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Old 08-14-2011, 09:38 AM
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this race sounds about right on. i have a 95 LT1 Trans Am and when it had minimal mods and no stall i ran a 370z on the highway 70-120 and he slightly pulled me ..maybe a half car before i let out (wife in the car at 120mph wasn't very happy...lol)
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Originally Posted by ZShot
Surely you can think up better excuses...
R&T had the RX8 running 13.8@103. In reality, wasen't even close. They also said it made 245hp. The RX8 made a whopping 232. Because of this, there was a buy back program that Mazda had to follow through with.

Same mag had the Mazda speed 6 running 13.7@102 . That was inflated as well.

C&D had a S2000 run 13.6@104. Been to the track lately? 104? Sure.

I haven't picked up any magazines in a while. I got tired of looking at Jap cars run pristine times and domestics, with much more power, running times as if the track were wet.
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Originally Posted by ZShot
Have you even been to the drag racing section of this forum?
My friends ls1 just has a lid is running 13.3's and i walk him on the highway.. Stop going by what the others say they run go by what you seen and what you run .
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
And the average time of a 370z is mid 13's with a slower trap speed then an LS1.
lol so maybe thats why I walked him on the highway lol
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
yes.
from a dig or a low roll, a stall on an otherwise stock a4 fbody owns m6 guys even with full boltons.

i am not entirely sure i would expect to destroy a 370z from a highway roll in a stock ls1 a4 though. maybe gain ground back and pull a little, but no crazy bus lengths. i ran a newer bolt on 350z from a highway roll (dead spot at about 75mph I think) when I just had a catback and lid and it took longer than I thought it should. as I was killing it, I had to watch him make sour faces and even pound the steering wheel. Took a while, but eventually put 2-3 cars on by 110-115.
I dont think so.. Maybe its the driver of the m6.. I had a t/a with the same heads and cam you have except cam was on a 112 lsa with a ported fast intake and i ran other ls1s even a friend that runs 11.4 with 150 shot at the track when we would roll race i would own him.
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Originally Posted by Fly on the wall
R&T had the RX8 running 13.8@103. In reality, wasen't even close. They also said it made 245hp. The RX8 made a whopping 232. Because of this, there was a buy back program that Mazda had to follow through with.

Same mag had the Mazda speed 6 running 13.7@102 . That was inflated as well.

C&D had a S2000 run 13.6@104. Been to the track lately? 104? Sure.

I haven't picked up any magazines in a while. I got tired of looking at Jap cars run pristine times and domestics, with much more power, running times as if the track were wet.
YES.. the magazines are BS, although some guys on here swear by them.

example.. according to motor trend, the LS1 fbody is a 13.8 second car that traps 102mph (skip to 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuFETzsjPo
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
YES.. the magazines are BS, although some guys on here swear by them.

example.. according to motor trend, the LS1 fbody is a 13.8 second car that traps 102mph (skip to 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuFETzsjPo
Yeah, when you watch him launch the car it just spins all over the place, he has to counter steer back and forth several times. Clearly no knowledge on launching these cars.
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Of course this is the fastest Camaro I have ever seen tested by Motor Week.

The 1997 Camaro SS with the LT4 engine. 330HP and 340 lb/ft of torque.

0-60 in 4.9 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.2 seconds

Imagine what an experienced driver could do with this car. I doubt there is much of an aftermarket for these engines, but from what I understand it's just a modified LT1 engine, and the LT1 aftermarket is pretty big.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Tfl...eature=related
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Originally Posted by BobDoLe
YES.. the magazines are BS, although some guys on here swear by them.

example.. according to motor trend, the LS1 fbody is a 13.8 second car that traps 102mph (skip to 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuFETzsjPo
This is why you dont go by magazine times.

1. It was a convertible model (heavier) with the top down
2. The driver has down syndrome and looked like he never has driven a car before.
3. Its not even a real track.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Of course this is the fastest Camaro I have ever seen tested by Motor Week.

