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Old 11-21-2010, 08:29 PM
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You guys talk like 80 to 130 is the same as 40 to 90. It takes quite a bit longer to go from 80 to 130. Which is why i was able to pull so many cars on him. I'm in the power band for much longer at those speeds. Had we gone to 150 i probably would have put another 5-6 cars on him. I like how it's really only mustang owners that are doubting this, go figure...

And yes F8L BYT 3V's are slow, considering i used to beat up on them in my GTP lol. Which had a mild cam, headers, pulley, tune...but still didn't have the top end power of this LS1.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
3V's are one of the if not the slowest peices of **** to roll off the assembly line. So yes it did happen...
Ahhh dude, did a 3V hurt your feelings or something? You sound kinda butthurt toward them.
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Originally Posted by Mystic00Z28
Yes it did happen. Why would he, or anyone for that matter, race me to 130 mph for no reason, or without trying? And inside the city limits? He was doing probably between 120 and 125 mph when i reached 130. No one goes that fast at part throttle lol. Especially not after they were just taunting me to race. I also seen him shift from 3rd to 4th with his exhaust roaring. And no it was not a V6 mustang, it said GT right on the ride. I wouldn't even bother with a V6 no matter how cocky he was. Unless it was a newer V6 that has 300+ HP.
Im not saying it was a V6, Im sure it was an 8, but it seems like you dont realize what kind of power advantage is required for one car to pull 7 cars on another in a 50mph race.
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Really you don't have much more power then say the 3v did. Being a auto and with just a lid and with slp exhaust is that just cat-back or full exhaust. I gave you props on the kill but, it just seems kinda hard to believe. Anything can happen but from that high of a roll all he had to do was a 3rd to 4th shift so shouldn't have missed it. If you think 3vs are slow I'd be more then happy to run you.
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Originally Posted by Mystic00Z28
You guys talk like 80 to 130 is the same as 40 to 90. It takes quite a bit longer to go from 80 to 130. .
Not to go from 3-4 cars to 3-4 cars lol. You'd have to have a monstrous power advantage.

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Originally Posted by 08nastygt
Really you don't have much more power then say the 3v did. Being a auto and with just a lid and with slp exhaust is that just cat-back or full exhaust. I gave you props on the kill but, it just seems kinda hard to believe. Anything can happen but from that high of a roll all he had to do was a 3rd to 4th shift so shouldn't have missed it. If you think 3vs are slow I'd be more then happy to run you.
It's just a cat-back exhaust. Headers and a tune are coming soon. Not much more power? If he was stock then he has around 250 rwhp, correct? I wouldn't be surprised if my car put down 320-330 to the ground as it sits right now. I have also raced an LT1 firebird formula that put down 280 rwhp, and i put about 3 cars on him from 40 to 80. And if you want to drive to Nebraska, I will happy to run you lol.

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Originally Posted by LightningTeg
Not to go from 3-4 cars to 3-4 cars lol. You'd have to have a monstrous power advantage.
Who was there again? Not you, ricer.
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Haha ricer that would stomp your car. My car stock made 275hp 284tq on dyno day while a stock 99 t/a made 299hp n I forget what tq. Not near enough power to pull 8 cars in that amount of time. Your car would have to be one heck of a factory freak. Maybe you were exaggerating alittle on the lengths.
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Originally Posted by 08nastygt
Haha ricer that would stomp your car. My car stock made 275hp 284tq on dyno day while a stock 99 t/a made 299hp n I forget what tq. Not near enough power to pull 8 cars in that amount of time. Your car would have to be one heck of a factory freak. Maybe you were exaggerating alittle on the lengths.
I don't care if a heavily modded acura can beat my stock camaro. I'm pretty sure my car gets 10 times as many pussies wet as his ever will lol. But that's besides the point here.

And No I'm not exaggerating at all. I pulled at least 7 lengths on him. Here are some videos that suggest that my car really is a factory freak.

