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Old 05-28-2011, 08:40 AM
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im sorry but if i want i can find any race of any car on youtube.

this place is for u or yer friends draging it out for us to see/discuss.

imagine if the 1st page was random youtube vids.
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
im sorry but if i want i can find any race of any car on youtube.

this place is for u or yer friends draging it out for us to see/discuss.

imagine if the 1st page was random youtube vids.
I agree Ive seen the posted video atleast 10-15 times already
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Agree people see videos of video's like this and think the camaro is faster. We have a bunch camaro guys at our local hang out. And all them agree the 5.0 is faster. I am tryng to get ione with cams and maggie to go to track, It makes 660whp guy claims he will smoke any 5.0 yet will not take it to the track. One t he vett guys said he went once at 600whp and ran 11.8 on DR's. After that he made it a dyno queen. His car does sound beastly though.




With equal drivers manual vs manual it isn't as close ad you think. Compar both best for each car and it is .3. That is a lot in drag racing. It is all because the mustang is in some case 400lbs lighter and a min. of 250.
Sounds like you need to come out to CA and teach some of the 5.0 guys how to drive because the Camaro guys both 4th and 5th gen are laying the smack down on the 5.0's left and right. At the track and definitely on the street.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Sounds like you need to come out to CA and teach some of the 5.0 guys how to drive because the Camaro guys both 4th and 5th gen are laying the smack down on the 5.0's left and right. At the track and definitely on the street.
If it didn't cost me so much to drive there and wasn't in Iraq i be all over it..LOL

ALthough I did just get a email the Army wants me to get stationed in FT. Irwin as an O.C.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
The new 5.0 is faster then ANY new camaro, period.
Not what the video showed...
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
Not what the video showed...

Yeah, the video showed an inexperienced driver in the Mustang. The track starter had to back him out of the lights because he didn't even know that he had went to far.
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
Not what the video showed...
LMAO!!! Post of the tread!!!
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Slow and slower. Sweet. Now can we stop with the random Youtube videos? Better yet, I'm going to start a thread where everyone can post randoms until their hearts are content.
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....gms making the ZL1. that should kill the 5.o right? like car rape?

(just a fyi- i love all brands as long as the car is of good quality.)
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....gms making the ZL1. that should kill the 5.o right? like car rape?

(just a fyi- i love all brands as long as the car is of good quality.)
It's a competitor for the GT500, not the 5oh. The ZL1 will do to a stock 5.0 what a GT500 will, lay the rape.
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I love the discussion of what's faster and what's this and that. This video is a perfect example of what happens in the real world. We'd all like to think that all new 5.0 mustangs run 12.5 when in reality most dont. Same goes for camaro. At the end of a day it's driver A vs driver B. Setups, wear and experience very and all that matters is the person that has the better run and comes out ahead
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Originally Posted by WSsick
It's a competitor for the GT500, not the 5oh. The ZL1 will do to a stock 5.0 what a GT500 will, lay the rape.


very nice.

i do wish that the camaro had been waay lighter when they brought it out.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
It's a competitor for the GT500, not the 5oh. The ZL1 will do to a stock 5.0 what a GT500 will, lay the rape.
I think the two will be good runs for each other. Only bad thing is the ZL1 will need tires to shine just like the GT500.

Bad thing for GM the 2013 GT500 is going to have around 620hp and will be lightened up again. They talking trying to get it down to 3600ish. The ZL1 is already said to be a same weight as current SS or a hair heavier.
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Originally Posted by willizm
I love the discussion of what's faster and what's this and that. This video is a perfect example of what happens in the real world. We'd all like to think that all new 5.0 mustangs run 12.5 when in reality most dont. Same goes for camaro. At the end of a day it's driver A vs driver B. Setups, wear and experience very and all that matters is the person that has the better run and comes out ahead
totally agree.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I think the two will be good runs for each other. Only bad thing is the ZL1 will need tires to shine just like the GT500.

Bad thing for GM the 2013 GT500 is going to have around 620hp and will be lightened up again. They talking trying to get it down to 3600ish. The ZL1 is already said to be a same weight as current SS or a hair heavier.
The ZL1 will perform very well against the current GT500. I mean, look at what the heavier CTS-V can do...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qF_Xzjl4



I'll wait until I see proof of the GT500 getting stepped up before I believe it.....but damn, I hope it is true.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
The ZL1 will perform very well against the current GT500. I mean, look at what the heavier CTS-V can do...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qF_Xzjl4



I'll wait until I see proof of the GT500 getting stepped up before I believe it.....but damn, I hope it is true.
We also know what the GT500 is capable of. We also know the GT500 is junk on street tires. The CTS-V is nice but have yet to see one go bottom 11s with just tires. I also like to see them against each other when not in a magazine article. Stock to stock. As mention the ZL1 will be a good match and they will go back and forth with each other. Ford has already released some info on the step up for the GT500. I think its their response to the ZL1. I think it is great that GM/Ford is having these HP wars.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
The ZL1 will perform very well against the current GT500. I mean, look at what the heavier CTS-V can do...


I'll wait until I see proof of the GT500 getting stepped up before I believe it.....but damn, I hope it is true.
The kicker is that ford isn't going to be stupid about this. I'm sure they are waiting for Chevys move before they come out with the current gen gt500's successor. The gt500 is far enough along in it's lifecycle that a new overhaul in the drivetrain department is justifiable. I don't mean to be pessimistic about this, but it's the same thing that BMW does to Audi every generation.
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Originally Posted by willizm
The kicker is that ford isn't going to be stupid about this. I'm sure they are waiting for Chevys move before they come out with the current gen gt500's successor. The gt500 is far enough along in it's lifecycle that a new overhaul in the drivetrain department is justifiable. I don't mean to be pessimistic about this, but it's the same thing that BMW does to Audi every generation.
That's how it's always been. Ford seems to be reactive to what GM does, just try to get ahead for a while. 2010 SS comes out, following year, the 5.0 comes out. ZL1 comes out, possible new GT500...makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
random videos like this are why ignorant people keep arguing like a bunch of morons. The new 5.0 is faster then ANY new camaro, period. Time for GM to step it up a notch and unleash there engineering team on the problem.
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Originally Posted by willizm
The kicker is that ford isn't going to be stupid about this. I'm sure they are waiting for Chevys move before they come out with the current gen gt500's successor. The gt500 is far enough along in it's lifecycle that a new overhaul in the drivetrain department is justifiable. I don't mean to be pessimistic about this, but it's the same thing that BMW does to Audi every generation.
They may also wait till 2014. That is the when the mustang is suppose to get its overhaul. It marks its 50th year anniversary. There is all kinds of concepts out but none confirmed yet. They are also throwing around new concepts of a new GT.



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