06 GTO vs 392 hemi challenger
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Dude... this IS the internet. Everything that you, me, or anybody else says on here is "the internet." It still does not change the fact that the 5.0 in your first video was putting down right around the same amount of power as that Challenger, and weighs 500-600lbs less. And it also does not change the fact that MANY people around the country are running 11s with those mods and trapping 115mph+. Anything can happen on the street of course, but some things are beyond questionable.
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Well, smarty, i watched a ms3 bolt on 2002 camaro run 12.0's at 116 a couple weeks ago, the same 392 in the video went 12.2's at 114 also the same night. Its not a far off thing to happen here. Put 2+2 togetger and get a good, drivers race.
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Idc how heavy or expensive the challenger is, its still kool, and the engine is big enough so it is not that easy to kill. I suspect with a tire and gears it can kill the new camaro and mustang no problem.
So the new 5.0s have broken into 10s with boltons now? impressive but I assume crazy 60ft, non pump, and a lot of weight reduction.
All these vids of bolton 5.0s, u sir are asking for a post of the texas speed camaro, dont make me post it.
So the new 5.0s have broken into 10s with boltons now? impressive but I assume crazy 60ft, non pump, and a lot of weight reduction.
All these vids of bolton 5.0s, u sir are asking for a post of the texas speed camaro, dont make me post it.
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I understand people have their brands and makes they are partial to but, its just so annoying to see " ME HAVE 5.0,NO ONE BEAT ME EVER". same with all diff brands, not singling out mustangs just using as an example with things like people here saying the cammed ls1 making 359whp would destroy a 392, i just dont see it. i see a drivers race. Like people laughing at my 5.7 when they think their all bad and find out what it did and then shut up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyQDMpUmUV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrUJ5NJzO_4
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ORfaKZ5Yg
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEu3aCDEC4Q
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The 392 Challenger has 475HP and runs the 1/4 mile in 13.0 flat (on average). The 5.0 Mustang has 412HP and runs the 1/4 mile in 12.7 flat (on average). That's the difference in weight and HP.
Now something to really spank the Challenger, the 302 Boss Mustang 5.0. 444HP, runs the 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds.
There is only one advantage to weight, you get better traction.
Now something to really spank the Challenger, the 302 Boss Mustang 5.0. 444HP, runs the 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds.
There is only one advantage to weight, you get better traction.
To give you an Idea how much faster the 392 is then the 6.1 SRT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3HddgFJsxg
Now this is the 6.1 vs a 5.0 look how close it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6bf6cdh74U
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His H/C 5.7 Charger vs Cammed 01 SS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyQDMpUmUV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrUJ5NJzO_4
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ORfaKZ5Yg
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEu3aCDEC4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyQDMpUmUV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrUJ5NJzO_4
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ORfaKZ5Yg
Cammed SS on a 100 Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEu3aCDEC4Q
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per the internet and 'Ohioborn' yes you are correct. Unfortunately, in the real world it doesnt always work out that way.
What's the deal with all the "shop" cars? Did I hit a soft spot?
11.30s in a stalled/bolt-on/weight reduction car is impressive, but im not going to hit back flips over it. I remember the LS's doing that back in my Mustang drag racing days. Besides, the 392 Mopars are going to do it with less mods. Just watch.
What's the deal with all the "shop" cars? Did I hit a soft spot?
11.30s in a stalled/bolt-on/weight reduction car is impressive, but im not going to hit back flips over it. I remember the LS's doing that back in my Mustang drag racing days. Besides, the 392 Mopars are going to do it with less mods. Just watch.
The other car is the "shops car but the guy drives it on the street as well. Its his car but he happens to own the shop.
The 2011 5.0 is light years above a Fbody and looking to be light years above the new SS. I mean **** SC and they still can hardly run 11s in some cases. Look at your guys own section for them here. They have ones making 600whp and cant run as fast as some bolt on 5.0's. LS3 failed in the SS.
Now GM wants to sc it to 550hp. WOW! Fords little 5.4L with a blower that we will release next year that will make over 600hp in the GT500. Oh and it will be lighter the the 2012 that weighs 3700-3800 Fully loaded. We all know the camaro will weigh least what it already does now.
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Idc how heavy or expensive the challenger is, its still kool, and the engine is big enough so it is not that easy to kill. I suspect with a tire and gears it can kill the new camaro and mustang no problem.
So the new 5.0s have broken into 10s with boltons now? impressive but I assume crazy 60ft, non pump, and a lot of weight reduction.