My car vs a modded SRT-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ipY7SsSAlg

And here's a video of that same SRT-4 vs a 342 rwhp LS1 with LT's, stall, ORY, lid, tune, 3.73 gears, SLP maf ect... My car pulled about the same on that SRT-4 as the 342 rwhp LS1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVd5c...eature=related

Heres another vid of that more modded LS1 and SRT-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEkXQ...eature=related
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So you now think that your stock-stall 3.23-geared catback/lid car pulls about the same as a stalled/geared/full-exhaust car? Right... that's right up there with those 240-250rwhp intake/full exhaust Mustang GTs
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
So you now think that your stock-stall 3.23-geared catback/lid car pulls about the same as a stalled/geared/full-exhaust car? Right... that's right up there with those 240-250rwhp intake/full exhaust Mustang GTs
Did you even watch the videos, moron? I also know a guy that had a cammed 2V GT with full exhaust that only put down 283 whp.
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Originally Posted by Mystic Z-28
Did you even watch the videos, moron? I also know a guy that had a cammed 2V GT with full exhaust that only put down 283 whp.
Both of you raced the same turbocharged 4cyl FWD 5spd car and got similar results... that does not necessarily mean that you would perform similarly against each other. Cams don't do very much to 2V GTs. Generally 10-20rwhp until you get into the very aggressive grinds, and ported heads.
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LOL @ a cam only adding 10-20 whp. Who the hell would go to all the trouble of a cam swap just for a lousy 15 whp?? My mild cam that i put in my GTP added 35 whp. That's only a V6. What exactly are you smoking? The fact that i had similar results as a 342 rwhp LS1 does mean that my car runs very hard for as little as it has done to it. And is probably a factory freak. I also put 3 cars on a 280 whp LT1 from 40 to 80, and he also had a lot better gearing (6 speed w/3.73's).
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You obviously know nothing about Mustangs, which is cool. But stop acting like you know what you're talking about. My bolt-on GT put down 267rwhp. My best friend's GT put down 265rwhp with basically the same mods. A GT similar to mine, but with longtubes and a mail-order tune IIRC (same day) put down 280/312. But yet you NEVER see bolt-on/cammed 2V GTs over 300rwhp without headwork or fairly aggressive grinds. Why do you think that might be? Oh yeah, it's because CAMS DON'T ADD THAT MUCH TO 2V 4.6 GTs. Not a hard concept to grasp. And there really aren't "factory freaks." If you car put down 320rwhp I'd be impressed, you have a stock stall, and stock gears. You are not going to be as fast as a properly-driven full exhaust/stalled/geared car. Again, not a hard concept.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You obviously know nothing about Mustangs, which is cool. But stop acting like you know what you're talking about. My bolt-on GT put down 267rwhp. My best friend's GT put down 265rwhp with basically the same mods. A GT similar to mine, but with longtubes and a mail-order tune IIRC (same day) put down 280/312. But yet you NEVER see bolt-on/cammed 2V GTs over 300rwhp without headwork or fairly aggressive grinds. Why do you think that might be? Oh yeah, it's because CAMS DON'T ADD THAT MUCH TO 2V 4.6 GTs. Not a hard concept to grasp. And there really aren't "factory freaks." If you car put down 320rwhp I'd be impressed, you have a stock stall, and stock gears. You are not going to be as fast as a properly-driven full exhaust/stalled/geared car. Again, not a hard concept.
Properly driven? It was an auto just like mine lol and they went from rolls. Are you saying the guy doesn't know how to floor his car properly? And that's PATHETIC if a cammed V8 can't even put down 300 rwhp and would still get waxed by a stock LS1. Why on earth would someone put that much money into a car just to still be slow...
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You aren't exactly too high up on the totem pole either . And considering that the SRT-4 was already a car ahead of the 342rwhp Camaro before his car even downshifted, driver definitely plays a part.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You aren't exactly too high up on the totem pole either . And considering that the SRT-4 was already a car ahead of the 342rwhp Camaro before his car even downshifted, driver definitely plays a part.
Are you really that blind that you cannot see that once both mine and the other camaro got into their power bands, they were pulling about the exact same on that SRT-4? Not a hard concept to grasp here!
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Ok
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That 3 valve mustang got slaughtered by 7-8 cars regardless, from a pretty much stock LS1.
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So you pulled 3 cars starting even with a 280hp car that weighs the same as a Gt. Yet, you pulled 7-8 cars on a car making almost the same power and had the hit. Maybe he seen you coming fast and downshifted trying to stop your pull but couldn't.
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