The 1997 Camaro SS with the LT4 engine. 330HP and 340 lb/ft of torque.

0-60 in 4.9 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.2 seconds

Imagine what an experienced driver could do with this car. I doubt there is much of an aftermarket for these engines, but from what I understand it's just a modified LT1 engine, and the LT1 aftermarket is pretty big.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Tfl...eature=related
Damn that's pretty good for a lt1 without no serious mods
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Damn that's pretty good for a lt1 without no serious mods
Well it's actually the LT4 engine, and as they said in the video only 100 of those exist, so it's very rare. But they also said that an LT4 is based on the LT1, so I am guessing it just has better heads and cam and maybe a better exhaust. But yeah, for a slightly modified LT1 those are great times. That slightly modified LT1 runs with and should beat most stock LS1's.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
well add me to that list seen more then 5
When you say "stock," do you truly mean bone stock? Or "free mods?"
Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Lol, that's just dumb. We all know the C5 Vette has the same engine as the F-body Camaro, but the weight difference makes it so the C5 Vette will always be quicker.
Actually, because of the C5's IRS the times are almost exactly the same.
Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Well it's actually the LT4 engine, and as they said in the video only 100 of those exist, so it's very rare. But they also said that an LT4 is based on the LT1, so I am guessing it just has better heads and cam and maybe a better exhaust. But yeah, for a slightly modified LT1 those are great times. That slightly modified LT1 runs with and should beat most stock LS1's.
LT4:LT1::LS6:LS1
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LT4s rock! I remember back in the early days of this forum LS1 guys didn't like hearing about LT4s running the same times as them.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfmkwY-Q_oM

Maybe your better off zshot comparing it to a 4.6 gt .. just sayin
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Well it's actually the LT4 engine, and as they said in the video only 100 of those exist, so it's very rare. But they also said that an LT4 is based on the LT1, so I am guessing it just has better heads and cam and maybe a better exhaust. But yeah, for a slightly modified LT1 those are great times. That slightly modified LT1 runs with and should beat most stock LS1's.
Actually 108 were made if memory serves correct: 100 U.S. cars, 6 Canadian, and 2 prototype vehicles. There were also 29 Firebird Formula SLP Firehawks which received the LT4 in '97.

Main improvements were the LT4 heads, cam, and intake, along with a compression bump to 10.8:1 (from 10.45:1). They would typically dyno around 300rwhp give or take, and had more grunt in the low end and midrange compared to a stock LS1.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
LT4s rock! I remember back in the early days of this forum LS1 guys didn't like hearing about LT4s running the same times as them.
Is the C4 ZR1 an LT4 or LT5? I ran one at the 1/4 back when I had my WS6 and he went 12.5 to my 13.1. Sounded and looked stock
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lt5, its a bad ****!
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Is the C4 ZR1 an LT4 or LT5? I ran one at the 1/4 back when I had my WS6 and he went 12.5 to my 13.1. Sounded and looked stock
LT5.

He most likely had a couple bolt-ons, although a few have gone mid 12s bone-stock. They're a bitch to launch.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Maybe your better off zshot comparing it to a 4.6 gt .. just sayin
When the fastest, stock 4.6 does a low 13/high 12 second pass, I will... When the average 4.6 does a mid 13 second pass, I will...

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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
LT4s rock! I remember back in the early days of this forum LS1 guys didn't like hearing about LT4s running the same times as them.
My father had a C4 LT4(which he traded in for a Caddy). With sticky tires and a drop in K&N, I would touch 12.9s on some nights.

The LT4 heads were 195cc that flowed in the vacinity of 240cfm. They had a similar cam as the LT1 but the LT4s came with 1.6rrs compared to the 1.5s of the LT1. The LT4 intake was also different. It had raised runners to accomidate the ports of the LT4 heads. That intake manifold flowed slightly better than an LT1. The LT4 also got larger injectors.

I think the bump in compression came from the valve relief in the pistons being more shallow than what it was on the LT1.



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