C6 Z06 vs 2012 GTR
04-28-2011, 10:18 PM
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AMS has gone 9s on pump gas with the GT-R. Also to those hating saying that its more impressive that a Z06 hung with a turbo car, the Z06 has 7.0L of displacement. Also lets not forget that the GT-R is 3900lbs has a lower power to weight ratio and has 4 seats.
Its more impressive that a car that weighs 700lbs more and makes far less hp/lb is hanging a and beating a lighter car with a bigger motor.
Another thing to everyone here, the 2012 GT-R will beat the average Z06 driver in the 1/4 4 times out of 5 stock for stock and the average ZR1 driver 3/5 times. Its ability is consistency. I would say that it hangs with vettes pretty well
04-28-2011, 11:58 PM
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I like the GTR, I really do. I could just see myself getting bored with it from what I've heard/read.
Haven't had the chance to drive one, but the words sterile and distant come to mind after reading journalist's impressions.
There's no word on AMS's site concerning the Alpha10 package on pump gas. I wonder if that would be any quicker.
Haven't had the chance to drive one, but the words sterile and distant come to mind after reading journalist's impressions.
There's no word on AMS's site concerning the Alpha10 package on pump gas. I wonder if that would be any quicker.
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04-29-2011, 12:43 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapuJYBRCIk
AMS has gone 9s on pump gas with the GT-R. Also to those hating saying that its more impressive that a Z06 hung with a turbo car, the Z06 has 7.0L of displacement. Also lets not forget that the GT-R is 3900lbs has a lower power to weight ratio and has 4 seats.
Its more impressive that a car that weighs 700lbs more and makes far less hp/lb is hanging a and beating a lighter car with a bigger motor.
Another thing to everyone here, the 2012 GT-R will beat the average Z06 driver in the 1/4 4 times out of 5 stock for stock and the average ZR1 driver 3/5 times. Its ability is consistency. I would say that it hangs with vettes pretty well
AMS has gone 9s on pump gas with the GT-R. Also to those hating saying that its more impressive that a Z06 hung with a turbo car, the Z06 has 7.0L of displacement. Also lets not forget that the GT-R is 3900lbs has a lower power to weight ratio and has 4 seats.
Its more impressive that a car that weighs 700lbs more and makes far less hp/lb is hanging a and beating a lighter car with a bigger motor.
Another thing to everyone here, the 2012 GT-R will beat the average Z06 driver in the 1/4 4 times out of 5 stock for stock and the average ZR1 driver 3/5 times. Its ability is consistency. I would say that it hangs with vettes pretty well
you are forgetting about the weak transmission in the GTR's. A buddy of mine has a 680 awhp GTR while on pump gas. 750 awhp while on race gas.
My viper was 470 rwhp at the time.
We did some 1/4 mile raceing at the same location with thje same equipment.
Iturned an 11.67 at 124 mph. He turned a 11.68 at 128 mph.
How in the world did I pull out a slight victory
his trannie isnt built up and he didnt want to risk it with agressive launching and left it in the normal launch mode.
I suspect quite a few GTR owners are afraid of breaking that expensive transmission
So wouldnt surprise me if it's closer than we think 1/4 mile wise
04-29-2011, 01:09 AM
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disagreed
you are forgetting about the weak transmission in the GTR's. A buddy of mine has a 680 awhp GTR while on pump gas. 750 awhp while on race gas.
My viper was 470 rwhp at the time.
We did some 1/4 mile raceing at the same location with thje same equipment.
Iturned an 11.67 at 124 mph. He turned a 11.68 at 128 mph.
How in the world did I pull out a slight victory
you are forgetting about the weak transmission in the GTR's. A buddy of mine has a 680 awhp GTR while on pump gas. 750 awhp while on race gas.
My viper was 470 rwhp at the time.
We did some 1/4 mile raceing at the same location with thje same equipment.
Iturned an 11.67 at 124 mph. He turned a 11.68 at 128 mph.
How in the world did I pull out a slight victory
his trannie isnt built up and he didnt want to risk it with agressive launching and left it in the normal launch mode.
I suspect quite a few GTR owners are afraid of breaking that expensive transmission
So wouldnt surprise me if it's closer than we think 1/4 mile wise
I suspect quite a few GTR owners are afraid of breaking that expensive transmission
So wouldnt surprise me if it's closer than we think 1/4 mile wise
As far as my theory it only Applies to 2012 GT-Rs, With the new improvements very few have seen lower ET's than 11.3 with a lot of them doing 11.2s and 11.1s
04-29-2011, 02:01 AM
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[QUOTE=Killemall;14846379] OK and also to one posted Cam only video. Look what you just spent to make that ZO6 to keep up with GTR. maybe love is a little strong with the ZO6 vette. But If i could have afforded a new one i would have bought one and procharged the hell out it. Maybe in couple years i just settle for used one.
Second there has been what 1 10.9 bone stock. Rest fall range all over 11s. That dont make it the standard. But there plenty of 11.1-11.2s for GTRs. Cause i know when i was at the track racing a 2009 ZO6 and he was running 12.6s. Was that what they run normally?(sarcasm)
And yes point was the GTR responds a lot better to basic mods then the ZO6. ANd to all sai dit isnt fair race..REALLY? As many said its a 7.0L. So Nissan was able to do better then the 7.0 with a smaller engine and a turbo. Sounds fimiliar to me. Ford been doing all time with chevy. 5.0-6.2...hmmm..