All these vids of bolton 5.0s, u sir are asking for a post of the texas speed camaro, dont make me post it.
So the new 5.0s have broken into 10s with boltons now? impressive but I assume crazy 60ft, non pump, and a lot of weight reduction.
All these vids of bolton 5.0s, u sir are asking for a post of the texas speed camaro, dont make me post it.
* 2010 Camaro SS L99 A6 (raceweight prob about 3850 to 3900+)
* 6.2L 100% stock shortblock
* TSP/PRC LS7 6-bolt small-bore heads (final prototypes for future release)
* LS7 Rocker arms (for the LS7-derived heads)
* TSP VVT Camshaft 23x/24x
* TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes / Induction
* Yank 4000 Stall Converter
* Stock A6 Transmission
* Stock Gearing
* 100% Stock Suspension, nothing at all aftermarket
* Weld 17" Drag Wheels
* Hoosier Slicks
11.17@121...HMM not bad but still not impressed with cams and stall etc etc for low 11s.
Or you mean there fully built fbody that ran 9s? Funny the fastest DD car in texas is a Foxbody that runs 7s. Look it up.
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The first car isn't a shop car. Its his DD. It isn't a bolt on Auto also. He has no headers, no Boss intake. Oh and he even took the cold air off and has stock air box cause he said the cold air was worth nothing. Tune, tire, stall, cage, and racing seats. That all that weight saving in the car or out the car.
The other car is the "shops car but the guy drives it on the street as well. Its his car but he happens to own the shop.
The 2011 5.0 is light years above a Fbody and looking to be light years above the new SS. I mean **** SC and they still can hardly run 11s in some cases. Look at your guys own section for them here. They have ones making 600whp and cant run as fast as some bolt on 5.0's. LS3 failed in the SS.
Now GM wants to sc it to 550hp. WOW! Fords little 5.4L with a blower that we will release next year that will make over 600hp in the GT500. Oh and it will be lighter the the 2012 that weighs 3700-3800 Fully loaded. We all know the camaro will weigh least what it already does now.
The other car is the "shops car but the guy drives it on the street as well. Its his car but he happens to own the shop.
The 2011 5.0 is light years above a Fbody and looking to be light years above the new SS. I mean **** SC and they still can hardly run 11s in some cases. Look at your guys own section for them here. They have ones making 600whp and cant run as fast as some bolt on 5.0's. LS3 failed in the SS.
Now GM wants to sc it to 550hp. WOW! Fords little 5.4L with a blower that we will release next year that will make over 600hp in the GT500. Oh and it will be lighter the the 2012 that weighs 3700-3800 Fully loaded. We all know the camaro will weigh least what it already does now.
Please let us know when your car runs these imaginary times.
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YOu mean the C.H/I one that ran low 11? You mean this one?
* 2010 Camaro SS L99 A6 (raceweight prob about 3850 to 3900+)
* 6.2L 100% stock shortblock
* TSP/PRC LS7 6-bolt small-bore heads (final prototypes for future release)
* LS7 Rocker arms (for the LS7-derived heads)
* TSP VVT Camshaft 23x/24x
* TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes / Induction
* Yank 4000 Stall Converter
* Stock A6 Transmission
* Stock Gearing
* 100% Stock Suspension, nothing at all aftermarket
* Weld 17" Drag Wheels
* Hoosier Slicks
11.17@121...HMM not bad but still not impressed with cams and stall etc etc for low 11s.
Or you mean there fully built fbody that ran 9s? Funny the fastest DD car in texas is a Foxbody that runs 7s. Look it up.
* 2010 Camaro SS L99 A6 (raceweight prob about 3850 to 3900+)
* 6.2L 100% stock shortblock
* TSP/PRC LS7 6-bolt small-bore heads (final prototypes for future release)
* LS7 Rocker arms (for the LS7-derived heads)
* TSP VVT Camshaft 23x/24x
* TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes / Induction
* Yank 4000 Stall Converter
* Stock A6 Transmission
* Stock Gearing
* 100% Stock Suspension, nothing at all aftermarket
* Weld 17" Drag Wheels
* Hoosier Slicks
11.17@121...HMM not bad but still not impressed with cams and stall etc etc for low 11s.
Or you mean there fully built fbody that ran 9s? Funny the fastest DD car in texas is a Foxbody that runs 7s. Look it up.
Don't get me wrong the 5.0 is a quick car, and the ford guys are very excited I understand, but matter of fact is they are still behind 12 year old ls1s. They also run comparable numbers to the new challenger and new camaros, don't get too excited about ur 5.0, its quick but its not the greatest thing out there.
