bolt on Mach 1 destroyed modded LS1
10-09-2010, 06:44 PM
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I'm calling BS.. Its impossible for Mustangs to beat Camaro's! It wont ever happen.
Only kidding! Good races. I've had a terrable tendency to bite off more than I can chew with mustangs. It seems as though all the ones I race open a can of whoop *** on me. Cant ever find a 99-04 GT with just an exhaust to beat up on these days.. I only run into KB/Turbo 03/04 cobra's.
Who cares? If its not stock... It has to be modded!! Exhaust counts as a mod.
Only kidding! Good races. I've had a terrable tendency to bite off more than I can chew with mustangs. It seems as though all the ones I race open a can of whoop *** on me. Cant ever find a 99-04 GT with just an exhaust to beat up on these days.. I only run into KB/Turbo 03/04 cobra's.
I have no doubt that Stop knows his stuff - I've seen his posts here and on other forums, but I'm not going to hug his sack and defend him. He stated the Camaro was modded when it probably had only an exhaust and yet he calls his just a 'bolt-on' (last I checked, bolt-on's were modifications and he's got his fair share...).
From way he described it and the fact that he let off by 70mph WAY ahead of the Camaro, it seems to me the 'old fart' was just playing with him and had just goosed it real good to get him to play and then let off. I don't call that a 'race' - it's just screwing around on the streets (although the popo would definitely consider otherwise)
But, we'll just go ahead and say it was 'destruction' to appease the masses............
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From way he described it and the fact that he let off by 70mph WAY ahead of the Camaro, it seems to me the 'old fart' was just playing with him and had just goosed it real good to get him to play and then let off. I don't call that a 'race' - it's just screwing around on the streets (although the popo would definitely consider otherwise)
But, we'll just go ahead and say it was 'destruction' to appease the masses............
Bird
Last edited by Camaro_94; 10-09-2010 at 06:49 PM.
10-09-2010, 07:00 PM
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4 cams + 32v = lots of air into/out of the motor. The is what creates horsepower. The modular motors do not need a ton of cubes to keep up (and beat) GM stuff because of this. I don't know why its so hard to swallow. LS1s have, can, and will get beat forever. Just accept it, damnit.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
10-09-2010, 07:14 PM
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4 cams + 32v = lots of air into/out of the motor. The is what creates horsepower. The modular motors do not need a ton of cubes to keep up (and beat) GM stuff because of this. I don't know why its so hard to swallow. LS1s have, can, and will get beat forever. Just accept it, damnit.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
10-09-2010, 09:44 PM
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Nice kill man i honestly do not see around here at least a stock Mach beating a stock LS1 Z28, they run mid 13's stock.
Mod motors are no joke though, although the last one I raced I did beat pretty neatly, he had 125 shot, full race suspension slicks and skinnies and a couple of bolt-ons, had him by a car and a half at the end because I let off thinking I hit the finish then got back on it. We raced in Mexcio.....
We can all say GM is better than Ford but that won't make it true, I honestly love a few of Ford's cars, 03/04 Cobra, the newer gt500's are way sexier than the 2010 trail blazer... err i mean camaro. Good job OP I love it when people get cocky and get their asses handed to them.
Mod motors are no joke though, although the last one I raced I did beat pretty neatly, he had 125 shot, full race suspension slicks and skinnies and a couple of bolt-ons, had him by a car and a half at the end because I let off thinking I hit the finish then got back on it. We raced in Mexcio.....
We can all say GM is better than Ford but that won't make it true, I honestly love a few of Ford's cars, 03/04 Cobra, the newer gt500's are way sexier than the 2010 trail blazer... err i mean camaro. Good job OP I love it when people get cocky and get their asses handed to them.
10-09-2010, 10:57 PM
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I've been looking alittle and it seems $3,000 is all the bolts, belts, fittings, etc.. Maybe I will piece it together over a few months. I just REALLY hate the idea of putting a blower on a non forged motor. Been there before and it sucks. But building the motor = $$$$ and headache (pulling the motor and putting it back in).
10-10-2010, 02:05 AM
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10-10-2010, 03:33 AM
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Look I will give any fast car its props, but when it comes down too it all of you Ford guys around talking all this trash about how your almost 10 year newer motors and cars are "destroying" LS1's. Good Game it took you just short of a decade to do it.
What late model Ford is N/A 500hp? None, Ford uses superchargers to get there (Can't wait for the new supercharged Z28
). And get your facts straight, more displacement and stroke makes more torque, not air and valves. Big valves can do that same thing as more smaller valves. Saying you have more cams and valves is better is like saying my v10 is better then your v8, because I have more cylinders. When is the Gillette Mach 6 Mustang getting released? Its better since its a higher number.
Reality is the LSx motors are sweet. No one else is pulling big block cubes and power out of a aluminum small block. They are also popping up in new and old hot rods everywhere. They fit better then the HUGE Mod Motors and have great drivablility and power.
The BRAND new 5.0 mod motors and BRAND new 5.0 Mustangs aren't bad with all their technology, and they are Finally making some HP numbers. Good street racing. Enjoy your G/F's car, and next time post a kill story in your own car.
What late model Ford is N/A 500hp? None, Ford uses superchargers to get there (Can't wait for the new supercharged Z28
). And get your facts straight, more displacement and stroke makes more torque, not air and valves. Big valves can do that same thing as more smaller valves. Saying you have more cams and valves is better is like saying my v10 is better then your v8, because I have more cylinders. When is the Gillette Mach 6 Mustang getting released? Its better since its a higher number. Reality is the LSx motors are sweet. No one else is pulling big block cubes and power out of a aluminum small block. They are also popping up in new and old hot rods everywhere. They fit better then the HUGE Mod Motors and have great drivablility and power.
The BRAND new 5.0 mod motors and BRAND new 5.0 Mustangs aren't bad with all their technology, and they are Finally making some HP numbers. Good street racing. Enjoy your G/F's car, and next time post a kill story in your own car.
10-10-2010, 07:20 AM
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Don't matter how you make power as long as make. Ford has superchargers, GM has displacement, its the same ****. Small motors can make just as much power as a big one, just they need lots more "stuff". Like the 2011 mustang, high compression, 4 phasers for VCT, good heads, headers stock, dual runner intake. It all don't matter, as long as your fast.
10-10-2010, 08:01 AM
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4 cams + 32v = lots of air into/out of the motor. The is what creates horsepower. The modular motors do not need a ton of cubes to keep up (and beat) GM stuff because of this. I don't know why its so hard to swallow. LS1s have, can, and will get beat forever. Just accept it, damnit.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
I love how childish these arguments get when it comes down to GM vs Ford.
10-10-2010, 10:26 AM
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UNIT214......you are the man. rattle traps? no way. rattle traps... is the last thing im thinking when i get beside one. i hope i dont look like a fool is what im thinking. in the 2011 i mean. the other car isnt fair. never felt any pressure in it.
on your kill. The almighty LS1 can never be beaten! 