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Old 08-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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^Hmm didn't even think of that one...
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
watch from 1:22 till 1:27~, AWESOME view of the tire wrinkling.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
Yes I am aware of what MMR's car ran, hence why in post #876 I said the quickest non-tube LSX went .03 quicker.
You talking about Ronnie Duke's old GTO?

The old W2W camaro (casper) went .13 quicker with a 352 LQ4.

I bet MMR will be quicker when they get the car sorted out though.

I think more people would swap in the 5.4l mod motor (my personal favorite) if it wasn't so big.
It's about 5 inches bigger in width and height, but roughly the same length (I think the LS is slightly longer).

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Old 08-02-2011, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
You talking about Ronnie Duke's old GTO?

The old W2W camaro (casper) went .13 quicker with a 352 LQ4.

I bet MMR will be quicker when they get the car sorted out though.

I think more people would swap in the 5.4l mod motor (my personal favorite) if it wasn't so big.
It's about 5 inches bigger in width and height, but roughly the same length (I think the LS is slightly longer).
Correct but we were talking non-tube cars. I believe Caspers old Camaro was a tube chassis, I may be wrong tho.

And I agree with everything else you said.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:21 PM
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LSX>*














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Wrong
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Heater
LSX>*














/thread
What else you got ?

(yeayyyy! , I got to use the sleepy'con twice in one day!
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What else you got ?

(yeayyyy! , I got to use the sleepy'con twice in one day!

LoL, it's a "5.0 versus 5.0" thread and really what everybody wants to see in the end is that the LS engine is superior in every way; so why not just come out and say it.
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4.6 has went faster then lsx anything / thread
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Originally Posted by automach1
4.6 has went faster then lsx anything / thread
Shut up you don't even know what your own car runs. All you can do is post fake time slips
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
Correct but we were talking non-tube cars. I believe Caspers old Camaro was a tube chassis, I may be wrong tho.

And I agree with everything else you said.
Casper is technically front and back halved if I remember correctly.
I don't recall exactly either though.


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4.6 has went faster then lsx anything / thread
Apples to oranges. Each engine has made roughly the same power (LSX vs 5.4 mod).
The 4.6 hasn't quite made the same power as the 5.4l or the LSX though.

Quickest is relative to the package, it doesn't make one powerplant better than the other.
TitanMotorsport's Celica went 6.65 @ 209. They did it in an 1800 pound pro stock car.

All these engines, setups, and weights are limited by the class they run in.
If there were pro stock cars running LS engines, I would bet they'd be close to John's times.
Hell, John would probably be DEEP into the 5's without a weight limit or turbo limits.

The big name LS cars run in the LS classes (the ones in LSX challenge and shootout), none of which are at pro stock level.
This is where the money is and this is why you don't see any pro stock cars with LS engines.

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Old 08-02-2011, 06:25 PM
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Shut up you don't even know what your own car runs. All you can do is post fake time slips
haha faster then your car
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
Casper is technically front and back halved if I remember correctly.
I don't recall exactly either though.




Apples to oranges. Each engine has made roughly the same power (LSX vs 5.4 mod).
The 4.6 hasn't quite made the same power as the 5.4l or the LSX though.

Quickest is relative to the package, it doesn't make one powerplant better than the other.
TitanMotorsport's Celica went 6.65 @ 209. They did it in an 1800 pound pro stock car.

All these engines, setups, and weights are limited by the class they run in.
If there were pro stock cars running LS engines, I would bet they'd be close to John's times.
Hell, John would probably be DEEP into the 5's without a weight limit or turbo limits.

The big name LS cars run in the LS classes (the ones in LSX challenge and shootout), none of which are at pro stock level.
This is where the money is and this is why you don't see any pro stock cars with LS engines.
JESUS H CRIST!!...finally someone speaks the truth..try telling this to that slow AUTOMACH1 guy or whatever his name is..he will just keep saying "4.6>LSX"....PFFFT
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Originally Posted by automach1
haha faster then your car
we've seen your timeslip ..like i said before...i could outrun you using only my cruise control switch to accelerate...i'm going to the track in about 3 more weeks..i will post vids of what 10 second passes look like while running a stock 10 bolt with stock 3.23 gears..i might even take my sons car seat out the back this time
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Well in automach1's defense, turn around is fair play.
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Originally Posted by automach1
haha faster then your car
Your fake time slip was only a 12.6. Im guessing math isn't a strong point for you. Your number is bigger than mine THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FASTER TOO LMAO
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
So the quickest non-tube LSX (Ronnie Duke, 6.96@200) supercharged GTO is .03 quicker than the non-tube record holder, turbo modular. Shaweeet! GM reigns again.

What's the next category you want to debate about..fastest any cube? Stock internals perhaps? Your pick.
LMFAO. You asked me what the fastest non tube chassis 281" mod motor was and I showed you. Then your...LOL sorry laughing here rebuttle, is a guy with a ******* 427 inch motor. Talk about apples to organges. Dude get a clue. Whats the fastest Three Forty Six? Can you comprehand that? Thats the numbers 3-4-6. lol.
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Who shoots for 7's in an LSX and keeps it under 400ci?
Casper had 352ci. I know, I know it's not 346ci.

This thread keeps getting more and more infantile, irrelevant, and illogical.
First it's the GM guys and then the Ford guys sling it right back.
You all know who you are, and hopefully you'll end this pointless BS.

The Mod motors and LS motors are equally good. They've each made roughly the same power and they're close in weight (aluminum v aluminum).
There's really nothing left to be said except: to each their own.
To argue that one is better than the other is foolish.

Now lock this horrible thread already.

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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
Who shoots for 7's in an LSX and keeps it under 400ci?
Casper had 352ci. I know, I know it's not 346ci.

This thread keeps getting more and more infantile, irrelevant, and illogical.
First it's the GM guys and then the Ford guys sling it right back.
You all know who you are, and hopefully you'll end this pointless BS.

The Mod motors and LS motors are equally good. They've each made roughly the same power and they're close in weight (aluminum v aluminum).
There's really nothing left to be said except: to each their own.
To argue that one is better than the other is foolish.


Now lock this horrible thread already.
The truth comes out.
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