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Old 01-23-2012, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by badazz99ta
Who isn't full bolt ons?
Your car, you have more in it.

I'm not sure what all is available for the 5.0 so I don't know if thats considered full bolt ons or not.
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You apperantly. You've got some power left in that ls6. You should've just flat obliterated him.....check my sig. That's a production ls6. I ran a 5.0 last summer and did'nt hardly know he was there.
The only things I could bolt on would be a pulley and a fast set up, which would be pointless on my car as is. And putting a pulley on would also be retarted without doing a cam swap. You also have 3.90's, I have the stock 3.42's. I still consider my car 'full bolt ons'
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Good runs! The modular 5.0 is a beast for sure.
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Originally Posted by badazz99ta
The only things I could bolt on would be a pulley and a fast set up, which would be pointless on my car as is. And putting a pulley on would also be retarted without doing a cam swap. You also have 3.90's, I have the stock 3.42's. I still consider my car 'full bolt ons'
FAST setup (larger MAF/SD)
EWP
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25% UD pulley

Whether it would be retarded to do any of them or only 5-10Rwhp for X,XXX$..... It is still bolt ons you don't have that would make your car faster.

Consider it whatever you want, but it isn't full bolt ons. A full bolt on Z would have left that thing harder than you did. IE. Hio.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
FAST setup (larger MAF/SD)
EWP
Gears
25% UD pulley

Whether it would be retarded to do any of them or only 5-10Rwhp for X,XXX$..... It is still bolt ons you don't have that would make your car faster.

Consider it whatever you want, but it isn't full bolt ons. A full bolt on Z would have left that thing harder than you did. IE. Hio.
And then the Mustang owner will put a Boss intake on there, with a pulley and EWP and game on again. lol Both cars look to be evenly matched regardless. Bolt-on 5.0 times are right on par with bolt-on C5Z times sad to say.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
FAST setup (larger MAF/SD)
EWP
Gears
25% UD pulley

Whether it would be retarded to do any of them or only 5-10Rwhp for X,XXX$..... It is still bolt ons you don't have that would make your car faster.

Consider it whatever you want, but it isn't full bolt ons. A full bolt on Z would have left that thing harder than you did. IE. Hio.
Ok boss
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
And then the Mustang owner will put a Boss intake on there, with a pulley and EWP and game on again. lol Both cars look to be evenly matched regardless. Bolt-on 5.0 times are right on par with bolt-on C5Z times sad to say.
Originally Posted by lemons12
I'm not sure what all is available for the 5.0 so I don't know if thats considered full bolt ons or not.
Cool story?

More mods that get added, the larger the gap the Z will put between them.
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Its only 8 years newer lol.
I knew this was coming, I can't believe it took this long for someone to say it.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Cool story?

More mods that get added, the larger the gap the Z will put between them.
That's a dumb *** obvious statement. The same could be said for the 5.0. Coyote is even competition like it or not.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
That's a dumb *** obvious statement. The same could be said for the 5.0. Coyote is even competition like it or not.
You said that last comment as if they were both truly full bolt ons it would be the same outcome, and it wouldn't.

I could care less what either one of them do, I don't own either. I like both of them, except the looks of the 5.0.
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Originally Posted by badazz99ta
The only things I could bolt on would be a pulley and a fast set up, which would be pointless on my car as is. And putting a pulley on would also be retarted without doing a cam swap. You also have 3.90's, I have the stock 3.42's. I still consider my car 'full bolt ons'
You still have a lot more you can do as well as the Mustang

Originally Posted by lemons12
FAST setup (larger MAF/SD)
EWP
Gears
25% UD pulley

Whether it would be retarded to do any of them or only 5-10Rwhp for X,XXX$..... It is still bolt ons you don't have that would make your car faster.

Consider it whatever you want, but it isn't full bolt ons. A full bolt on Z would have left that thing harder than you did. IE. Hio.
A ported Fast intake would be an excellent mod along with more gear for the C5

Originally Posted by lemons12
Your car, you have more in it.

I'm not sure what all is available for the 5.0 so I don't know if thats considered full bolt ons or not.
Originally Posted by Redfire 03
And then the Mustang owner will put a Boss intake on there, with a pulley and EWP and game on again. lol Both cars look to be evenly matched regardless. Bolt-on 5.0 times are right on par with bolt-on C5Z times sad to say.
Originally Posted by lemons12
Cool story?

