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Old 07-14-2010, 03:12 PM
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are you saying just because you put better tires on its not stock.
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i would consider it stock if all you do is put tires on it,but thats just me,and i can see how people can say otherwise if you want to get that technical.to me a tune on a factory car is still stock to me ,its kinda like on a carb and all you do is bump the timing and tune the carb,but once again thats me.
Ok, so here's something to think about... if something is changed from the way the car came from the factory in order to make it faster, it's not stock. Is that really hard to wrap your head around? It has ******* MICKEY THOMPSONS out back. I would wager he cut a 1.6 or 1.7 60' on that run, which would put him ~.4s faster than that car would run truly stock. And you know what? I bet he still didn't run an 8.0 1/8 mile.
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Originally Posted by Davo346
and another thing i guess my definition of stock is different from some other people.my buddies m6 i was talking about had a tune and nittos,and the a4 had a stall ,tune and nittos still stock to me.i guess im just crazy.
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Originally Posted by Davo346
i would consider it stock if all you do is put tires on it,but thats just me,and i can see how people can say otherwise if you want to get that technical.to me a tune on a factory car is still stock to me ,its kinda like on a carb and all you do is bump the timing and tune the carb,but once again thats me.
Just proves my point on what people consider stock lol
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Funny you mention that. If I remember correctly my last run in with a 4th gen ended in me being about 4-5 CL in front by 140. But yeah, what do I know, I should start running some modded cars built for this ****.
Yeah , Maybe you should ..
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o.k. so you say if somebody pulls up in a 1967 camaro and pops his hood and bumps his timing up,sets the FACTORY carb,its not stock anymore.AND another thing man dont want to **** anybody off ,but in alot of orginized racing what tires are allowed in FACTORY STOCK classes ,can you tell me that.and i'll give you that putting a stall in isn't stock.
But a tune on a factory m6 car c'mon man its just like the example with the 67' camaro.all it is ,is basicly timing changes and fuel changes thats it.
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
Those numbers are definitely not correct, especially after just a tune.
He needs a second opinion, they sold him a bridge.
The 2010 in this deal was a M6 and not stock, it had the muffler deleates and a cold air box. After doing several '10' the stock mufflers are a huge restriction and kill power. Headers are not worth any power on the new Car, only worth about 3-4 horse power.

We have done several 2011 LS3's and they have all hit 461-471 at the wheels. I have one in my 2000 Camaro and i put down 465. We put one in a 05 CTS-V and it made 461, and that 2010 made 471. These numbers are all on the same Mustang dyno.

Honestly if we had not done several of them I would of thought that something was going on with the dyno but everyone has hit the same numbers after tunning. I honestly don't expect anyone to believe me over this but that is the honest truth, just ask the guys who have drove my car and they will tell ya the same. Oh and this 2010 was a freebie so he did not buy anything.

This was done at Wait4Me Perfromance by the way, Mainly do CTS-V's and GTM supercars, but we like all GM products, and even have a couple of the other guys in the shop
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Ok, so here's something to think about... if something is changed from the way the car came from the factory in order to make it faster, it's not stock. Is that really hard to wrap your head around? It has ******* MICKEY THOMPSONS out back. I would wager he cut a 1.6 or 1.7 60' on that run, which would put him ~.4s faster than that car would run truly stock. And you know what? I bet he still didn't run an 8.0 1/8 mile.
i believe a 12.69 in the 1/4 is somewhere around a 8.0x in the 1/8.so if you want to bet ,you better do your math. and i kinda doubt his 60 foot was that quick,it looked more like a 1.9,BUT thats just my crazy ***.
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Originally Posted by Davo346
i believe a 12.69 in the 1/4 is somewhere around a 8.0x in the 1/8.so if you want to bet ,you better do your math. and i kinda doubt his 60 foot was that quick,it looked more like a 1.9,BUT thats just my crazy ***.
8.0 in the 1/8 mile is just about 12.5 in the 1/4 mile.
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Originally Posted by Davo346
o.k. so you say if somebody pulls up in a 1967 camaro and pops his hood and bumps his timing up,sets the FACTORY carb,its not stock anymore.AND another thing man dont want to **** anybody off ,but in alot of orginized racing what tires are allowed in FACTORY STOCK classes ,can you tell me that.and i'll give you that putting a stall in isn't stock.
But a tune on a factory m6 car c'mon man its just like the example with the 67' camaro.all it is ,is basicly timing changes and fuel changes thats it.
If you set the carb and bump the timing, the car is tuned. Not stock.
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i believe a 12.69 in the 1/4 is somewhere around a 8.0x in the 1/8.so if you want to bet ,you better do your math. and i kinda doubt his 60 foot was that quick,it looked more like a 1.9,BUT thats just my crazy ***.
Have you been to a dragstrip before? 1.9 60' is good for a stock 99-04 Mustang GT with stock tires, NOT an LS1 Camaro on Mickey Thompsons. So yes, that is just your "crazy ***."
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Originally Posted by Gaunt
8.0 in the 1/8 mile is just about 12.5 in the 1/4 mile.
Yeah, 12.4-12.5. Typically multiply the 1/8 mile by ~1.55 (some say 1.54, some say 1.56).
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Originally Posted by Gaunt
8.0 in the 1/8 mile is just about 12.5 in the 1/4 mile.
I come up with an 12.4 in the 1/4. My car ran a 8.55 and it ran 13.2s and 8.55x1.55=13.2s..
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It even works with slower cars... my stock '94 Integra GS-R ran consistent 9.7s, and a best 1/4 of 14.97. 9.7 x 1.55 is a 15.035.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If you set the carb and bump the timing, the car is tuned. Not stock.


