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Old 10-07-2011, 10:03 AM
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You simply dont get it do you? lmao its not gonna be at full potential without the good ratio of the getrag. it keeps it above 5,000 rpm where the 5.0 shows its power. simlar to a dirt bike power band. does that relate to you? The 4.6 is a tird without blower. twinscrew/roots = instant torque and power to were it doesnt need the gear as much.
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Where do you work? You really can't be a tech, much less over the age of 15.
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I work on mercedes and bmw buddy. You dont have a clue! even the auto 5.0 trans is geared closer than all manual trans options . roflmao u beter read before you post!
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as far as tremec tkos and t56s. the getrag manual is the only one with closer ratio. you are looking at a power number instead of the whole package that equals = acceleration

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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
So 6000 RPMS from a 5.0 is somehow different than 6000 RPMS for a 4.6? Do teach wise one. Holy **** better tell everyone that put a T56 behind their 302 that its not going to work, hell it has a whole extra gear! The engine might explode.
Will you show me all these 5.0's with T56 behind them? Becuase I know for a fact there is some issues with switching to it. I have already looked into it after I lost my first tranny. Biggest the speed sensors will not work with each other. A custom piece would have to be made. No one has made one yet. They just released a C4 tranny direct swap that still needs a lot of aftermarket parts to work. Yet a C4 is not going to be very street-able. No matter what they tell you.

here is you gearing for the trannies below. The coyote loves to shine above 5000rpms he is right. I rev mine to 7800 and when shift never drop below 6k. The coyote as been all way up to 950whp. But for how long is the thing. Many are running into trouble around the 700whp range. Yes they have survived. But again for how long. As the ones that really beat on them at that level have forged internals or some type of built block. RGR/MMR/L&M.

TRANSMISSION
Standard 6-speed manual
Gear ratios
1st 3.66
2nd 2.43
3rd 1.69
4th 1.32
5th 1.00
6th 0.65

Auto 6 speed.
1st 4.17
2nd 2.34
3rd 1.52
4th 1.14
5th 0.87
6th 0.69
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Most people that have not did some work or played with the 5.0's still dyno them in 4th for manuals and 3rd for the auto. Seen it first hand. Shops that claim to be the best. Yet little old me had to school them.
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Also if you look the fast AUto's are running huge stalls 4000+ with steep gears 4.30+
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Will you show me all these 5.0's with T56 behind them? Becuase I know for a fact there is some issues with switching to it. I have already looked into it after I lost my first tranny. Biggest the speed sensors will not work with each other. A custom piece would have to be made. No one has made one yet. They just released a C4 tranny direct swap that still needs a lot of aftermarket parts to work. Yet a C4 is not going to be very street-able. No matter what they tell you.

here is you gearing for the trannies below. The coyote loves to shine above 5000rpms he is right. I rev mine to 7800 and when shift never drop below 6k. The coyote as been all way up to 950whp. But for how long is the thing. Many are running into trouble around the 700whp range. Yes they have survived. But again for how long. As the ones that really beat on them at that level have forged internals or some type of built block. RGR/MMR/L&M.

TRANSMISSION
Standard 6-speed manual
Gear ratios
1st 3.66
2nd 2.43
3rd 1.69
4th 1.32
5th 1.00
6th 0.65

Auto 6 speed.
1st 4.17
2nd 2.34
3rd 1.52
4th 1.14
5th 0.87
6th 0.69
LOL I dont even keep up on modulars like youo guys do!



5 second google find right there
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Heres joe blow doing it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt2xQjWzvO0


It is well within what you wanted. Its got longtube swap headers and a tune. LOL

You "experts" really crack me up.
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So 1 that had to have custom **** done is better then the current tranny?

Also it don't tell you the custom bell housing and his speedo isn't work. Less he did a 1 off custom. Which is what 92 was talking about. More work then needed. WHy go threw all this when he can bolt everything right in. WHy fabricate when don't have to?
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
Heres joe blow doing it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt2xQjWzvO0


It is well within what you wanted. Its got longtube swap headers and a tune. LOL

You "experts" really crack me up.
Also he is faster with this how? Also notice he didn't mention his rear gears.