More mods that get added, the larger the gap the Z will put between them.
Originally Posted by Redfire 03
That's a dumb *** obvious statement. The same could be said for the 5.0. Coyote is even competition like it or not.
Originally Posted by lemons12
You said that last comment as if they were both truly full bolt ons it would be the same outcome, and it wouldn't.

I could care less what either one of them do, I don't own either. I like both of them, except the looks of the 5.0.
With more mods I agree the C5Z has the edge when compared to the 5.0. However there is no loser with either car

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BADAZZ99TA...for what ever it's worth, i think you did a great job...you're car is gorgeous...ford did do a nice job with the new 5.0's...chevy just has to saddle up and get there head out of there ***....i love the new camaro's, just wish jenny craig would visit chevy is all....great job again op...
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Originally Posted by badazz99ta
The only things I could bolt on would be a pulley and a fast set up, which would be pointless on my car as is. And putting a pulley on would also be retarted without doing a cam swap. You also have 3.90's, I have the stock 3.42's. I still consider my car 'full bolt ons'
as Lemons said. ewp, fast set-up, udp turn the rev limit to 7000 and shift @ 6800. That would make a huge difference. Probally near 20hp. I think your tune needs some work also. My ls6 went over 400rwhp the first time on the dyno with poopy mac headers and the stock SLP catback. The gear is'nt a big deal, especially from a roll. I just switched from 4.10 to 3.90 and picked up time. I actually would'nt mind trying some 3.73.
A set of 1.8 rr would get you 6hp. There's a thread where a guy made the swap and redyno'd.

I think with proper tune, 1.8rr, fast 102 a ls6 could get to 430rwhp....maybe a little over.
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And then the Mustang owner will put a Boss intake on there, with a pulley and EWP and game on again. lol Both cars look to be evenly matched regardless. Bolt-on 5.0 times are right on par with bolt-on C5Z times sad to say.
Not really, 5.0 mph is down a bit and the only ones running record times are completely gutted race cars. c5 zo6's has been high 11's bone stock.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
A ported Fast intake would be an excellent mod along with more gear for your car.
You won't see any real gains going from the stock LS6 intake to a FAST on a bolt-on LS6. For what it costs it's not even worth it.
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I agree.
But a ported fast 102 would show gains on a LS6. Its wouldn't be cheap though
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
You won't see any real gains going from the stock LS6 intake to a FAST on a bolt-on LS6. For what it costs it's not even worth it.
Show's what you know. I picked up 13rwhp @ peak(15 in some places) from a ported ls6 to a ported fast 90. A fast 102 will get ya a bit more. Also allowed me to turn another 200rpm.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
You won't see any real gains going from the stock LS6 intake to a FAST on a bolt-on LS6. For what it costs it's not even worth it.
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I agree.
But a ported fast 102 would show gains on a LS6. Its wouldn't be cheap though
It might now be "worth it", but the point is the OP doesn't have a full bolt on car. He still has a stock intake. The 102 WILL pick his car up, whether it is worth a grand or not is debatable.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
as Lemons said. ewp, fast set-up, udp turn the rev limit to 7000 and shift @ 6800. That would make a huge difference. Probally near 20hp. I think your tune needs some work also. My ls6 went over 400rwhp the first time on the dyno with poopy mac headers and the stock SLP catback. The gear is'nt a big deal, especially from a roll. I just switched from 4.10 to 3.90 and picked up time. I actually would'nt mind trying some 3.73.
A set of 1.8 rr would get you 6hp. There's a thread where a guy made the swap and redyno'd.

I think with proper tune, 1.8rr, fast 102 a ls6 could get to 430rwhp....maybe a little over.


Not really, 5.0 mph is down a bit and the only ones running record times are completely gutted race cars. c5 zo6's has been high 11's bone stock.
430whp for a bolt-on LS6 is being very optimistic. Again, a FAST is not going to gain much on a bolt-on LS6. With a ported FAST in the area of ~7whp and most likely lose a little TQ down low. At that minimal power level the LS6 manifold is not that much of a restriction. Besides a FAST 102 setup new cost about $1300!! LOL
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