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Old 01-22-2011, 12:47 AM
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It'd be close though. I was just answering the man's question.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
New tech? This **** in the 'new' 5.0 has been around for 20+ years... The only reason a "tune" gains power on a Cobalt is because you can turn the boost up with the tune.

Back in the day we'd throw an exhaust on a turbo car and turn the boost up with a 3 dollar valve from hope depot and gain way more than 3mph lol
as usual any chance u get to lesson a point i make about the cobalt.

it gets old. you dont like them, we get it.

my point was a tune does a lot. regardless of it being a FI car or v8.

.6 is pretty significant for a few hundred bucks. especially when it means the difference between runnin with an ls1 goat an ls2 from a roll :p

oh wait, but not yer magical 12 second bolt on goat

and u think the new 5.0 isnt new? just because the liters sounds familiar doesnt mean it hasnt come a long way. thats like sayin the ls9 isnt new cause they been doin it since the lt1.

u kill me sometimes.

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new 5.0 > ls1 ls2 and poss ls3.... the truth shall set you free!
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:21 AM
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I'm definitely not arguing that... I love the LSx engines. But it's not just the engine, it's the whole car that counts.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:27 AM
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I love how every 5.0 thread jumps to 10+ pages quickly.

Good video OP
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
new 5.0 > ls1 ls2 and poss ls3.... the truth shall set you free!

When it comes to modding, it would be hard for the 5.0 to make up for the cubes the LS3 has..

Doesn't an LS2 dyno 350-360rwhp stock? thats in the same range. Comparing engines without the cars of course
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I'll just leave this here...

2011 GT
12.54 @ 114 at HRP 10/29 street tires
11.88 @ 116 at HRP 11/05 tune/et streets only mods
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Originally Posted by SSilver Bullet
When it comes to modding, it would be hard for the 5.0 to make up for the cubes the LS3 has..

Doesn't an LS2 dyno 350-360rwhp stock? thats in the same range. Comparing engines without the cars of course
Conventional logic tells us that's going to happen... but people were saying similar things about the Coyote motor and how it would respond to bolt-ons. So until aftermarket heads/cams/intakes come out for the new 5.0s, I'm going to reserve judgment. As it stands, the Mustang GTs are more than capable of besting Camaro SS times stock or with bolt-ons.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Conventional logic tells us that's going to happen... but people were saying similar things about the Coyote motor and how it would respond to bolt-ons. So until aftermarket heads/cams/intakes come out for the new 5.0s, I'm going to reserve judgment. As it stands, the Mustang GTs are more than capable of besting Camaro SS times stock or with bolt-ons.
true that!
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Very nice!
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I'll just leave this here...
Okay...the tires are a big mod for 1/4 times, as more the 2mph increase, nice gains

Now like I stated above, I was comparing engines, not the LS2 in a heavy GTO... I could put a stock LS1 in an RX-7, shave some weight, and beat those mustang times. I'm not saying a LS1 camaro can best a 11GT 5.0 lol, thats like comparing a stock LS1 to a stock 5.0 fox, both 10 years apart.

The new 5.0's do respond well to bolt on's, I still don't think it will win over the LS3 mod for mod
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From what I've seen, that's exactly what happens. I haven't seen Camaros match 5.0 times, stock vs. stock, or mod-for-mod.
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I don't know much about the new 5.0's, but don't they have an aggresive set-up from the factory? I could be wrong...

bolt-on for bolt-on the '10SS and '11GT are similar

But...

I've seen vids of cam only LS3's touching close to 500rwhp
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Conventional logic tells us that's going to happen... but people were saying similar things about the Coyote motor and how it would respond to bolt-ons. So until aftermarket heads/cams/intakes come out for the new 5.0s, I'm going to reserve judgment. As it stands, the Mustang GTs are more than capable of besting Camaro SS times stock or with bolt-ons.
Shouldn't be much longer! JPC already is testing a pair of cams I believe and have some modified heads for sale. I believe results will be posted soon; but from my very limited knowledge I believe the heads picked up power UP TOP but not so much in the low/mid range. These cars love to rev so we'll see what happens.

These cars are going 10s with a nitrous kit..I have a brand new one in the box just taking up space in the room but I haven't decided to install yet. Very tempting though
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Originally Posted by SSilver Bullet
I don't know much about the new 5.0's, but don't they have an aggresive set-up from the factory? I could be wrong...

bolt-on for bolt-on the '10SS and '11GT are similar

But...

I've seen vids of cam only LS3's touching close to 500rwhp
And basic bolt-on '11 GTs are hitting 440rwhp already. Ported aftermarket intake manifold and a set of cams, and 500rwhp doesn't seem to far away.
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Originally Posted by SSilver Bullet
I don't know much about the new 5.0's, but don't they have an aggresive set-up from the factory? I could be wrong...

bolt-on for bolt-on the '10SS and '11GT are similar

But...

I've seen vids of cam only LS3's touching close to 500rwhp
HPP in lewisville Tx had a bolt on 2011 hit 453rwhp those damn new 5.0's are more than impressive to me!


matter of fact Manny(the owner) bought a new kona blue automatic and with just an H pipe,catback,CAI,DR's and a tune went 11.82@117 with no stall,gears,or anything else and full weight!!!! super impressive to me!
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It would seem I'm a bit out of my league when these Stang's start bolting on, I can come close to the same with weight reduction but don't think it's fair. Time to cam it up and pray my rear holds! 2011 Gt's, I salute you
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450whp is being generous, most bolton 2011's are making 430ishwhp.
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:24 AM
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WTF is up with all these goats getting beat by mustangs lately....
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffreycastgsx
450whp is being generous, most bolton 2011's are making 430ishwhp.
I havent dynoed my car the way it is, but i would be suprised if it put down more than 400-410 on a dynojet given conditions. I think your right, hell, i dont think i'd even make 430 with longtubes added.
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