He is doing no better then this guy. WHo is tune only. Which love the reving engine. They have the tranny geared so steep for a reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy4lZ2XbWU
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That fox would have ran better with a steeper tranny gearing. HMMM Lighter and smaller then a 2011 body. So no more to show? 1 car? You said all them.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Also it don't tell you the custom bell housing and his speedo isn't work. Less he did a 1 off custom. Which is what 92 was talking about. More work then needed. WHy go threw all this when he can bolt everything right in. WHy fabricate when don't have to?
1. You dont have a clue what you're talking about

2. 4.6, 5.0. 5.4 use the same bellhousing

3. Ford racing makes swap parts for it?

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Also he is faster with this how? Also notice he didn't mention his rear gears.

He is doing no better then this guy. WHo is tune only. Which love the reving engine. They have the tranny geared so steep for a reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy4lZ2XbWU

What are you trying to say?
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
That fox would have ran better with a steeper tranny gearing. HMMM Lighter and smaller then a 2011 body. So no more to show? 1 car? You said all them.
It was his first pass, car wasnt even dyno tuned just a base tune.

Those were the first couple links when I googled. You said it wasn't possible and you were quite clearly wrong.

Put your foot in your mouth please.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
It was his first pass, car wasnt even dyno tuned just a base tune.

Those were the first couple links when I googled. You said it wasn't possible and you were quite clearly wrong.

Put your foot in your mouth please.
Never said wasn't possible. I said some issues with it. That is what I said.

Also if so easy and so common why no one doing it in the 11+? Or no one carrying easy conversion kits like do for the C4? Three of the biggest guys don't. They all run the stock tranny or a C4. HMMMM

http://store.jpcracing.com/Transmiss...ies_c_781.html

http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...n-c-8486_10278

http://www.evoperform.com/shop/index...ndex&cPath=267
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Never said wasn't possible. I said some issues with it. That is what I said.

Also if so easy and so common why no one doing it in the 11+? Or no one carrying easy conversion kits like do for the C4? Three of the biggest guys don't. They all run the stock tranny or a C4. HMMMM

http://store.jpcracing.com/Transmiss...ies_c_781.html

http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...n-c-8486_10278

http://www.evoperform.com/shop/index...ndex&cPath=267
You could be a black hole. No one swaps a T56 into a 2011+ because THEY ARE UNDER WARRANTY

I really dont care what you found, D and D sells them. D and D and Ford Racing also sell T56s with mechanical speedos Get a clue.

What next?
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
1. You dont have a clue what you're talking about

2. 4.6, 5.0. 5.4 use the same bellhousing

3. Ford racing makes swap parts for it?




What are you trying to say?
He selected wrong tranny. DUH.

And yes on the bell housing. I was think with the C4. Ford don't make a driveshaft for the swap. And for the speedo connection. They use two different styles. No adapter yet. One electrical from what one not from what a few of the speed shops was saying. Something along them lines. JPC was testing a T56 or something but had that issue also. Nothing ever came out of it. Least yet.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
He selected wrong tranny. DUH.

And yes on the bell housing. I was think with the C4. Ford don't make a driveshaft for the swap. And for the speedo connection. They use two different styles. No adapter yet. One electrical from what one not from what a few of the speed shops was saying. Something along them lines. JPC was testing a T56 or something but had that issue also. Nothing ever came out of it. Least yet.
1. Take driveshaft to any drivetrain shop
2. Ask them to shorten it
2. Pay for driveshaft (usucally negiligble amount)
4. Set world on fire with your super custom setup that was not possible according to ohioborn.

Speedo? Mechanical. Thanks for playing.


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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
You could be a black hole. No one swaps a T56 into a 2011+ because THEY ARE UNDER WARRANTY

I really dont care what you found, D and D sells them. D and D and Ford Racing also sell T56s with mechanical speedos Get a clue.

What next?
Maybe you missed where ford is voiding warranty's for all kinds of crap on the 5.0's.

Where do they sell the stuff to mate it as a kit? Maybe I missed it?

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/index.php?cPath=108

cause this 5,.0 isnt the coyote they are talking about.

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/pr...6cPath=107_124

the electric version..Call them not compatible with the coyote wiring harness.

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/in...ath=107_92_126
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Maybe you missed where ford is voiding warranty's for all kinds of crap on the 5.0's.

Where do they sell the stuff to mate it as a kit? Maybe I missed it?

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/index.php?cPath=108

cause this 5,.0 isnt the coyote they are talking about.

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/pr...6cPath=107_124

the electric version..Call them not compatible with the coyote wiring harness.

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/in...ath=107_92_126
Holy **** you're retarded. Do you see the kit that has a crossmember with a T56? Thats for a fox body. Its been done w/ the new 5.0.

http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/pr...6cPath=107_124

Mechanical or electric.

This is really getting old, come up with something new.


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