I'm with LT/LS guy post up time slips and videos sir, you have all the boltons neccesary to be running same times as the guys you posted.
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No i'm talking about the 12 year old f-body, please n/a 5.0 in the low 9s, post a link I want to be proven wrong, doesnt take much to build a Texas speed f-body either, weight reduction, th400 tranny, rear end, fly cut pistons, heads cam, thats it, what would it take for your 5.0 to be running low 9s?
Don't get me wrong the 5.0 is a quick car, and the ford guys are very excited I understand, but matter of fact is they are still behind 12 year old ls1s. They also run comparable numbers to the new challenger and new camaros, don't get too excited about ur 5.0, its quick but its not the greatest thing out there.
I'm with LT/LS guy post up time slips and videos sir, you have all the boltons neccesary to be running same times as the guys you posted.
Don't get me wrong the 5.0 is a quick car, and the ford guys are very excited I understand, but matter of fact is they are still behind 12 year old ls1s. They also run comparable numbers to the new challenger and new camaros, don't get too excited about ur 5.0, its quick but its not the greatest thing out there.
I'm with LT/LS guy post up time slips and videos sir, you have all the boltons neccesary to be running same times as the guys you posted.
I sure do have all the bolt ons. BUt it was 115* when I was home. I promise your car will run liek **** in t hat weather. at midnight it was still 91* when I was running at the track. A cammed Fbody was running slower t hen me. He is on here as well. He had full bolt ons with a nice stall even. Where did I say a new n/a 5.0 went 9's?
How the hell is the Chally even close to what teh SS or 5.0 has ran? They both have cars in the 8s. No new challenger has went faster then low 12s yet. And the new SS haha. Cammed and evreything most them still can't get out there own way. Look at ya'll own section for them here. They are slow as **** compared to what the 5.0 is doing.
THe 5th gen bolt on list..
1. Walkermuffler - 11.71 @ 114.07 mph, (LT, CAI, Tune, 17'' wheels, Skinnies, Drag Radials), (LS3, M6)
2. OrangeChevy - 11.83 @ 116 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, 18'' wheels, Skinnies, Drag Radials), (LS3, M6)
3. GMRULZ - 12.22 @ 113.29 mph, (LT, CAI, Tune), (L99, A6), (DA -648 ft.)
4. RedJewel2SS - 12.23 @ 113.18 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, 104 octane, Tune), (L99, A6)
5. Number_9 - 12.24 @ 112.99 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, Ported TB & Intake, Line Lock, DR's Tune), (L99, A6)
6. Scottywheels 12.35 @ 110.71 1.65 60ft (A6,3600 Stall,LG Headers/Exhaust,DR, Mongillo CAI, Mongillo TUne)
7. Mercuryman96 - 12.35 @ 113.12 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, DR's), (LS3, M6)
8. Wacker - 12.49 @ 111.57 mph, (LT, Exhaust, Tune), (L99, A6)
9. CFPC 2010-12.49 @ 111.09, (LT,Tune,DR,Trailing Arms, 2800 Stall)
10. NHSS - 12.53 @ 111.73 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune), (L99, A6)
11. SGOS252382 - 12.55 @ 111.62 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune), (L99 A6)
12. RamAir2 - 12.58 @ 111.32 mph, (LT, CAI, 18'' wheels, DRs, coil overs), (LS3, M6)
13. Grand Pa - 12.58 @ 111.28 mph (LT, CAI, Tune), (L99, A6)
14. SRT10KLR - 12.59 kph @ ?, (Mid Length Headers, Exhaust, CAI, DR's Tune), (L99, A6)
15. JS- 12.59 @ 111.31 ,(Exhaust, CAI, Tune, LT), (L99, A6)
5.0 bolt on list Also these are not even teh shop cars. Liek Woodobine and Revolution that went 10.99 and 11.1.
