rustang vs ls1
01-28-2012 | 12:43 AM
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Good lookin car you had Heater.
01-28-2012 | 02:19 AM
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I respect their speed and potential, but the Foxbody Mustangs are some of the ugliest Mustangs they ever made. Their look is just repulsive. The guy who traded his Foxbody in for a Cobra was smart. The 2003-2004 Cobras are some of the best looking and best equipped Mustangs ever built.
LoL, guess I'm not too smart; I still have my 89 LX Fox Body.
01-28-2012 | 08:39 AM
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01-28-2012 | 08:42 AM
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When Notch see's this he will be jerkin his dick. He just got a 4dr Fairmont 6cyl to do a build with. Untouched the car weighed 2860 I think he said. A.c. and all. Although I disagree with you on foxes being good cars....can you say torque boxes!!....floor cracking around the seats. The only thing they had goin is they were light.
Good lookin car you had Heater.
Good lookin car you had Heater.
i've never seen a problem with the torque boxes, although i've seen a couple with the upper control arms ripped out of the floor.
they were obviously good, as there are/were many many more of them on the road than most people realize, starting as far back as 1978, and technically speaking, running up till 2004.
01-28-2012 | 08:55 AM
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Cap the torque boxes are cracked up on almost every one I have looked at. The uppers can rip completly out of the floor.....and you think this is good??? The floor can be be a little hit or miss but VERY common. The reason why they built so many is they were CHEAP.
01-28-2012 | 09:06 AM
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i had one customer had a convertible 87 running 10's.....but he had welded the uppers, and gthe convertible already had extra bracing on the torque boxes.
01-28-2012 | 10:45 AM
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Got the connectors and some other minor suspension stuff but havent had a chance to get it to the track. The guy that built it thinks it should go 11.70's with traction (thats all he does it build mustangs and race them) but I cant confirm that at all. Just a quick little street car, certainly no race car. Its not 5 pages because nobody is talking **** yet 
With the mods shown for that Camaro as compared to yours, he never had a chance.
01-28-2012 | 11:32 AM
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I found one the other day that i ish liked on CL but its too far away to look at and he doesnt want to email me back. I dont want to sell the mustang without having something to immediately jump back into.
01-28-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Id love to see 11.5's. We both knew he wasnt going to win, he had a couple short runs in the past but he thought that maybe he couple make up the gap a little bit going to triple digits. It was fun
01-28-2012 | 12:29 PM
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the floor is the ones i saw problems with. but then, there was me running the one in the link, launching at 6k rpm, and not ripping them out. i also had a couple customers running similar setups to me, with no problems. none of the fox's i've worked on cracked those torque boxes.
i had one customer had a convertible 87 running 10's.....but he had welded the uppers, and gthe convertible already had extra bracing on the torque boxes.
i had one customer had a convertible 87 running 10's.....but he had welded the uppers, and gthe convertible already had extra bracing on the torque boxes.
LoL, that's just Hio grasping at straws to hate on the Fox Body's.
If someone real big (heavy) drove one for extended period of time; it would push one corner of the floor down under the seat. That would cause the "gangsta lean" that was so common with the drivers seat. Several sub frame connectors have the design that has "arms" that bolt to the underside of the seat in that area to reinforce the floor so that you don't get the "gangsta lean".
I've only seen one with the torque boxes ripped out and it was during the mid 90's. The car I saw was a local guys car that ran Southside Machine bars on it and he launched it at 6000 RPM's on nitrous. This particular car at that time was probably one of the most raced cars in our area. I was told that torque boxes being torn out was blamed on the Southsides.
No car is perfect, and when you push one to the point past what it was designed to do; you are going to find it's weakness's.
01-28-2012 | 12:52 PM
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the connectors will help massively. the next most important is the rear lower control arms. after them, absolutely install the quad shocks. those things alone with drag radials will let you launch that baby harder than you've imagined.
the 89 in the link in my sig was launching at 6k rpm, and hooking like a bastard, running 12.2'sm with nothing else done to the suspension.
if you want her to handle better too, look through the scrap yards for a 87 or newer front k-member, with its suspension. that was the first year of them changing the geometry of the front suspension to improve its handling..and it worked wonders.
people discount the fox bodied mustangs, but those that do, simply do not know them. they were well built, fairly light, handled good for what they were, and were stupidly fast too. if most of the guys here are honest, they'll recall that from 79 till 94 the common camaros couldn't touch the common mustangs. then ford dropped the ball, while chevy picked it up, and ran with it.
the 89 in the link in my sig was launching at 6k rpm, and hooking like a bastard, running 12.2'sm with nothing else done to the suspension.
if you want her to handle better too, look through the scrap yards for a 87 or newer front k-member, with its suspension. that was the first year of them changing the geometry of the front suspension to improve its handling..and it worked wonders.
people discount the fox bodied mustangs, but those that do, simply do not know them. they were well built, fairly light, handled good for what they were, and were stupidly fast too. if most of the guys here are honest, they'll recall that from 79 till 94 the common camaros couldn't touch the common mustangs. then ford dropped the ball, while chevy picked it up, and ran with it.
