'11 GT500 vs C6 Z06
#141
YA we covered this already. Just like every z06 does run 10's or 11's. Or every C/H/I LS1 dont run 11s or 10's as well.
Last edited by ohioborn80; 08-29-2011 at 01:37 AM.
#142
#143
They are with some great air a a great prepped track as well.
This car has now went 10.7's with ported heads/Boss intake and reground factory cams. They have mentioned they lost some more weight and aftermarket cams and will shoot for lower 10's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADx2kpL9dDA
another view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsZBgd3bC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62zJ...eature=related
a CJ with a 5.0 N/A just went 10.5 at a CJ shoot outThey took it right from the dealer on a trailer straight to a track. Granted its lighter then a street driven 5.0. Also the stock cams in it has more lift.
This car has now went 10.7's with ported heads/Boss intake and reground factory cams. They have mentioned they lost some more weight and aftermarket cams and will shoot for lower 10's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADx2kpL9dDA
another view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsZBgd3bC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62zJ...eature=related
a CJ with a 5.0 N/A just went 10.5 at a CJ shoot outThey took it right from the dealer on a trailer straight to a track. Granted its lighter then a street driven 5.0. Also the stock cams in it has more lift.
#145
This is a shake down pass since Randall has added bolt on's (track was slick)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJb0zEPN10&hd=1
Later in the day, he swapped lanes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cWs-6_wg4&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJb0zEPN10&hd=1
Later in the day, he swapped lanes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cWs-6_wg4&hd=1
#146
This is a shake down pass since Randall has added bolt on's (track was slick)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJb0zEPN10&hd=1
Later in the day, he swapped lanes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cWs-6_wg4&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJb0zEPN10&hd=1
Later in the day, he swapped lanes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cWs-6_wg4&hd=1
#147
With all those mods they still havent broke in the 10's with H/G/I. That isn't really impressive. I know the 4th gens has. I know the 5.0 has went 10's with just bolt ons.
YA we covered this already. Just like every z06 does run 10's or 11's. Or every C/H/I LS1 dont run 11s or 10's as well.
YA we covered this already. Just like every z06 does run 10's or 11's. Or every C/H/I LS1 dont run 11s or 10's as well.
Ported heads and reworked cams aren't exactly bolt-ons buddy.......
Also, I see that there is no concrete evidence/sources other than rumors fueling the 600hp+ GT500's. Third source you posted did say, however, that it will beat out the new Camaro Z28! (Lmao...I think this alone validates the credibility and accuracy of your sources).
Good lord...this thread is filled with fail.
Last edited by MasterTomos; 08-29-2011 at 03:32 PM.
#148
LMAO
Ported heads and reworked cams aren't exactly bolt-ons buddy.......
Also, I see that there is no concrete evidence/sources other than rumors fueling the 600hp+ GT500's. Third source you posted did say, however, that it will beat out the new Camaro Z28! (Lmao...I think this alone validates the credibility and accuracy of your sources).
Good lord...this thread is filled with fail.
Ported heads and reworked cams aren't exactly bolt-ons buddy.......
Also, I see that there is no concrete evidence/sources other than rumors fueling the 600hp+ GT500's. Third source you posted did say, however, that it will beat out the new Camaro Z28! (Lmao...I think this alone validates the credibility and accuracy of your sources).
Good lord...this thread is filled with fail.
And there is no Z28 coming. Sorry to disappoint you GM guys. Your Z28 is the ZL1.
#149
First off the gt500's weighs 3900lbs. The 5.0 weighs 3600 lbs. That's 300lbs. I beleive a friends of ohioborn's ran his car to a 12.1 because he was a very good driver. Ohioborn ran a 12.3 best right? The gt500 usualy dyno's around 470-480 hp. The new 5.0 dyno's around 390hp. So yea a car with less than 100 more hp and weighs 300lbs more should run higher 11's. Higher being more than 11.5. 11.6 is a higher 11. So jesus christ man I am serious.