1.Kdaner-------------11.37@119.21 1.58 60' A6,4.30,circle d converter
2.Bad intention-------11.57@118.51 1.67',a6,3.73,3800stall
3.gdyup-------------11.60@117.22 1.664' a6,4.10,circle d 4000
4.wbt----------------11.63@118 M6, bolt ons, clutch, drive shaft
5.JJ@wms------------11.64@118 4.30 gears, headers, cold air, tune,
5.2FST-4U-----------11.64@118.93 1.764' a6,3.73,reworked stock converter, tune, cold air, Full exhaust
5.AMChrisRose--------11.64@117.75 1.80',a6,4.10, Stall, headers, cold air, tune
8.Jeremiahhussey-----11.65@116 1.56', LT's, O/R x pipe, tune, cold air,
9.bmr tech-------------11.69@117 1.68',a6,3.73,3200stall
9.johhnyz--------------11.69@110 1.57',unkown gears,unkown converter
11.Turboba6-----------11.71@116.70 1.671',a6,3.15,3600stall
12.stang910-----------11.72@114 M6,
13.stage It------------11.76@117.48 1.68',m6,4.30s
14.wnt2gofst----------11.80@117 1.58 60',m6, Bolt ons
15.d98gt--------------11.88@116 1.69',m6, tune only
Hell the bolt on 5.0's can compete with the cammed SS
1. Texas speed- 11.17 @ 121.9 (L99, Heads, CAm, LT, 4000 stall, CAI,)
2. Gib - 11.22 @ 125.31 mph, (427 ci, Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Converter, Tune, (L99, A6)
3. OrangeChevy - 11.37 @ 121.55 mph (Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's), (LS3, M6)
4. MattTuneTime - 11.62 @ 121.62 mph, (Heads/Cam, LT, CAI, Tune, 17'' DR's), (L99, A6)
5.Slowhawk- 11.64 @ 116mph, (cam,lt, 3600 stall, cai,L99)
5. Mike@newera - 11.64 @ 118.03 mph, (Heads/Cam, LT, Ported TB & Intake, Converter, Tune, DR's), (L99, A6)
6. Nuptualnemesis - 11.73 @ 118.63 mph, (Cam, LT, CAI, T Arm, Ported TB & Intake, Tune, 17'' MT ET's), (LS3, M6)
7. FreemaSSon - 11.92 @ 116.18 mph, (Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, 18'' ET Streets)
8. Camaro1 - 11.96 @ 115.62 mph, (415 ci, Heads/Cam, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Converter, Tune), (L99, A6)
9. Rickythestorm - 11.98 @ 116.27 mph, (Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Stall, Tune), (L99, A6)
10. SRT10KLLR - 12.09 @ 119.53 mph,(Heads/Cam, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Stall, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
11. 1BADRS2SS - 12.27 @ 111.19 mph, (Cam, LT, Converter, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
12. SSyanide - 12.33 @ 114.40 mph, (Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
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Top 5 5Th gen over all.
1. Lingenfelter racing- 8.997 @ 158.80 (377 LS9, TVS 2300, 2 stage Nitrous,M6)
2. Brooksracing/LMR - 9.91 @ 124 mph, (427 ci, Supercharger F-1R, LS7 Heads, Built 6L80 E, Stall, Skinnies, 18'' Hoosiers, (A6)
3. OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
4. Midgard/Livernois - 10.44 @ 134.29 mph, (419 cid, Supercharger, Cam, LT, Exhaust, 3.45 gears, DR, Tune, (L99, A6)
5. Adam@ST - 10.55 @ 133.99 mph, (Supercharger/Kenne Bell, Converter, 17'' slicks), (L99 A6)
Top 5 5.0's over all.
1.Evolution Performance-8.89@148mph F1 blower, Built engine
2.MAStang-9.66@135.86mph
3.Justin@VMP-9.79@140mph Exhaust, Roush blower
4.wicked 4.6-9.86@142.76mph Blower, exhaust,
5.Beefcake-10.14@139.80mph Built engine, Vortech blower
Hmmm looks like the LS3 which is "better" then the LS1 needed more cubes added with its blower to stay up with the 5.0. Hell Lingenfelter don't even have a ls3 anymore like a few others.
So how does the SS run with the 5.0????? And the Chally isn't close to neither right now. Stock for stock teh 5.0 is still faster. Best times for each are 12.22 for 5.0, 12.37 for 392, and 12.5 for SS.
1. Lingenfelter racing- 8.997 @ 158.80 (377 LS9, TVS 2300, 2 stage Nitrous,M6)
2. Brooksracing/LMR - 9.91 @ 124 mph, (427 ci, Supercharger F-1R, LS7 Heads, Built 6L80 E, Stall, Skinnies, 18'' Hoosiers, (A6)
3. OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
4. Midgard/Livernois - 10.44 @ 134.29 mph, (419 cid, Supercharger, Cam, LT, Exhaust, 3.45 gears, DR, Tune, (L99, A6)
5. Adam@ST - 10.55 @ 133.99 mph, (Supercharger/Kenne Bell, Converter, 17'' slicks), (L99 A6)
Top 5 5.0's over all.
