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Old 10-04-2011 | 10:31 AM
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My car, 2000 Camaro SS M6: BBK LT, no cats, Magnaflow cat-back, K&N CAI, ported F.A.S.T w/ported opening to accept a 85mm throttle body, !EGR, !AIR, stage2 Diamond clutch kit, 4.11 gears, Edlebrock torque arm, panhard bar, Eibach springs, Frost tune. At the time it had 255 street tires on the rear.

Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI, 80mm MAF, mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters.

Guy at my unit had been talking about his cobra beating corvettes and a few WS6/LS1 cars. I told him I would drive my car to work and see how his car fared against mine.

We had two races from a 35 and 40 mph roll.

Both races I spun launching in 2nd and spun shifting into 3rd. I still jumped a full car in front of him and them pulled about 1.5 -2 cars in 3rd and he stayed there after shutting down about 100mph. I figured I would have pulled away from him more. We pulled over and I told him he has a pretty strong car and I could believe he might could edge it out against a stock A4 LS1 car.

Maybe I should get some larger stickier tires and race again.
Old 10-04-2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBurgZ28
My car, 2000 Camaro SS M6: BBK LT, no cats, Magnaflow cat-back, K&N CAI, ported F.A.S.T w/ported opening to accept a 85mm throttle body, !EGR, !AIR, stage2 Diamond clutch kit, 4.11 gears, Edlebrock torque arm, panhard bar, Eibach springs, Frost tune. At the time it had 255 street tires on the rear.

Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI (useless), 80mm MAF(useless), mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters (usless).

Guy at my unit had been talking about his cobra beating corvettes and a few WS6/LS1 cars. I told him I would drive my car to work and see how his car fared against mine.

We had two races from a 35 and 40 mph roll.

Both races I spun launching in 2nd and spun shifting into 3rd. I still jumped a full car in front of him and them pulled about 1.5 -2 cars in 3rd and he stayed there after shutting down about 100mph. I figured I would have pulled away from him more. We pulled over and I told him he has a pretty strong car and I could believe he might could edge it out against a stock A4 LS1 car.

Maybe I should get some larger stickier tires and race again.
Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI (useless), 80mm MAF(useless), mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters (usless).

Good kill. I would expect you to pull more as well. Especially the cobra having 3.27 gears and its torque challenged.

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Old 10-04-2011 | 10:49 AM
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Thanks, I should do better with some real tires. But his car did surprise me!
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Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI (useless), 80mm MAF(useless), mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters (usless).

Good kill. I would expect you to pull more as well. Especially the cobra having 3.27 gears and its torque challenged.

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Tell us what mods aren't useless for those cars then.



Nice run OP, I would have expected you to pull more as well. But those 255's weren't helping at all.
Old 10-04-2011 | 02:43 PM
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Good kill OP..
Ls1 FTW
98 cobra(useless)
Old 10-04-2011 | 03:10 PM
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Nice kill! But apparently you were racing a USELESS car. lol
Old 10-04-2011 | 03:47 PM
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The whole car is useless.

No boost and no good rods.
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Tell your buddy to get some gears in that car!!

Nice races!
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
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Nice run OP, I would have expected you to pull more as well. But those 255's weren't helping at all.
The mail order tune probably helped a little but not much. The cat-less mid pipe would help, but he choked it up again with the Flowmasters. B-headed Cobras (96-98) are pretty slow compared to later models. I've ran into a couple bolt-on ones and they seem like they would be a good run with a 2 or 3V GT.
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Originally Posted by camaroboy14
Good kill OP..
Ls1 FTW
98 cobra(useless)
hahaha
Old 10-04-2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBurgZ28
My car, 2000 Camaro SS M6: BBK LT, no cats, Magnaflow cat-back, K&N CAI, ported F.A.S.T w/ported opening to accept a 85mm throttle body, !EGR, !AIR, stage2 Diamond clutch kit, 4.11 gears, Edlebrock torque arm, panhard bar, Eibach springs, Frost tune. At the time it had 255 street tires on the rear.

Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI, 80mm MAF, mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters.

Guy at my unit had been talking about his cobra beating corvettes and a few WS6/LS1 cars. I told him I would drive my car to work and see how his car fared against mine.

We had two races from a 35 and 40 mph roll.

Both races I spun launching in 2nd and spun shifting into 3rd. I still jumped a full car in front of him and them pulled about 1.5 -2 cars in 3rd and he stayed there after shutting down about 100mph. I figured I would have pulled away from him more. We pulled over and I told him he has a pretty strong car and I could believe he might could edge it out against a stock A4 LS1 car.

Maybe I should get some larger stickier tires and race again.
the factory MAF IS a 80mm. cobra= 270rwhp.

Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Tell us what mods aren't useless for those cars then.



Nice run OP, I would have expected you to pull more as well. But those 255's weren't helping at all.
man almost NO mod will help them. getting one over 280rwhp takes Herculean efforts. and torque. try 260after modding and BEFORE it gets miles. secondary ports clog totally closed by 75k miles. the 4v i have had several ports 75percent closed at 90k miles. i couldnt stick my pincky finger in them.


So, they need all boltons, a short runner intake, 4.30 gears, weight reductions.



to put it into perspective, the corba you raced would have a hard time beating a bolt 99-04 2V GT.

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You definitely should of pulled him harder. As far as him edging out an A4 LS1... No way man. Your spinning is what killed you brother. My younger cousin has a 96 Cobra (same thing as a 98) with a tune, ORX, Magnapacks, intake, tune Demon Coils, Drag radials, etc. His car ran a best of 13.4 at 103 mph on a 1.9 60'. I'm running high 12s at 107-108. Back when I had my supercharged Cobalt.... well, from a 40 roll this happened.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pfh4...el_video_title
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Friends 1998 Cobra: CAI (useless), 80mm MAF(useless), mail order tune, No cats w/ x-pipe and 40s flowmasters (usless).

Good kill. I would expect you to pull more as well. Especially the cobra having 3.27 gears and its torque challenged.

-Mark

pshhhhhh like you know anything about 98 cobras anyways
Old 10-04-2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Tell us what mods aren't useless for those cars then.
L/T's, O/R mid pipe, pullies, shortrunner intake, big gears (4.10+), and a shifter are ones that you'd notice a drop in ET. All the CAI, TB, MAF, and a EWP are things you should do absolutely last if you run out of things and just want to buy something for the car.

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pshhhhhh like you know anything about 98 cobras anyways
Ya, what do I know. lol.

-Mark
Old 10-04-2011 | 10:37 PM
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Good kill OP. Tell him to get some gears

Originally Posted by camaroboy14
Good kill OP..
Ls1 FTW
98 cobra(useless)
Good joke, as useless as a ls1

Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Tell your buddy to get some gears in that car!!

Nice races!

Yes, they need gears bad
Old 10-05-2011 | 01:51 AM
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F8L BYT so your telling me a few bolt on mods similar to what this 98 cobra has, doesn't make a difference in a LS car? And I was only saying useless because bite ark 46 keeps saying useless lol ...
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here we go again lol... nice kill op and this is off topic but f8l ive seen your car in columbus a few time's nice car man Ive been hoping to catch you out sometime i can't find any good races down there. Im in a teal formula always at tire barn.
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Originally Posted by jmofield
here we go again lol... nice kill op and this is off topic but f8l ive seen your car in columbus a few time's nice car man Ive been hoping to catch you out sometime i can't find any good races down there. Im in a teal formula always at tire barn.
That sounds like fighting words!!
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Good kill. I'd slap a tire on it and you'll probably see results more in line with what you expected.

Those 96-98 Cobras look great, even if one of the owners is a bit defensive
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ

Those 96-98 Cobras look great, even if one of the owners is a bit defensive
I'm flowing heavy this month. lol.

I was draggin *** yesterday cause I went to the Monday night game and didn' get home til 1:30 so my fuse was shorter than normal.


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