Have you been to a dragstrip before? 1.9 60' is good for a stock 99-04 Mustang GT with stock tires, NOT an LS1 Camaro on Mickey Thompsons. So yes, that is just your "crazy ***."
i knew you were going to say that check the video again and read the comments below the owner said his 60 foot was 1.9.and another thing so if that 67' camaro needs a tune up ,its not stock no more,your actually getting to technical.and if you dont mind go to wallace calculators to do that conversion and come back and tell me the time.and really you have done pissed me off.so if you want another thing to put in your sig here it is YOU CAN JUMP IN A PICK UP,SUCK A DICK UP,TILL YOU HICCUP.
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I don't use "calculators." I (and everyone else with a brain) go by experience. Talk to damn near anyone. And Wallace calculators was close to what I actually ran in one of my old cars, but it was .18 and ~3mph off. Not exactly something I would base an argument off of.
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Brb going to run my car with the best DRs in the world, along with 12" front wheels and will be posting my time as stock.
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Originally Posted by Z/YA
The 2010 in this deal was a M6 and not stock, it had the muffler deleates and a cold air box. After doing several '10' the stock mufflers are a huge restriction and kill power. Headers are not worth any power on the new Car, only worth about 3-4 horse power.

We have done several 2011 LS3's and they have all hit 461-471 at the wheels. I have one in my 2000 Camaro and i put down 465. We put one in a 05 CTS-V and it made 461, and that 2010 made 471. These numbers are all on the same Mustang dyno.

Honestly if we had not done several of them I would of thought that something was going on with the dyno but everyone has hit the same numbers after tunning. I honestly don't expect anyone to believe me over this but that is the honest truth, just ask the guys who have drove my car and they will tell ya the same. Oh and this 2010 was a freebie so he did not buy anything.

This was done at Wait4Me Perfromance by the way, Mainly do CTS-V's and GTM supercars, but we like all GM products, and even have a couple of the other guys in the shop
So you are saying you made about a 85-95hp gain with a tune and a cai on the 2010 camaro? forgive me if I don't believe you.

Stock camaro 375-385 rwhp
your tuned and cai camaro 471 rhwp?

stop it, fix your dyno I am surprised nobody else jumped on you for those claims, any track numbers? because that would be an 11 sec car easy.

Let's do some rough math

426 crank HP - 15% Drivetrain = 362
541 crank HP - 15% Drivetrain = 471

15% is not exact just a rough estimate it may be higher, so with a tune and cai a customers 2010 camaro made roughly 54x crank hp? that's a 115hp gain.

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Originally Posted by Z/YA
The 2010 in this deal was a M6 and not stock, it had the muffler deleates and a cold air box. After doing several '10' the stock mufflers are a huge restriction and kill power. Headers are not worth any power on the new Car, only worth about 3-4 horse power.

We have done several 2011 LS3's and they have all hit 461-471 at the wheels. I have one in my 2000 Camaro and i put down 465. We put one in a 05 CTS-V and it made 461, and that 2010 made 471. These numbers are all on the same Mustang dyno.

Honestly if we had not done several of them I would of thought that something was going on with the dyno but everyone has hit the same numbers after tunning. I honestly don't expect anyone to believe me over this but that is the honest truth, just ask the guys who have drove my car and they will tell ya the same. Oh and this 2010 was a freebie so he did not buy anything.

This was done at Wait4Me Perfromance by the way, Mainly do CTS-V's and GTM supercars, but we like all GM products, and even have a couple of the other guys in the shop
Are you saying your LS3's are making 465-471rwhp with just a tune and CAI? I'm a little confused by your post so if you could clarify....thanks
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over 500 crank hp from a cai+tune it's must be a top secret
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Yeah, 12.4-12.5. Typically multiply the 1/8 mile by ~1.55 (some say 1.54, some say 1.56).
you dont use what ,you go by experience ,you are contradicting yourself there a little bit ain't ya.
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Did you miss the part where I compared that to my ACTUAL timeslip? At least the 1.55 thing is close for e/ts. 8.0 is not even close to a 12.69.



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