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Old 09-17-2011, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It should get ya close working off lbs.
Sometimes it does, but alot of the time it doesn't, especially when you start comparing turbo setups to blower setups or different blower setups to each other.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Sometimes it does, but alot of the time it doesn't, especially when you start comparing turbo setups to blower setups or different blower setups to each other.
I understand that. It typically takes 3lb just to run the blower from what I've seen.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Thanks. Can't remember if I mentioned this earlier or not but he's going to turn the boost up and I'll be spraying so look for rematch videos. Will have videos of me vs a k20 crx up later tonight.
Is the K20 boosted? If not should be a walk in the park for you. Now he has a turbo could be the death of you again. The K20 will handle about 450-500whp on stock internals. Got a buddy that just built his civic Si. On a roll that thing is pretty nasty. He is on 24psi on stock internals and makes right around 475whp. From a dig it is worthless.
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Originally Posted by dtsti
Weak sauce. I would pull lol.
If you wouldn't have moved across the country we could line em up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJW3ZanrV4

Here's the mustang running a turbo rsx that made 355 whp and weighs around ~2800 lbs. I realize the video is shitty but they were dead even. 2vs definitely can't run hard, mines a turd.
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Are you trying to say the turbo rsx would've out ran you too? I'm not impressed by them at all. A good bolt-on car could run with one of those.
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You're ******* high.
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ok that trans am is a turd if that rsx kept up with that mustang.

I have over 20 videos running various turbo honda's. Cam only and on nitrous and I can tell you right now that the rsx is nothing more then a low 12 second car. They are the heavier platform in the honda world.
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**** this one has 50 less whp than the one the mustang raced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpk77FNGZU
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Are you trying to say the turbo rsx would've out ran you too? I'm not impressed by them at all. A good bolt-on car could run with one of those.
Dude, as much as I hate rsx's, one with 355 to the tire isn't going to be a 12.9 car at 108 like a lid exhaust ls1.

Btw boost in a stock eaton is much diff than a turbo, not to mention completely differn't powerbands; Ohh, and weight.

2v's are the worst mustangs made, but they run very well with boost. They get a bad rep from the owners with full bolt ons and gears running 14's.
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
Dude, as much as I hate rsx's, one with 355 to the tire isn't going to be a 12.9 car at 108 like a lid exhaust ls1.

Btw boost in a stock eaton is much diff than a turbo, not to mention completely differn't powerbands; Ohh, and weight.

2v's are the worst mustangs made, but they run very well with boost. They get a bad rep from the owners with full bolt ons and gears running 14's.
Well maybe I am a little twisted...my car ran a 12.6@ almost 113 with just poopy mac headers/ory, lid, and a granitelli mass air on stock wheels, stock catback.
Hell I just whooped the **** out of a s2000 with 400rwhp. I know a guy with a turbo civic that runs pretty good, but we're still only talking 13.0 ish
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well maybe I am a little twisted...my car ran a 12.6@ almost 113 with just poopy mac headers/ory, lid, and a granitelli mass air on stock wheels, stock catback.
Hell I just whooped the **** out of a s2000 with 400rwhp. I know a guy with a turbo civic that runs pretty good, but we're still only talking 13.0 ish
the s2k had traction problems then or driver error...or the numbers were made up.

this is my buddys fully built s2k. In this video, its on low boost and pump gas (500rwhp) on high boost and race gas it made 960rwhp. Ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTZt...layer_embedded
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
ok that trans am is a turd if that rsx kept up with that mustang.

I have over 20 videos running various turbo honda's. Cam only and on nitrous and I can tell you right now that the rsx is nothing more then a low 12 second car. They are the heavier platform in the honda world.
Yea because turbo fwd cars are renowned for their drag racing prowess. They went from rolls and the rsx is hooking. Turbo Hondas are not created equally, I put busses on a boosted integra running more boost than the RSX. Your generalization fails, hard. I'll find a local fbody running similar mods and race it on video. Easiest way to prove if the trans am runs as it should.
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
the s2k had traction problems then or driver error...or the numbers were made up.

this is my buddys fully built s2k. In this video, its on low boost and pump gas (500rwhp) on high boost and race gas it made 960rwhp. Ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTZt...layer_embedded
Big deal...it's fully built. The one I ran was'nt. It was a turbo kit tuned to 400 rwhp. Nothing made up.
Hell the one in your vid would be a good run me ...maybe even egde me even with my newest mods that I haven't been to the track with yet.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Big deal...it's fully built. The one I ran was'nt. It was a turbo kit tuned to 400 rwhp. Nothing made up.
its only fully built because it blew up on the stock motor on 556rwhp. The car before the built motor on 400rwhp went mid 11's @ 119.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Big deal...it's fully built. The one I ran was'nt. It was a turbo kit tuned to 400 rwhp. Nothing made up.
Hell the one in your vid would be a good run me ...maybe even egde me even with my newest mods that I haven't been to the track with yet.
what? lol

on his 556rwhp setup he put 2 cars on me on my 100 shot (517rwhp)
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the passengers definitely made a difference in the outcome. if you had 2 200lb dudes in there, that's basically 4 mph. he would've had to work a lot harder to make that up. i don't know that he would've passed you before 120 from a low roll if you were empty, but i'm sure he would've been pulling.

good runs. and yeah, you need to set the scene a little better with regard to info in the opening post. i saw that and was like WTF i've drug boosted 2v cars with my lid/muffler car haha.
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
its only fully built because it blew up on the stock motor on 556rwhp. The car before the built motor on 400rwhp went mid 11's @ 119.
Ok...then I would've outran him too @ 400rwhp. Last time to the track I ran a 11.1@124. It's no bid deal, it's just what happened.
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those s2ks aren't built. haha this was kind of is...it has been down awhile for upgrades but is rumored to have been on the dyno already this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lCjOgoyEM
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
The car has a Trex cam so they better get to ignoring it. Mustang made 475 on 9 lbs so its no slouch.

it COULD make that if its forged and has TFS "R" heads on it. if it has factory heads 475 is overrated. 9 psi will make ~380rwhp usually. 12 psi ~425rwhp then boom.

EDIT: there is one person i know if who home built a twin 62-1 and made 510rwhp on 13psi. he made 292rwhp on motor. his tune let it live. his final numbers were around 700rwhp on the same turbo setup with Tim Barth tuning. stock bottom end.

only one ive EVER heard of doing that. all documented. anyone who doubts can call Tim Barth at modular powerhouse. i can provide documentation.


that mustang was running max boost it can handle IMO. not 6psi. 6 psi would get it around 400hp at the crank. maybe.

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