z slightly pulling every gear.

Good kill!
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Z06>Cobra

Can't beat the lightness and aerodynamics.

I've always seen Mustangs and Camaros as beefed up daily drivers. The vette is def a "sports car"
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I love how people automatically assume that ALL pulley Cobras are running a 2.67 and making 460+Rwhp.

When my buddy bought his 03 and it had a "smaller pulley" on it just like this guy did. Whether it was the same size or not, I don't know just like nobody in here knows what size pulley this guy has. Buddy made 440-ish Rwhp.. He ran my buddies 03Z06 with a CAI and they were about neck and neck with the Z slightly pulling every gear.

Good kill!
That would be a 2.65 pulley. The vast majority of people are running either a 2.93, a 2.80, or a 2.76 upper pulley. All are very close in the rwhp they produce (~10-15rwhp). It's a safe bet to assume that someone with a pulley only Cobra is running one of those.
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Originally Posted by unit213
That would be a 2.65 pulley. The vast majority of people are running either a 2.93, a 2.80, or a 2.76 upper pulley. All are very close in the rwhp they produce (~10-15rwhp). It's a safe bet to assume that someone with a pulley only Cobra is running one of those.
What about would a 2.93 produce? And # wise?

Just curious is all..
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Lemons you are right apullied cobra could mean a lot of different things. Some people just run a 2.93 upper and make 430-440 and lets say they dont have any cooling mods and cant drive= absolute turd. or if you run into some one makeing 470-480 with all the cooling mods and driver mod= very strong street car.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Lemons you are right apullied cobra could mean a lot of different things. Some people just run a 2.93 upper and make 430-440 and lets say they dont have any cooling mods and cant drive= absolute turd. or if you run into some one makeing 470-480 with all the cooling mods and driver mod= very strong street car.
That is why I dislike running up on cobras.. Could be 400Rwhp, could be 700Rwhp.




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