Good post!! I like using adjustable upper and lowers and setting pinion angle as opposed to using quad shocks
Sweet!!
i've never seen a fox body with a cracked floor, except mine. its previous owner was a big guy, and he ripped the seat out of the floor.....the dealer had done the same update that they did to the highway patrol cars.
i've never seen a problem with the torque boxes, although i've seen a couple with the upper control arms ripped out of the floor.
they were obviously good, as there are/were many many more of them on the road than most people realize, starting as far back as 1978, and technically speaking, running up till 2004.
i've never seen a problem with the torque boxes, although i've seen a couple with the upper control arms ripped out of the floor.
they were obviously good, as there are/were many many more of them on the road than most people realize, starting as far back as 1978, and technically speaking, running up till 2004.
LoL, that's just Hio grasping at straws to hate on the Fox Body's.
If someone real big (heavy) drove one for extended period of time; it would push one corner of the floor down under the seat. That would cause the "gangsta lean" that was so common with the drivers seat. Several sub frame connectors have the design that has "arms" that bolt to the underside of the seat in that area to reinforce the floor so that you don't get the "gangsta lean".
I've only seen one with the torque boxes ripped out and it was during the mid 90's. The car I saw was a local guys car that ran Southside Machine bars on it and he launched it at 6000 RPM's on nitrous. This particular car at that time was probably one of the most raced cars in our area. I was told that torque boxes being torn out was blamed on the Southsides.
No car is perfect, and when you push one to the point past what it was designed to do; you are going to find it's weakness's.
If someone real big (heavy) drove one for extended period of time; it would push one corner of the floor down under the seat. That would cause the "gangsta lean" that was so common with the drivers seat. Several sub frame connectors have the design that has "arms" that bolt to the underside of the seat in that area to reinforce the floor so that you don't get the "gangsta lean".
I've only seen one with the torque boxes ripped out and it was during the mid 90's. The car I saw was a local guys car that ran Southside Machine bars on it and he launched it at 6000 RPM's on nitrous. This particular car at that time was probably one of the most raced cars in our area. I was told that torque boxes being torn out was blamed on the Southsides.
No car is perfect, and when you push one to the point past what it was designed to do; you are going to find it's weakness's.
01-28-2012 | 01:45 PM
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Maybe you've been looking under some that have really been abused.
I see the floor being weak as probably the biggest problem; like I said I haven't seen that many with the torque boxes torn out of them.
Then again most people that I know that race theirs, have the torque boxes welded up before they do any damage to them.
01-28-2012 | 01:48 PM
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LoL, that's just Hio grasping at straws to hate on the Fox Body's.
If someone real big (heavy) drove one for extended period of time; it would push one corner of the floor down under the seat. That would cause the "gangsta lean" that was so common with the drivers seat. Several sub frame connectors have the design that has "arms" that bolt to the underside of the seat in that area to reinforce the floor so that you don't get the "gangsta lean".
I've only seen one with the torque boxes ripped out and it was during the mid 90's. The car I saw was a local guys car that ran Southside Machine bars on it and he launched it at 6000 RPM's on nitrous. This particular car at that time was probably one of the most raced cars in our area. I was told that torque boxes being torn out was blamed on the Southsides.
No car is perfect, and when you push one to the point past what it was designed to do; you are going to find it's weakness's.
If someone real big (heavy) drove one for extended period of time; it would push one corner of the floor down under the seat. That would cause the "gangsta lean" that was so common with the drivers seat. Several sub frame connectors have the design that has "arms" that bolt to the underside of the seat in that area to reinforce the floor so that you don't get the "gangsta lean".
I've only seen one with the torque boxes ripped out and it was during the mid 90's. The car I saw was a local guys car that ran Southside Machine bars on it and he launched it at 6000 RPM's on nitrous. This particular car at that time was probably one of the most raced cars in our area. I was told that torque boxes being torn out was blamed on the Southsides.
No car is perfect, and when you push one to the point past what it was designed to do; you are going to find it's weakness's.
01-28-2012 | 01:50 PM
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Maybe you've been looking under some that have really been abused.
I see the floor being weak as probably the biggest problem; like I said I haven't seen that many with the torque boxes torn out of them.
Then again most people that I know that race theirs, have the torque boxes welded up before they do any damage to them.
I see the floor being weak as probably the biggest problem; like I said I haven't seen that many with the torque boxes torn out of them.
Then again most people that I know that race theirs, have the torque boxes welded up before they do any damage to them.
01-28-2012 | 02:12 PM
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this thing is awesome!!! i just bought a 4door to efi 5 speed swap. mine came factory bucket seat and floor shift. tried to find a wagon but couldnt