AWDTBSS

Was the GMC Syclone really faster than all these car?

karpetcm

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There was a car and driver vid a long time ago where they put it on the dyno a 97 model i think yellow in color and it dynoed 250 rwhp. Not bad because if you go off what there rated at the motor, they are underated from the factory. They weight 2800-2900lbs as well which makes a good combo.

hendrixx

Pay attention, I didnt say best either? I said fastest around a track as well... and who gives a **** who uses vtak or not?

Irunelevens

Ask the engineers for the many companies that use some sort of variable valve/cam timing.

hendrixx

And then, ask them, how it does nothing for their for performance, as theyre all the slowest, fuel economic cars on the market, so again... who. gives. a. flying. satellite. ****.

Irunelevens

Damn you are ignorant. Ferrari, Lamborghini, the last Viper... All use some sort of variable valve or cam timing. The new Mustang GT does as well. Pretty sure there are Few half-ton trucks that do as well.

hendrixx

Damn youre ignorant as well for insisting that an NSX is any bit exotic. I know A LOT of cars have VVTi but no one ****** advertises it like Honda did. Especially when v-tec was just a ricers dream and nothing more... whats wrong with a regular DOHC 2.0?

Irunelevens

www.howstuffworks.com

I'm not going to tell you something you can read about yourself. You are the one that said all the cars with variable valve or cam timing were slow.

LOOKn4it

i think some of you are confusing exotics and super cars... bentley, rolls royce, maybach all considered exotic

Killemall

Dammit none of the above mentioned cars seem exotic to me. Just expensive with nice interiors.

Nsx ran high 13s back in 1991. That was deadly fast back then.
Nsx ran the ring in 8.30 back then. Again amazingly fast.

The street legal nsx-r ran a 7.5x at the ring back then. In comparison a 2004 z06 driven by dave hill himself ran a 7.5x over tenyears later.

So when he says the fastest that money could buy back then thats exactly what he means.

Then theirs the fit and finish. Look at the interior in a 91 nsx and then look at a 91 vette viper ferrari lambo ect.

The nsx makes them all look like ****. If it wernt for the nsx our beloved lambos and ferraris wouldnt have the bling bling interiors they have today. Before the nsx changed the exotic game all the vipers lambos ferraris ect had interiors that looked like somthing you would see on a gokart.

Not fair to judge a 20 year old desighn by todays standards gotta go apples to apples to see tne nsx's acomplishments

Hotrod182

Well, Car And Driver tested my Grand National to run a 4.9 sec 0-60 times back in 86. But we are talking about 3.8 and 4.3L (Syclone) FORCED INDUCTION cars. And again, they wouldn't hang with a NSX around a race track...and shared the same bodies as the regular economy versions.

AWDTBSS

still a complete waste of money now-a-days considering its really slow and ugly imo, would rather have a c5z or c6 ls3 for the price of a nsx now

Orange Juice

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If I remember correctly they were one of the first cars to have tires that were made exclusively to match the suspension of the car. It was one of the reasons that the car handled so well

Irunelevens

Take this for what it's worth... If you think an NSX is "really ugly," I have to question your taste. Regardless of what car you drive.

AWDTBSS

question it all u want lol i dont see why people think they look good, but then again the only japanese car i like is the new GTR

LightningTeg

VTEC is still the only system I know off where the actual cam profile changes. Its not some cheesy ignition or cam timing thing like most cars today.

And while vtec in essence is for economy, it allows for a very good powerband and still having good drive ability at low rpm.

The cam in my integra (non vtec) is essentially the STOCK vtec cam profile in a GSR and it wont idle below 800 rpm.

RSKY

1991 NSX interior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKf7Wp6Ejo

1991 Lamborghini Diablo (looks similar.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hViFXTSsiq8

1991 Ferrari Testarossa. (still doesn't look like ****)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPDYgYRTi6Y

Even the 1990 ZR1 interior isn't that bad.. even though its bright red!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHWCg4jd-lw

1992 Viper interior



I think you don't know what your talking about. If you compare the vids and pic of the interiors, it doesn't make any of them look like ****. Just because the previous owner put a dvd screen in your 1991 NSX doesn't mean they all come like that. Just sayin..

Just like your comment that the Viper is a base model exotics.

Viper is a street legal race car. High priced Sports car. Ring times don't make it an exotic.

Red_GHost

"Exotic' from my understanding means "Hand Built" which i read, the early NSX's were.

Red_GHost

The nsx is "slow" in a straight line. As honda developed it with a "real" track in mind. not just the 3% of the track (the straight away's). It was never meant to have the low end grunt of a v8, but to be the quickest in the turns. Ive never heard people point out a 90's Corvette and say, "hey is that a ferrari" Still till this day, like 20 years later, the styling, handling, reliabilty, are still "Comparable" with todays, Supercars.

Irunelevens

RSKY, I think what he was getting at was the ergonomics and feel of the NSX's interior compared to the cars you mentioned. Both the Italians look fantastic, but they are much less user-friendly. And the Viper interior was like a sportier Caravan. The central theme of the NSX was a car that performed with the best, that was easy to drive at the limit and comfortable to live with. And when it was released, and basically until the C5 came out, it was the best at that, with few real competitors that did everything so well.