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Old 01-07-2011, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by oddwraith
NO effin' way man. Jk.. I wonder though? hmmm.

edit: anyone have a stockish c5 Z to run one of these suckers? That I'd really like to see
I mean, they don't run 11.85's stock... I ran a 12.11 in my stock Z06 with tires, I don't see them doing this.
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Originally Posted by oddwraith
In reality though.... how would a stock ls2 goat typically run against a stock '11 GT with the better gears?
Stock for stock automatics in the 1/4 mile? (GTO's all have 3.45 gears btw) I would say the 5.0 would be ahead by .2 sec and 2mph.

From a 50-120 roll you could expect the stang to have 2 cars IF, and I mean IF the 5.0 guy was already in gear and not waiting for the slow torque management impaired downshifting.

The Coyote 5.0 engine puts at least 20rwhp more to the tires, weighs 200lbs less, and has a trans that gets it to the sweetspot of power (over 4300rpms) quickly from any roll speed. That being said, the LS2 has the equivelant of big block torque compared to the high revving 'smallblock' 5.0 Coyote engine. It's just that the damned 6spd auto trans of the 5.0 works so damned well at hiding that weakness- and it also has a OEM stock 2400-2600 stall converter to help at the launch. (I've brake-stalled 2 different 5.0 auto 'stangs to 2200-2300rpms. Compared to most 'normal' stock converters like in my GTO that stall to around 1700-1800rpms stock.)
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Originally Posted by fiveoh
Mines an auto they all come with 3.15's no option for different gears from the factory. It ran 12.90 @ 111 stock with 300 miles in 800' da a few weeks ago. I've since added a tune. He definately wasnt the best driver or it was an auto. No chirps or hard shifts from the GTO.
Damn, just a tune only now? Or CAI, X-pipe, catback?

Every track is different and I dont know what track those stock numbers came from, but they are impressive! If you can hook with your tune now you should be able to drop down into the 12.4 @ 113mph range I bet. Knock a couple tenths off if you have more than just a tune.
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^^^That's what I'm sayin'^^^ Impressive to sell it short.
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Originally Posted by oddwraith
NO effin' way man. Jk.. I wonder though? hmmm.

edit: anyone have a stockish c5 Z to run one of these suckers? That I'd really like to see
My buddy ran one with more mods done he had just Vararam Intake and SLP Cat Back Exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzR2IKg3WM0
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Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney
My buddy ran one with more mods done he had just Vararam Intake and SLP Cat Back Exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzR2IKg3WM0
yea the buddy who doesn't tell people his mods! LOL

just jking, he has a good running C5Z

https://ls1tech.com/forums/street-ra...ang-video.html

btw I ran a best of 11.96 at 117mph with a vararam and m/t et streets with a 1.79 60', spinning just a bit. Car ran consistent 116-117mph traps that day. I think for a 5.0 to run with a C5Z it will need full exhaust, CAI and a tune.
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Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney
My buddy ran one with more mods done he had just Vararam Intake and SLP Cat Back Exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzR2IKg3WM0
Wholly crap that was a whooping! You telling me that Z06 was just cai/catback?! Man that 5.0 owner must have felt that beatdown for a couple days at least!!!
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Originally Posted by fiveoh
Mines an auto they all come with 3.15's no option for different gears from the factory. It ran 12.90 @ 111 stock with 300 miles in 800' da a few weeks ago. I've since added a tune. He definately wasnt the best driver or it was an auto. No chirps or hard shifts from the GTO.
My GTO ran a 12.5 @ 111.74 all stock with just a nitto radial on the stock rear wheels. The DA was +1500 and it was my 1st time ever racing the car at that track. It was also a leap year and I crossed the path of a black cat on the way there.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Wholly crap that was a whooping! You telling me that Z06 was just cai/catback?! Man that 5.0 owner must have felt that beatdown for a couple days at least!!!
Yeah it just had 2 simple bolt ons. His car ran very well, I guess you could say "factory freak" but he pulled my 03 Z06 by 2 cars stock for stock, his **** just runs very well. But right now he has the highest Cam only Z06 in DFW that I know of. But he got banned on here b/c one of his roomates trolled on his account while he was on vacation for a week.
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Originally Posted by scramblerman
yea the buddy who doesn't tell people his mods! LOL
btw I ran a best of 11.96 at 117mph with a vararam and m/t et streets with a 1.79 60', spinning just a bit. Car ran consistent 116-117mph traps that day. I think for a 5.0 to run with a C5Z it will need full exhaust, CAI and a tune.


weight man. no way a 5.0 can overcome that. i dont even think about z's. there is a minor bolt on c5 vert i wanna run at the plant. even then im not sure ill win. 400 lbs i s a lot.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Stock for stock automatics in the 1/4 mile? (GTO's all have 3.45 gears btw) I would say the 5.0 would be ahead by .2 sec and 2mph.

From a 50-120 roll you could expect the stang to have 2 cars IF, and I mean IF the 5.0 guy was already in gear and not waiting for the slow torque management impaired downshifting.

The Coyote 5.0 engine puts at least 20rwhp more to the tires, weighs 200lbs less, and has a trans that gets it to the sweetspot of power (over 4300rpms) quickly from any roll speed. That being said, the LS2 has the equivelant of big block torque compared to the high revving 'smallblock' 5.0 Coyote engine. It's just that the damned 6spd auto trans of the 5.0 works so damned well at hiding that weakness- and it also has a OEM stock 2400-2600 stall converter to help at the launch. (I've brake-stalled 2 different 5.0 auto 'stangs to 2200-2300rpms. Compared to most 'normal' stock converters like in my GTO that stall to around 1700-1800rpms stock.)
it has more torque, but it aint a world of difference. For such small displacement the 5.0 sure packs a punch in the tq category

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Originally Posted by Roger Z06
I mean, they don't run 11.85's stock... I ran a 12.11 in my stock Z06 with tires, I don't see them doing this.
Are you talking about a stock C5 Z06 vs. stock 2011 GT? That wouldn't even be fair.
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Tune only, stock air filter stock pzero tires. 600ish DA
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Good job. I love all the **** in here hating on the Mustang. A bunch of **** for brains in here.
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Originally Posted by TrikeMike
Good job. I love all the **** in here hating on the Mustang. A bunch of **** for brains in here.
You sound pretty intelligent yourself.
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I really like the new 5.0 and I think it will take off with after-market mods just like the LS1 did. But to think a stock C5 Z06 and Stock 5.0 Mustang are gonna be neck and neck is just retarded.
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Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney
I really like the new 5.0 and I think it will take off with after-market mods just like the LS1 did. But to think a stock C5 Z06 and Stock 5.0 Mustang are gonna be neck and neck is just retarded.
nobody said they would be neck and neck but it should still be a decent race. The 5.0 has the obvious power advantage and gearing as well, but the z06 does have weight on its side.
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
nobody said they would be neck and neck but it should still be a decent race. The 5.0 has the obvious power advantage and gearing as well, but the z06 does have weight on its side.
Well I will take 400lbs over 30hp any day!
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Originally Posted by TooMuchMoney
Well I will take 400lbs over 30hp any day!
i would too. But not at the expense of only seating 2 people max.
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
i would too. But not at the expense of only seating 2 people max.
True, but who really has 4 people ever in the Trans Am or Camaro when there racing? I never do when I am out at the races but there are those select times when I have all 4 seats full but thats just usually b/c my girl and some of her friends wanna ride in a fast car to the movies and back. But as for me and I know of many other friends with F-Body's who hardly ever use there back seat for more than just some more room for beer.


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