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Old 08-11-2011, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I watched a member here run a 12.99 @ 110mph in his '02 WS6 6spd, with just a lid and SFCs. DA was about -700ft, and his 60' was 2.15. This was a little over 8 years ago, actually at TAD... it's not THAT bad Ohioborn
Go there now. You know it switched owners 3 times in last 6 yrs. Just got a new one. No track prep before and is even worse now. Also they have some pot wholes in the middle of one lane and the other lane has a dip in it.

I cut 1.5 60ft at SAR then cut 1.9-2.2 at TAD.

Even though I cut 1.9 60ft there i still ran 11.9@119 with a DA of +3200 last time. That is good enough for low 11's with some good air like we will see in Jan/Feb.
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LT/LS Guy
You sound real mad lately. I wonder why?


Just face it. The 5.0 had a short while of being on top of the pony car game but now, the big boy 392 is here to rain on your parade. Better start saving for that supercharger.
Hmm Funny I have talked to a few people that own them and have went 12.3 with -1500 DA. So compared to the 5.0 who went 12.2 with -500 DA. Yep we still faster. Hmm The fastest 5.0 so far is 8 sec 1/4. The fast 392 so far is high 11's with a 75 shot. Still in -DA.
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No one is ever correct on here. No matter how many videos, slips, first hand experiences, there is always someone to say "but.....".
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Originally Posted by Paywithdeath
No one is ever correct on here. No matter how many videos, slips, first hand experiences, there is always someone to say "but.....".
LOL...True...BUT what if, I mean it could have if, It should have, it might .....Well if it was a LS1 it would do it with no issue.
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Originally Posted by Paywithdeath
I think the blown gto would beat a stock 392 100%. no doubt about that at all. Im just saying, the op said he pulled from ny to georgia on the 392 in 4 seconds. I dont think with only 60 whp diff it would be that big of a margine, but anything possible on the street. Sounded more like a 6.1 srt to me. Either way, good kill.
60 rwhp, if it was indeed only that much, is quite a bit actually and GTOs weigh quite a bit less. A blown GTO would indeed be in another zip code after a few gears.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
Do you ever research anything you talk about? Your information is incorrect about 99.999% of the time.

The quickest stock 392 run (12.3) was in +2xx DA FYI. And I don't why you would need a 75-shot for high 11's??? They run mid-low 12s off the lot. A good converter and sticky tires is all it will take.
Well without a tune they are not putting a stall in it. And since a tune isn't available looks like they are not getting a stall. SO that is why a 75 shot. Cause they can run it with no tune.

Also I said one few people I talked to ran those times with -1500 DA. And still not faster then a 5.0 best time. And you can say they run those times. I have seen them run 13's also. They all are not running low-mid 12's from dealers. Same as the 5.0/SS running there best times.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
You said the 5.0 did it in neg. DA, and I am telling you the Chally 392 ran the 12.30 in positive DA of 200 or so feet. And that was with an auto. It's just as fast and probably faster than the new 5-0 5/Manual. Just stating facts.
I know one auto ran a 12.37@114 also. In 150+ DA. So it looks like it is going to be a drivers race with everything equal.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
No it wont. 5.0 A6's don't run 12.30's, they are high 12/low 13-second cars. Several stock A5 392's have already been mid-low 12's, not just one. The 392 is the faster car. /discussion.
HAHA n it hasn't. Cause funny many have went high 12's and low 13's. Also many auto's have went mid 12's and way you GM guys all it takes is one car to go a certain number. I mean you guys say all time how a Z06 is a high 10 sec car cause a couple have done it.