1.Evolution Performance-8.89@148mph F1 blower, Built engine
2.MAStang-9.66@135.86mph
3.Justin@VMP-9.79@140mph Exhaust, Roush blower
4.wicked 4.6-9.86@142.76mph Blower, exhaust,
5.Beefcake-10.14@139.80mph Built engine, Vortech blower
Hmmm looks like the LS3 which is "better" then the LS1 needed more cubes added with its blower to stay up with the 5.0. Hell Lingenfelter don't even have a ls3 anymore like a few others.
So how does the SS run with the 5.0????? And the Chally isn't close to neither right now. Stock for stock teh 5.0 is still faster. Best times for each are 12.22 for 5.0, 12.37 for 392, and 12.5 for SS.
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In no means did I say that the new 5.0 was slower than the challenger or the camaro. I'm not defending either one, but all 3 cars are still very much within the same power/weight ratio level. For you to suggest that the 5.0 is superior by the margin that you are suggesting is simply illogical, hell most your sentences don't even make any sense.
Now you see here is the problem with your numbers, you are comparing IRS cars like the challenger and camaro to a solid axel mustang which is also very aggressively geared out compared to the other 2 cars. Don't go thinking that your new 5.0 is better than the competitors because that's simply not the case even if your ford fan boys have told you otherwise.
So do you have any personal timeslips to post or no?
As I said before the 5.0 still hasn't caught up to 12 year old ls1s, the texas speed camaro ran a low 9 second pass on a stock bottom end, stock cubic inches, for a 5.0 to do that it needs a built motor and FI. Face the facts, old f-boy = faster than brand new 5.0 mustang.
Now you see here is the problem with your numbers, you are comparing IRS cars like the challenger and camaro to a solid axel mustang which is also very aggressively geared out compared to the other 2 cars. Don't go thinking that your new 5.0 is better than the competitors because that's simply not the case even if your ford fan boys have told you otherwise.
So do you have any personal timeslips to post or no?
As I said before the 5.0 still hasn't caught up to 12 year old ls1s, the texas speed camaro ran a low 9 second pass on a stock bottom end, stock cubic inches, for a 5.0 to do that it needs a built motor and FI. Face the facts, old f-boy = faster than brand new 5.0 mustang.
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In no means did I say that the new 5.0 was slower than the challenger or the camaro. I'm not defending either one, but all 3 cars are still very much within the same power/weight ratio level. For you to suggest that the 5.0 is superior by the margin that you are suggesting is simply illogical, hell most your sentences don't even make any sense.
Now you see here is the problem with your numbers, you are comparing IRS cars like the challenger and camaro to a solid axel mustang which is also very aggressively geared out compared to the other 2 cars. Don't go thinking that your new 5.0 is better than the competitors because that's simply not the case even if your ford fan boys have told you otherwise.
So do you have any personal timeslips to post or no?
As I said before the 5.0 still hasn't caught up to 12 year old ls1s, the texas speed camaro ran a low 9 second pass on a stock bottom end, stock cubic inches, for a 5.0 to do that it needs a built motor and FI. Face the facts, old f-boy = faster than brand new 5.0 mustang.
Now you see here is the problem with your numbers, you are comparing IRS cars like the challenger and camaro to a solid axel mustang which is also very aggressively geared out compared to the other 2 cars. Don't go thinking that your new 5.0 is better than the competitors because that's simply not the case even if your ford fan boys have told you otherwise.
So do you have any personal timeslips to post or no?
As I said before the 5.0 still hasn't caught up to 12 year old ls1s, the texas speed camaro ran a low 9 second pass on a stock bottom end, stock cubic inches, for a 5.0 to do that it needs a built motor and FI. Face the facts, old f-boy = faster than brand new 5.0 mustang.
Here are my video's. Where your car at????Thsi was at SAR and the Fbody next to me is on here as well. He is Cammed and fullt bolt ons with stall. His best of night was low 11.9@114 to my 11.80@117. As said DA was 2500 in one run and high of the night was 3700. My car even lifted the tires on the most passes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7-llAcjSNs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoQWFshMSlM
Here my car again in great air DA of 250 with nothing but tires done at time with only 300 miles on it. We talked loud and a lot **** to the full bolt on 2010 Camaro SS that ran 12.8-13.2 all night. My buddy drove to the 12.1 as he had more experience driving a manual. I actually ran after him and ran teh 12.4 then back it by a 12.2/12.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVexXKJvQ_E