Ls1 vs H22 Honda
08-25-2010, 12:02 PM
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You guys live in pretty exciting places to see all these swapped Honda. The most I see are basically stock but with the crazy modifications that consist of lowering and fart cans. And everytime I even hear about an engine swapped civic in my area it doesn't take a month for the thing to fall apart or get wrecked. And even then there's no crazy builds that would get their cars out of the 14s or even 13s. I'm not trying to say that a decent Civic can't be built but it seems like when they try to go for a lot of power the blocks just can't handle it. They never seem to last long. 
And yeah man it seems like their car has to be GUTTED, like almost having nothing just to have any advantage or be real competition. I don't see the point in having headache after headache... buy a car with real displacement and a real drivetrain if you want to go fast.
And yeah man it seems like their car has to be GUTTED, like almost having nothing just to have any advantage or be real competition. I don't see the point in having headache after headache... buy a car with real displacement and a real drivetrain if you want to go fast.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedi...n-sleeper.html
I have owned a few honda swaps myself, one was gutted since it was basically a track car but none of my daily drivers were. Its really p to the person if they want to gut it or not, its not a neccessity, but lots of ricers seem to buy a bone stock honda and gut it just for the sake of gutting lol
08-25-2010, 12:14 PM
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I know man... Kind of confusing. I guess I need to put 1/8 in there, sorry.
I'm only a "douche bag" to idiots. I read your posts, no need to read them again. If you saw I trapped 96mph in my last car on motor, wouldn't you think I knew a little bit about what I was doing and could probably handle your average (or even above average) turbo civic in an 1/8 race with this car?
Thanks for letting me know I can't post anymore with your cute little "/end" comment.
He isn't laughing at me, moron.
I'm only a "douche bag" to idiots. I read your posts, no need to read them again. If you saw I trapped 96mph in my last car on motor, wouldn't you think I knew a little bit about what I was doing and could probably handle your average (or even above average) turbo civic in an 1/8 race with this car?
Thanks for letting me know I can't post anymore with your cute little "/end" comment.
He isn't laughing at me, moron.
IDC what you ran in ur last car lol
Good luck in the race with those liars, hope it blows
08-25-2010, 05:20 PM
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Has this really turned into a Honda vs Fbody debate on a Fbody forum... Haters gonna Hate and everyone has there own cup of tea. I'll give respect to a fast honda, **** one of my friends is buildin one to go 9's in the 1/4. But, not the ones who **** talk and think there **** dont stink. Some of them fail to realize when they run a v8 how much heavier the v8 is compared to there sub 1900lb car. Sujo ls vtec turbo is no joke if you want to build it, you don't have to ask me how I know lol
08-25-2010, 06:17 PM
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To each their own but there's simply no replacement for displacement. I give respect to anyone with a fast car, even a Honda, but there's too much trash talk when you hang out with those guys...even if you have a built hatch.
08-25-2010, 07:39 PM
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Airflow is always more important than displacement.
08-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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EG Body Style weigh around 2300lb. The car I ran was COMPLETELY GUTTED No carpet, no panels, no ac, no power steering, no radio/speakers, no anything. Everything was taken out but 2 seats and a shift ****. So i dont see why it wouldn't weigh around 1900lbs, it was legit a tin can with wheels.
08-25-2010, 09:21 PM
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08-26-2010, 01:10 AM
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EG Body Style weigh around 2300lb. The car I ran was COMPLETELY GUTTED No carpet, no panels, no ac, no power steering, no radio/speakers, no anything. Everything was taken out but 2 seats and a shift ****. So i dont see why it wouldn't weigh around 1900lbs, it was legit a tin can with wheels.
08-26-2010, 01:26 AM
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EG Body Style weigh around 2300lb. The car I ran was COMPLETELY GUTTED No carpet, no panels, no ac, no power steering, no radio/speakers, no anything. Everything was taken out but 2 seats and a shift ****. So i dont see why it wouldn't weigh around 1900lbs, it was legit a tin can with wheels.
I only gutted one of my former civics but it was pretty much what you described, i had 2 seats a dash and a ****. I really dont think i lost more then 100 lbs, and most of it was from the seat. Car was not my daily driver so i went to town on it. No carpets, just sprayed down rubber coating everywhere, no speakers. No rear windshield wiper or anything.
Like irunelevens said a gutted 1 seat CRX might have a chance at that weight but a hatch is not seeing that, and not an EG either.
08-26-2010, 07:48 AM
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And all things equal between two engines, a bigger engine is going to make more power. And turbos and s/c are fun but if I'm doing anything other than a straight line I like the feel of a naturally aspirated engine. Although Id still track an fi car as well. We all have our preferences...but technically airflow is not a replacement, its a substitute. Like I said, there's no replacement.
08-26-2010, 08:34 AM
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Not necessarily. RPM plays a big role in power as well. That's why a lot of Evo guys stick to the 2.0L instead of going to the 2.3L. Or some of the big shops run a destroked 2.4L down to a 2.1L.
08-26-2010, 10:23 AM
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As I had said, my basically stock setup made 300 and im 1000lbs lighter then 95% of u ppl lol.
My point is, this kid i know ran a 10.4 at 150 with traction problems (1-3gears and he does not have progressive boost) and he is built like the dudes u r supposed to race. and why only to 100? is that wat u trap??
My point is, this kid i know ran a 10.4 at 150 with traction problems (1-3gears and he does not have progressive boost) and he is built like the dudes u r supposed to race. and why only to 100? is that wat u trap??
08-26-2010, 11:00 AM
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Maybe I sound stupid but I don't know that much about Evo's and their engines but why on earth would you want less displacement?
08-26-2010, 11:17 AM
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08-26-2010, 11:44 AM
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My only assumption is that you'd have to rev the 2.0L out more than the 2.3L to make similar power so I guess if you want a higher revving engine go with the 2.0L?