Sorry stock 5.0's are faster then your vette stock so you had to get that spray.
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Originally Posted by Amazin1
but the original post was a supercharged GTO vs a 392 hemi and you still have less money in the GTO than the 392. i'm not denying that the hemi is a nice car but dollar for dollar i was amazed at how easily the GTO walked the 392.
You can't use the "dollar for dollar" comparison when talking about a brand new car vs. one that is minimum 5 years old.
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Go there now. You know it switched owners 3 times in last 6 yrs. Just got a new one. No track prep before and is even worse now. Also they have some pot wholes in the middle of one lane and the other lane has a dip in it.
Didn't know that... I haven't been to TAD in several years.
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No it wont. 5.0 A6's don't run 12.30's, they are high 12/low 13-second cars. Several stock A5 392's have already been mid-low 12's, not just one. The 392 is the faster car. /discussion.
So... an automatic SRT-8 ran 12.30 in +200 DA, and an automatic 5.0 ran a 12.37 in +150DA with a higher trap speed... but they aren't a driver's race?
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Drive a 392 Challenger and then a 5.0 back to back. Ohio I have driven both and the Challenger is faster.
Once ecu is cracked 5.0 with same mods will be in big trouble
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Drive a 392 Challenger and then a 5.0 back to back. Ohio I have driven both and the Challenger is faster.
Once ecu is cracked 5.0 with same mods will be in big trouble
I have not driven the 392 yet. I have a friend who did. He told him his opinion. He felt the 392 was more TQ, but the 5.0 felt quicker. He said if the 392 was to drop about 300-500lbs he could see it smoking the 5.0/ss and even a regular vette.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I have not driven the 392 yet. I have a friend who did. He told him his opinion. He felt the 392 was more TQ, but the 5.0 felt quicker. He said if the 392 was to drop about 300-500lbs he could see it smoking the 5.0/ss and even a regular vette.
Butt dynos are horribly inaccurate. Case in point I dropped off my 02 SS to have some work done to it just after it had gone 12.90 @ 110 mph. I get the car back and it feels like it has more torque and might be just a tad faster but not much so I was really disappointed I just spent this money for it to only be a tad faster until I went to the track and ran a 11.8 @ 121 mph n/a my first time out in it.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I have not driven the 392 yet. I have a friend who did. He told him his opinion. He felt the 392 was more TQ, but the 5.0 felt quicker. He said if the 392 was to drop about 300-500lbs he could see it smoking the 5.0/ss and even a regular vette.
How heavy is the 392?
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
How heavy is the 392?
motortrend has it at a curb weight of 4160lb. insideline has it at 4230lbs


Supercars has the automatic faster then the manual. Saying auto is mid 12's and manual is high 12's in 1/4.

insidline has it at 12.6.

motortrend had it 13.0.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Drive a 392 Challenger and then a 5.0 back to back. Ohio I have driven both and the Challenger is faster.
Once ecu is cracked 5.0 with same mods will be in big trouble
Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Butt dynos are horribly inaccurate.
QFT.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Drive a 392 Challenger and then a 5.0 back to back. Ohio I have driven both and the Challenger is faster.
Once ecu is cracked 5.0 with same mods will be in big trouble
Agreed. I've seen plenty 2011/12 GT's and 392's run at MIR and the Chally's, as heavy as they are, are running quicker times on average. Average times for 392 being in the mid 12's with the 5.0/6M's in the high 12's, both trapping 110-114. What's impressive is the 392's were auto's and trapping just as high as the Manual GT's with good driver. Shows their making big power stock. Can't wait to see what a full bolt-on, stalled, tuned, sticky tire car can do...
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Even the mags with their crappy launches are getting mid 12's left & right in these things.

Inside Line - 12.6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W0pM...e_gdata_player

So whomever is claiming these things to be high 12/low 13 sec cars if FOS!!
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Originally Posted by m_liel
Even the mags with their crappy launches are getting mid 12's left & right in these things.
So whomever is claiming these things to be high 12/low 13 sec cars if FOS!!
They are doing EXACTLY what you are doing. Going off what they personally see at the drag strip. If you go by the numbers from people all over the country, it is quite easy to see how close the '11 GT and 392 SRT-8 really are. Like the 12.37 and 12.30 from the automatics, in +200' and +150' DA. That seems like a pretty damn good comparison to me.
Originally Posted by m_liel
Agreed. I've seen plenty 2011/12 GT's and 392's run at MIR and the Chally's, as heavy as they are, are running quicker times on average. Average times for 392 being in the mid 12's with the 5.0/6M's in the high 12's, both trapping 110-114. What's impressive is the 392's were auto's and trapping just as high as the Manual GT's with good driver. Shows their making big power stock. Can't wait to see what a full bolt-on, stalled, tuned, sticky tire car can do...
See? You are doing the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
They are doing EXACTLY what you are doing. Going off what they personally see at the drag strip. If you go by the numbers from people all over the country, it is quite easy to see how close the '11 GT and 392 SRT-8 really are. Like the 12.37 and 12.30 from the automatics, in +200' and +150' DA. That seems like a pretty damn good comparison to me.


See? You are doing the same thing.
true fanboy fashion. I like that.

These are MAGAZINE times for gosh sakes, the same mags that ran the 2011 GT's and got slower times, along w/ several VIDEOS of private owners w/ 392's fresh off the showroom with DEALER PLATES running these times.

On top of the that, the runs I speak of are ones I saw in PERSON. Now with that said, did you witness the 12.30 run in the A6 Mustang yourself, or are you just going off word of mouth? Since by your logic, im sure you give 'word of mouth' more credibility than what one sees with his own 2 eyes.

Try again.
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Seems some Mustang enthusiast can't stomach the fact that a 4300lb MOPAR can show them tailights.


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