We can compare videos all day. We can look at videos of guys who drop 3k for cams then another 8k for blowers plus a built rear en to run what 7s.
Also look at some the standing mile GTRs there is are beating ZR1s with with both being modded like crazy
I think both cars can be very sick and it will come down to what you want.
Second there has been what 1 10.9 bone stock. Rest fall range all over 11s. That dont make it the standard. But there plenty of 11.1-11.2s for GTRs. Cause i know when i was at the track racing a 2009 ZO6 and he was running 12.6s. Was that what they run normally?(sarcasm)
And yes point was the GTR responds a lot better to basic mods then the ZO6. ANd to all sai dit isnt fair race..REALLY? As many said its a 7.0L. So Nissan was able to do better then the 7.0 with a smaller engine and a turbo. Sounds fimiliar to me. Ford been doing all time with chevy. 5.0-6.2...hmmm..
We can compare videos all day. We can look at videos of guys who drop 3k for cams then another 8k for blowers plus a built rear en to run what 7s.
Also look at some the standing mile GTRs there is are beating ZR1s with with both being modded like crazy
I think both cars can be very sick and it will come down to what you want.
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04-29-2011, 02:09 AM
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Vettes=you have to drive them to run decent times
GTR's=they drive themselves to decent times
The GTR's are no joke, just badass cars. Stick an average joe in either one, and he will run faster in the GTR than the Z06.
GTR's=they drive themselves to decent times
The GTR's are no joke, just badass cars. Stick an average joe in either one, and he will run faster in the GTR than the Z06.
04-29-2011, 02:41 AM
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you are forgetting about the weak transmission in the GTR's. A buddy of mine has a 680 awhp GTR while on pump gas. 750 awhp while on race gas.
My viper was 470 rwhp at the time.
We did some 1/4 mile raceing at the same location with thje same equipment.
Iturned an 11.67 at 124 mph. He turned a 11.68 at 128 mph.
How in the world did I pull out a slight victory
his trannie isnt built up and he didnt want to risk it with agressive launching and left it in the normal launch mode.
I suspect quite a few GTR owners are afraid of breaking that expensive transmission
So wouldnt surprise me if it's closer than we think 1/4 mile wise
you are forgetting about the weak transmission in the GTR's. A buddy of mine has a 680 awhp GTR while on pump gas. 750 awhp while on race gas.
My viper was 470 rwhp at the time.
We did some 1/4 mile raceing at the same location with thje same equipment.
Iturned an 11.67 at 124 mph. He turned a 11.68 at 128 mph.
How in the world did I pull out a slight victory
his trannie isnt built up and he didnt want to risk it with agressive launching and left it in the normal launch mode.
I suspect quite a few GTR owners are afraid of breaking that expensive transmission
So wouldnt surprise me if it's closer than we think 1/4 mile wise
Also 11.6 out 470rwhp is that normal. Sounds slow to me.
04-29-2011, 05:30 AM
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who are you laughing at dude? not quite sure what your point is with this?.... If dude shifted quicker,...he would have done better. Would your own logic agree with that?.... yes orno? The majority of people i see post videos on here suck at banging gears....suck. So,..personally i don't feel everyone can shift fast,....its a gift. . .
04-29-2011, 09:37 AM
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04-29-2011, 10:10 AM
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coulda woulda shoulda......make a claim "differentleague".....make sure you(people).....can back it up. Its an AWD automatic car....the traction deal/driver error iisnt a factor.. and the GTRs that hang out in my hood have built motors and bigger turbos. Not much more to do but drop weight.
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I'm pretty sure there's only one 7 second R32-R34 GTR and those have been raced in Australia, Japan, and the UK for a while now.
The thing that is always going to hold back the GTR is exactly what makes it quick in stock form, its AWD system.
The thing that is always going to hold back the GTR is exactly what makes it quick in stock form, its AWD system.
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LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWRBU0h5-F0
HKS vs Cam Z06
I would be down to run a GTR off the line, :-).
I've taken a GTR motor out and did the Greddy Turbo upgrade, I know a thing or 2 about GTR's.
AND, I always lap them at the track...lol...at the end of the day, it's all about WEIGHT!
I have this OLD vid from the track, I was done and just finished a cool down lap when I saw my buddy chasing down that GTR, so I jumped back on for a sec. As you can see, that viper flys (he has slicks), I'm on NT05's. I will say, the GTR driver sucks but he did hit it on the straight. I was at 480 wheel FYI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3x7CkcmrJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWRBU0h5-F0
HKS vs Cam Z06
I would be down to run a GTR off the line, :-).
I've taken a GTR motor out and did the Greddy Turbo upgrade, I know a thing or 2 about GTR's.
AND, I always lap them at the track...lol...at the end of the day, it's all about WEIGHT!
I have this OLD vid from the track, I was done and just finished a cool down lap when I saw my buddy chasing down that GTR, so I jumped back on for a sec. As you can see, that viper flys (he has slicks), I'm on NT05's. I will say, the GTR driver sucks but he did hit it on the straight. I was at 480 wheel FYI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3x7CkcmrJU
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