12.22@114 was my best. That was after a bunch (7-10)of 12.4-12.6 passes and some coaching from my friend. Also 390 is on the high side. Average for a manual 5.0 is 370-375ish.
Like I said average GT500 owners will run 12s. Good drivers high 11's. Great drivers mid 11's. That is stock. On slicks it changes some. Average drivers will still run high 11's-low 12s. Good mid-high 11's. Great drivers will get them low 11's-mid 11's. But still have to take track prep and DA into that as well.
Like I said average GT500 owners will run 12s. Good drivers high 11's. Great drivers mid 11's. That is stock. On slicks it changes some. Average drivers will still run high 11's-low 12s. Good mid-high 11's. Great drivers will get them low 11's-mid 11's. But still have to take track prep and DA into that as well.
Edit: And I like how you erased your post about me being a "Mustang owner," like that was justification for you arguing with me for no reason at all. Smooth move, guess I should have quoted you.
#150
Anyone wondering about the weight, while an exact curb weight hasn't been confirmed, it has been talked about. The current curb weight on the CTS-V's is around 4,200 lbs. It was in my previous post with the interview with Al Oppeneheiser, he said the new Camaro ZL1 will be right around the same weight as the current SS model (depending upon options) aka 3800ish lbs thanks the leightweight body panels, wheels, carbon fiber, ect. ect.
High 11's should be a cakewalk for it, maybe even mid 11's. Also with nearly perfect weight distribution, along with launch control, revised/beefed up FE4 suspension, this car will more than likely not be a slouch in any category.
Last edited by MasterTomos; 08-29-2011 at 06:10 PM.
#151
We shall see. I can see it running about even with the current GT500, both on stock tires. But since it won't be here for another several months, we don't know what is going to happen in the meantime.
#152
No ****...I was pointing out the credibility (and age) of your sources. And I highly doubt I will be dissapointed in the ZL1. Currently the CTS-V's run low 12's and the ZL1 will be lighter by 300-400 pounds, and have more power to boot.
Anyone wondering about the weight, while an exact curb weight hasn't been confirmed, it has been talked about. The current curb weight on the CTS-V's is around 4,200 lbs. It was in my previous post with the interview with Al Oppeneheiser, he said the new Camaro ZL1 will be right around the same weight as the current SS model (depending upon options) aka 3800ish lbs thanks the leightweight body panels, wheels, carbon fiber, ect. ect.
High 11's should be a cakewalk for it, maybe even mid 11's. Also with nearly perfect weight distribution, along with launch control, revised/beefed up FE4 suspension, this car will more than likely not be a slouch in any category.
Anyone wondering about the weight, while an exact curb weight hasn't been confirmed, it has been talked about. The current curb weight on the CTS-V's is around 4,200 lbs. It was in my previous post with the interview with Al Oppeneheiser, he said the new Camaro ZL1 will be right around the same weight as the current SS model (depending upon options) aka 3800ish lbs thanks the leightweight body panels, wheels, carbon fiber, ect. ect.
High 11's should be a cakewalk for it, maybe even mid 11's. Also with nearly perfect weight distribution, along with launch control, revised/beefed up FE4 suspension, this car will more than likely not be a slouch in any category.
And where do you get more power then the CTS-V?
#153
With all those mods they still havent broke in the 10's with H/G/I. That isn't really impressive. I know the 4th gens has. I know the 5.0 has went 10's with just bolt ons.
YA we covered this already. Just like every z06 does run 10's or 11's. Or every C/H/I LS1 dont run 11s or 10's as well.
YA we covered this already. Just like every z06 does run 10's or 11's. Or every C/H/I LS1 dont run 11s or 10's as well.
#154
#155
#157
If you can't see the amount of back-tracking you did, let me show you. Ohio posted up a video of that GT500 with slicks running the ~11.2. Then you say this;
So you call the video he posted of a GT500 running low 11s with slicks "bs." Then this;
Now, everybody knew we were talking about the '11 GT500s. That is the car in the thread title, and that is the car in the video Ohio posted. So you were saying that an '11 GT500 with slicks was a high 11s car. Then I call you on it, and this is your response.
HIGHER THAN 11.5. For an '11 GT500 on slicks. You have now said it several times. Now let's see what happens now.
And then you start agreeing with him, and tell ME that he proved your point? The point that you were arguing with me (for some reason) about? Right...
NOBODY was talking about anything but '11 GT500s. Back. Track.
Edit: And I like how you erased your post about me being a "Mustang owner," like that was justification for you arguing with me for no reason at all. Smooth move, guess I should have quoted you.
So you call the video he posted of a GT500 running low 11s with slicks "bs." Then this;
Now, everybody knew we were talking about the '11 GT500s. That is the car in the thread title, and that is the car in the video Ohio posted. So you were saying that an '11 GT500 with slicks was a high 11s car. Then I call you on it, and this is your response.
HIGHER THAN 11.5. For an '11 GT500 on slicks. You have now said it several times. Now let's see what happens now.
And then you start agreeing with him, and tell ME that he proved your point? The point that you were arguing with me (for some reason) about? Right...
NOBODY was talking about anything but '11 GT500s. Back. Track.
Edit: And I like how you erased your post about me being a "Mustang owner," like that was justification for you arguing with me for no reason at all. Smooth move, guess I should have quoted you.
#158
Like the future GT500 numbers, it is still just a rumor.
GM is currently describing the power level as "at least 550hp."
The most current rumor (credible, but not confirmed by GM), is "North of 570hp."
http://www.lsxtv.com/features/rumor-...l1-hp-numbers/
Read the last paragraph for the rumored power figure.
The quickest time I've seen magazines achieve for the CTS-V is a 12.3 @ 119.
The cool thing is they've done that in the sedan AND the heavier wagon.
Screw the GT500 and the ZL1, I want a damn CTS-V Wagon.
If I'm going to drive something that weighs over 3800lbs, it better be somewhat convenient and luxurious.
GM is currently describing the power level as "at least 550hp."
The most current rumor (credible, but not confirmed by GM), is "North of 570hp."
http://www.lsxtv.com/features/rumor-...l1-hp-numbers/
Read the last paragraph for the rumored power figure.
The quickest time I've seen magazines achieve for the CTS-V is a 12.3 @ 119.
The cool thing is they've done that in the sedan AND the heavier wagon.
Screw the GT500 and the ZL1, I want a damn CTS-V Wagon.
If I'm going to drive something that weighs over 3800lbs, it better be somewhat convenient and luxurious.
#159
This local vette owner had his 08Z dynoed and tuned at the same shop mine was, pulled 428whp bone stock, 462whp with a tune only. Like you said 40-50 is a bit much but they do respond nicely.
#160
Like the future GT500 numbers, it is still just a rumor.
GM is currently describing the power level as "at least 550hp."
The most current rumor (credible, but not confirmed by GM), is "North of 570hp."
http://www.lsxtv.com/features/rumor-...l1-hp-numbers/
Read the last paragraph for the rumored power figure.
The quickest time I've seen magazines achieve for the CTS-V is a 12.3 @ 119.
The cool thing is they've done that in the sedan AND the heavier wagon.
Screw the GT500 and the ZL1, I want a damn CTS-V Wagon.
If I'm going to drive something that weighs over 3800lbs, it better be somewhat convenient and luxurious.
GM is currently describing the power level as "at least 550hp."
The most current rumor (credible, but not confirmed by GM), is "North of 570hp."
http://www.lsxtv.com/features/rumor-...l1-hp-numbers/
Read the last paragraph for the rumored power figure.
The quickest time I've seen magazines achieve for the CTS-V is a 12.3 @ 119.
The cool thing is they've done that in the sedan AND the heavier wagon.
Screw the GT500 and the ZL1, I want a damn CTS-V Wagon.
If I'm going to drive something that weighs over 3800lbs, it better be somewhat convenient and luxurious.